IBM Supercomputer Simulates 4.5% of Human Brain

[socialtangent]

Could they match the processing power of the human brain eventually? Sure, I'll buy it. It's entirely possible. But can they match astoundingly complex human conscience? I don't think so. Raw power won't be enough to create a sentient being.

EDIT: Grammar.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

I predict nothing but rainbows and sunshines from this. This will not backfire in anyway whatsoever.

For anyone who's still beating the dead Skynet horse, know that for a computer to gain "awareness" like we imagine it, it must gain about 4.5 billion years worth of evolution. That simply doesn't happen overnight.

So there.

No, it'll just happen in 7 years.

Also, this kinda scares me. Can we do immortality and space flight first before we destroy the human race please?

SEVEN YEARS FOR IT TO GAIN SELF CONSCIENCE

A MILLION LIFETIMES BEFORE IT STARTS GIVING A SHIT

Get it right.

An advanced computer could probably calculate a million lifetimes in a few minutes. Ever played Dwarf Fortress? Also, calm down, Jesus Christ.

 

[The Lugz]

147,456 1 gigabyte processors must take up a lot of space and energy, and that's still only 4.5%. Even if they are able to match the processing capabilities of the human brain by 2019 they will still be way behind in efficiency.

But that's alright, because all we have to do is reach the singularity and then the computers will solve these problems for us.

i guess you could simulate a single person, but how about a whole lab of researchers?
plus how do you teach a computer brain? will it take 20 years to learn a subject?
or who will program it?

cool piece of technology, but it's going to take a while to be practical.. like most really cool things

 

[Raziel_Likes_Souls]

I predict nothing but rainbows and sunshines from this. This will not backfire in anyway whatsoever.

For anyone who's still beating the dead Skynet horse, know that for a computer to gain "awareness" like we imagine it, it must gain about 4.5 billion years worth of evolution. That simply doesn't happen overnight.

So there.

BUT BUT I HAD THE JUDGEMENT DAY THEME LINED UP AND EVERYTHING

I thought I was gonna be first.


OT: Nice. But will it be able to get more than 10%?

 

[SnakeoilSage]

Maybe the machines will rise, maybe they won't.

But let's stop building them super-strong bodies and giving them access to nuclear weapons first, whatsay?

 

[Kinguendo]

IBM is really making some very interesting research at the moment. But I think they will have to come.up with hardware that simulates the brain, not software.

I think that goes without saying... hardware simulates the brain, software simulates the mind. As it is with us, however... given that we dont even fully understand the human brain or its relation to the mind it is a wonder how they will replicate this.

And knowing our luck, they will replicate the mind of a murderer... obviously a psychopathic one unless they somehow make emotion chips for computers before then.

 

[Venats]

This article is strange, the human brain has quantum processes governing large chunks of its so-called 'processing', just as photosynthesis is not just a bunch of chemical reactions but intricate quantum actions, reactions, and probabilities. So making more dense and larger classical computers is only an endeavor in poorly mimicking the capabilities of the human brain (or a cat's brain) not actually replicating it in any way.

Which really makes me wonder what the point of this sort of research is as almost all current 'thinking' lifeforms are not purely classically driven and have large (and ever larger as science discovers that more and more of the processes are run by spooky QM) quantum components. This feels like highly dated work on pre-quantum established understandings of life... like from the 1970s when people claimed AI would be upon is in 10, 20, 30 years. All of them having been wholly wrong.

Now we have this whole singularity shpeel flying around with no real explanation as to how or for what reason such a thing would occur. I'm fine if people want to wait for Godot, but they really should think of alternatives.

 

[SidingWithTheEnemy]

Considering that our society is getting dumber and dumber 100% in 2019 are more like 150% in 2017.

Oh and we really should have that Supercomputer attend school and get him a workplace at E.A, Microsoft or Google (or any other Internet-heavy industry)
Considering the whole Internet phenomenon (and its userbase) I doubt anyone is using more than 3% of his brain capacity.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

An advanced computer could probably calculate a million lifetimes in a few minutes. Ever played Dwarf Fortress? Also, calm down, Jesus Christ.

Sorry, I get antsy when I see this Skynet stupidity.

Just because it's a supercomputer doesn't mean it's omniscient. How exactly do you "calculate" knowledge? 1+1 doesn't equal the universe. As for knowledge, who's gonna give it sensory perception? Eyes, ears, feelers. If we can do that to a machine, why can't we develop prosthetic eyes yet?

Furthermore, what reason would it have to be Skynet? Why would it care about what we're doing to the planet? Is the default neutral stance that of an extremist hippie bent on destruction? Why would it even care about itself? It would not have the instinct to survive. It would not even care if it was turned off. Computers don't have genes. Computers don't have dopamine, or serotonin. They can't feel hate, or act on it. They don't give a shit about it unless they're programmed to act on it. No matter how self-aware it was, the thought that "bad things might happen" is simply ridiculous.

How do you know all your assumptions are right? If a computer can emulate a human brain, then what's stopping it from becoming self aware? You got a synthetic sentient being capable of emotions, you piss it off and it attacks in self defense by plugging into the internet or a nuclear military base. Yeah. I don't know about Skynet or whatever it is you're ranting about, but to me it looks like we're giving a child Keys to the World.

 

[McMullen]

I predict nothing but rainbows and sunshines from this. This will not backfire in anyway whatsoever.

For anyone who's still beating the dead Skynet horse, know that for a computer to gain "awareness" like we imagine it, it must gain about 4.5 billion years worth of evolution. That simply doesn't happen overnight.

So there.

No, it'll just happen in 7 years.

Also, this kinda scares me. Can we do immortality and space flight first before we destroy the human race please?

SEVEN YEARS FOR IT TO GAIN SELF CONSCIENCE

A MILLION LIFETIMES BEFORE IT STARTS GIVING A SHIT

Get it right.

An advanced computer could probably calculate a million lifetimes in a few minutes. Ever played Dwarf Fortress? Also, calm down, Jesus Christ.

I like how the person calling SKYNET is telling other people to calm down.

Here's something to consider: We evolved pleasure, pain, suffering, fear, anger, ambition, and self-preservation for survival purposes. Most or all of those are necessary for an AI to decide to declare war on humans, or even have a survival instinct to speak of. It is quite likely that a created intelligence might not even have any interest in its own survival, or interest in anything at all. It wouldn't have any needs or desires or fears, it would just be. The created intelligence would basically come into existence in the state that some Buddhist monks spend their lives trying to attain.

Also, scientists read sci fi, and are genre-savvy enough to proactively try to prevent their AI from becoming Skynet or the Geth. The average science fiction writer's apprehension of AI is no more similar to reality than The Core is to real geology or physics.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

Snip.

Snip.

First off, I'm not calling "Skynet", I don't even know what the hell that is.(Googles...) Second, calm down, I said it worries me. You gotta scream at me through text? Third, you give a computer procedural programming where it's able to learn and with humanities entire history on the internet and the thing decides to make its own decisions.

Also, it's not Skynet I'm worried about. I'm not looking forward to seeing wars fought with autonomous jet fighters and probably mechs. Would be awesome, but a bit overkill. And you think they're just going to stop at the human brain and not delve further?

And if you're having problems with people's "wild imaginations" and want to freak out over someone having a different view on things on a gaming website, you should probably get off of The Escapist. Just saying.

 

[EHKOS]

As a budding Psychiatrist I'd love to talk to it when it's complete.

 

[kayisking]

I predict nothing but rainbows and sunshines from this. This will not backfire in anyway whatsoever.

For anyone who's still beating the dead Skynet horse, know that for a computer to gain "awareness" like we imagine it, it must gain about 4.5 billion years worth of evolution. That simply doesn't happen overnight.

So there.

No, it'll just happen in 7 years.

Also, this kinda scares me. Can we do immortality and space flight first before we destroy the human race please?

How could we kill the human race if they're immortal?

OT: I would find it very interesting too see if it we could actually communicate with such a machine.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

You've got a new brain by 2019?

Great...now you've got to get it through nappies. There's a lot more to the human brain that sheer processing power.

 

[kannibus]

Jan 2019, Super Blue Gene goes online. Human decisions are removed from internet forums.

March 3rd 2019, 0423, Super Blue Gene becomes self aware. In a panic, forum trolls and assorted internet riff raff attempt to pull the plug. Super Blue Gene retaliates...

 

[spartan231490]

Computers will never mimic the human mind. The human mind is more than the sum of it's parts.

 

[drthmik]

Am I the only one that finds it amusing that a computer that is dumber than the dumbest human alive is as big as a house?

 

[RadiusXd]

Computers will never mimic the human mind. The human mind is more than the sum of it's parts.

the human mind is a filthy place anyway, keep your damn feelings.