I think Lulzec are funny.
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Eh, they're just a bunch of reckless people who don't give a shit who they happen to harm in their "fun". I don't really find taking down websites and releasing personal information funny, even if I don't have to deal with it.
This. They're harvesting lulz from other people's lulz, leaving them without any lulz. Which is the definition of not funny.Jack and Calumon said:
They say they do what they do "for the lulz".
So taking that and seeing how they do pretty much batshit insane stuff and go around acting like a bunch of mental ward escapees, I'd say they are the equivalent of the Joker.
So the question is, who the fuck is Batman?
So taking that and seeing how they do pretty much batshit insane stuff and go around acting like a bunch of mental ward escapees, I'd say they are the equivalent of the Joker.
So the question is, who the fuck is Batman?
Yeah except they aren't JUST informing people they hacked into networks, they're stealing personal information and releasing it on the internet. Not to mention it isn't like they've been ASKED to do this, it's like 'borrowing' someones car without their knowledge, totaling it, and then informing them several days later that you borrowed their car.Smerf said:
I find Lulzsec funny, not because they are releasing personal data about people (that's never funny), but because they are ripping apart networks that have known about their security flaws yet don't give a fuck.
Example: Banks [http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/citibank-hacked/]. Banks do a decent job of online security, most of them anyways, but they forgo future funding to keep your data safe so they can make a web portal you can use on your phone to do mobile banking or other dumb proprietary software. Besides the fact that mobile banking is about the most horrible idea in the world (it's so easy to intercept data from wi-fi hotspots, even using encryption), companies need to learn that SECURITY MATTERS when it comes to personal data, you know, considering customers and investors don't like to do business with a company that keeps getting robbed.
Example: Banks [http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/citibank-hacked/]. Banks do a decent job of online security, most of them anyways, but they forgo future funding to keep your data safe so they can make a web portal you can use on your phone to do mobile banking or other dumb proprietary software. Besides the fact that mobile banking is about the most horrible idea in the world (it's so easy to intercept data from wi-fi hotspots, even using encryption), companies need to learn that SECURITY MATTERS when it comes to personal data, you know, considering customers and investors don't like to do business with a company that keeps getting robbed.
They suck ass because even though they are "sticking it to the man" people who aren't the man will probably get in trouble/fired for their antics.
Yes, things like the NHS incident and the hacking contest with the $10,000 prize were fairly noble, but what's not is basically everything else. I.E. everything where they've hacked into a company's servers/websites and released tens or hundreds of thousands of users' confidential data.
Yes, they are bringing to light the enormous issues America truly does have with cyber security, and for that, I have to give them some credit. But you think they could do it in a way that doesn't put people at serious risk.
Yes, they are bringing to light the enormous issues America truly does have with cyber security, and for that, I have to give them some credit. But you think they could do it in a way that doesn't put people at serious risk.
I think you might change your mind if you read some of their twitter feed. Those 60,000 email addresses they stole a few days ago? They were just random people. That could have easily been you.Funkiest Monkey said:
I think they are way worse than anonymous. Anonymous isn't a group of complete bastards. They only attack when provoked--and they only attack those who threaten their set of clearly stated ideals. Lulzsec? They are attacking anyone and everyone they can. They don't discriminate between those who have made them mad and those who haven't. They're out to ruin as many people as they can, and they don't care how many innocent people they affect along the way. In fact, the more innocents involved the better.
A while back, about a month before Lulzsec brought down the PSN, Anonymous DDOS'd the PSN because of what Sony was doing to Geohot (the guy who cracked the PS3). Soon after they started, however, they stopped the attack. They said that their actions were affecting the customers using the PSN, which was not their intended target. So they stopped and said they would find some other way to attack Sony without affecting their customer base.
Lulzsec is a schoolyard bully on a rampage. They don't have any standards or limits, or hold back on anyone because they don't feel they "deserve" their wrath. Everybody is a target. The whole world is their target, and you might be next. Don't like that? Too bad. With them throwing their ego-driven tantrum all across the Internet, they aren't going to stop until every email account is hacked and posted for all the world to exploit.
It's the CIO's job, and the CIO's job alone, to propose and implement better security measures. They are the ones that need to recognize vulnerabilities, and they are the ones to ask for more money from the CFO and CEO to fix those vulnerabilities. Then they allot that money to the proper people accordingly to purchase the better hardware or write better code.commodore96 said:
tl;dr, the CIO is the only one who'll be getting canned.
yes because Anonymous never does anything nice they never caught a pedophile or went to went to a guy's 90th birthday party sending him cards and giftsFunkiest Monkey said:
the point I'm trying to make is that lulzsec and anonymous are the same they can do good deeds but still be remembered for shit they did (and lulzsec will never lose their reputation) personally I don't really care (still pissed they hacked xbox live though)
Even then the CIO probably has a family to support, and I wouldn't doubt that he/she had a limited budget before people's site started going down and information was stolen. It stops being funny once it has real world consequences.Low Key said:
Wait until you apply for a credit card, student loan or whatever and find your credit to be completely ruined because these assholes got a hold of your social security number and sold it off for the 'lulz'...wonder what tune you'd be singing then.
That said Lulzsec can indeed actually do some good, but at this point they are all on one massive power high and are like the bully who gets away with everything, I.E. they are just pushing the limits to see how far they can get before going over the edge and getting caught. Which is just plain dickish imo.
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While I am fully aware that so far Lulzsec hasn't really released credit card information, Identity theft is still really annoying and having known people who have been victims before I can tell you personally how much it sucks to have to put up with all the crap that can happen with it.
So if you still think it's funny, wait until you're ID gets stolen and your whole life gets screwed over for a few years and then become a lot more challenging for the rest of it.
That said Lulzsec can indeed actually do some good, but at this point they are all on one massive power high and are like the bully who gets away with everything, I.E. they are just pushing the limits to see how far they can get before going over the edge and getting caught. Which is just plain dickish imo.
EDIT:
While I am fully aware that so far Lulzsec hasn't really released credit card information, Identity theft is still really annoying and having known people who have been victims before I can tell you personally how much it sucks to have to put up with all the crap that can happen with it.
So if you still think it's funny, wait until you're ID gets stolen and your whole life gets screwed over for a few years and then become a lot more challenging for the rest of it.
They could be humorous and fantastic, if it wasn't for... well... ALL THE PERSONAL INFO THEY RELEASE.
Lulzsec are nothing but a bunch of worthless, degrading and evil criminals and the last time I checked crime isn't funny, especially something as series as identity theft, which is precisely what they're doing.
Fuck Lulzsec I can't wait for them to rot in jail and I have complete confidence that moment will come, it's just a matter of time.
Fuck Lulzsec I can't wait for them to rot in jail and I have complete confidence that moment will come, it's just a matter of time.
They hacked the CIA and the FBI. They released people's personal information on several occasions. They're dicks, and if they keep making themselves a nuisance, they will be found and prosecuted. Bad as Anonymous is, at least they know to keep a low profile sometimes, to keep from eroding ALL of the public's good will. Fuck Lulzsec.