IBM Breakthrough Exponentially Expands Data Storage

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SpAc3man

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They still had to cool everything down to a fraction above 0K to get it to work. They have said that to be practical from a manufacturing point of view they would have to use around 150 atoms per bit rather than 12.

Still an awesome leap forward in storage technology.
 

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cookyy2k said:
The problem with shrinking transistors any further is quantum tunneling. Any smaller and the tunnelling current basically fries them.
True, though we'll learn how to build transistors on the quantum scale long before we get scalable quantum computers.

It might involve a radical redesign of the semiconductor junctions we use now, for example some researchers have proposed building classical cellular automata with quantum dots:

http://nd.edu/~qcahome/

The bits are stored as confined electrons, and computations are done through the bits interacting electrostatically.

cookyy2k said:
As for this new advance the theory is great and all but the cost will be huge, they may be available in 10 or so years but affordable? STMs are not cheap pieces of equipment to buy, maintain and use.
Agreed, the real innovation would be a fast method for reading and writing these kinds of ultra dense atomic memories. Parallel to the discussion about building bigger processors, achieving a huge storage capacity is as simple as keeping 100 1TB drives, the real breakthrough would be a 1 TB drive with the kind of access times we are used to seeing in RAM.
 

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viranimus said:
Really? Cause in 2002.. I had a hard drive with 20gb on it.(closer to 18 but.. meh) and that was for the time pretty common. Sure that wasnt like 15 or 20 years ago that you had 850 mb?
It wasn't exactly new, but I got it for free at the end of 2001 and it was my first one :D. A lot of good memories with it. Dune 2, System Shock, Heroes 2, Diablo, Doom, X-Com, Delta Force and just about every DOS and Win95 game I could get my hands on. I sort of miss those times.
 

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Idlemessiah said:
10 years ago if you could fit enough tracks on an mp3 player for the ride to school you were a wizard.
What are you talking about, hard drive based MP3 player back then had like 5GB of storage, that like a thousand 3 minutes track, either your school on the moon or wizard are quite pathetic around where you live. =p
 

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iniudan said:
Idlemessiah said:
What are you talking about, hard drive based MP3 player back then had like 5GB of storage, that like a thousand 3 minutes track, either your school on the moon or wizard are quite pathetic around where you live. =p
I was talking about the naff flash based mp3 players you get from Argos for £15. Even at the age of 11 I could see through Apple's advertising and avoided the overpriced ipods like the plague. Also don't get me started on your grammar.


SpAc3man said:
They still had to cool everything down to a fraction above 0K to get it to work. They have said that to be practical from a manufacturing point of view they would have to use around 150 atoms per bit rather than 12.

Still an awesome leap forward in storage technology.
Do you think that might lead to liquid cooled HDDs as well as CPUs? If so, awesome. I can turn my tower into a mini fridge!
 

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Silas13013 said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
But what will our future be? HDD, or SSD?

What's our priority? Virtually zero load time or not having to uninstall a game, ever again?

DECISIONS! DECISIONS!
Both. Intel cache tech which allows you to have an SSD as your HDD cache. Best of both worlds, massive speed on the programs you use most often and the cheap storage of a HDD
Not to mention that I'd bet once you have such a high density of data on a hard disc, you could potentially read it faster since it's now packed tighter. I have no idea what sort of technical limitations on that may exist now, but still something that may be possible by the time this ever hits the market.

Uncompetative said:
Someone needs to tell IBM Research about this nifty thing called The Cloud.
You realize this is still relevant to cloud computing right? Where do you think data goes when it goes into the cloud? It has to be stored somewhere, it just happens to be on someone elses server farms when you use cloud computing instead of on your own system. Having vastly improved storage capacity greatly benefits such an application as well.
 

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EcoEclipse said:
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And just yesterday I was impressed by a 16gig microsd card...

Seriously, this stuff is awesome.
They already go up to 64GB.

This news basically made my day. I'd absolutely love a 150TB hard drive.
Wut? HOLY SHIT, WHAT?! Why have I not seen this?! Seriously, I'm terrified by that, 64GB on something the size of my fingernail.
 

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redisforever said:
Wut? HOLY SHIT, WHAT?! Why have I not seen this?! Seriously, I'm terrified by that, 64GB on something the size of my fingernail.
And if you want some terror, Sandisk is apparently developing a 128 gig cousin. Though so far I've personally only seen up to 32 gig MicroSD cards.
 

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10 years à 12 months = 120 months

120 months / 18 months as per Moore = 6 2/3 ... times space should double

2^6.66 = 101 ... times the current space it would be by that time

... Still renders Moore's Law valid.
 

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Fawxy said:
And the future comes closer!

You know, some day, our great-grandchildren will smirk at how excited we were to have 1-terabyte hard drives the same way we do when we see ads from the early days of computer tech advertising "revolutionary" 16-megabyte drives.
I certainly was amazed when my father(Who worked in computer repair/support) told me a story of when he was installing a 14MB external drive for one of his customers. The man said "How in the world, am I supposed to fill FOURTEEN Megabytes?"

Especially now when we can do a school project(Or some such) and have it clear 20MB easily.
 

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I love the use of "Doohickey."

DVS BSTrD said:
Atoms: How do they Work? Too bad it's so far away in the future.
Dear Lord, another ICP meme!

I'd hate to see what the escapist reformats itself into to fit on THOSE screens.
I'm more worried that they'll find a colour more annoying than pure white.

pwnzerstick said:
Sooooo... Super Blue Ray?... Purple Ray? idk
Blu Ray is optical storage. We're talking magnets. And how they work.
 

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poiumty said:
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That's wonderful, though I do have some concerns about data integrity when you're getting down to the level of a handful of atoms representing an individual bit...

But I guess that'll just make backups even more important.
It might actually improve data integrity if all you need to modify to alter 1 bit is a handful of atoms as opposed to 100 times that.
That's an interesting thought. But the thing is, if there's only 12 atoms representing one bit, then I get the feeling there's a much higher chance of random chance flipping the bit.

Changing the state of 1 million atoms by accident isn't easy. But it wouldn't take much to change the state of 12...

You only need a few single bit errors to create a huge mess on a computer, so the easier it is to change individual bits, the more of them you'll have to devote to error detection.

Though I guess if you get 100 times the capacity out of it, it may not matter, as long as random errors aren't also 100 times more likely...
 

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gigastar said:
Well if we were to keep using discs the size of current Blu-Ray's and DVD's, how much data could we potentially cram onto one disc?
No difference unfortunately. Although the future will probably be movies on USB thumb-drives, or the equivalent of that. Basically, DVD and Blu-ray are optical. The future of movie or tv distribution will probably be in small hard-disks. Like the current USB sticks and SD cards. Just, bloody, huge.
 

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YES, I NEED MORE MEMORY

Greg Tito said:
Heinrich admits that mass-production using this technique is still at least 5 to 10 years away.
Damn it

Wy are solid state memory sticks so muc more expensive tan ragile magnetic disks? Pisses me off.
 

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iniudan said:
Zaik said:
Seems like once it gets down that small it would become insanely fragile and need some sort of containment to prevent a bump or a breeze from destroying your data.
Normal hard drive are already like that, a single particle of dust inside the enclosure is enough to scrap it.
How about the gyrobowl?

 

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Idlemessiah said:
Do you think that might lead to liquid cooled HDDs as well as CPUs? If so, awesome. I can turn my tower into a mini fridge!
I will just leave this here. [http://tinyurl.com/7nkhvr7]