Identity and Stereotype

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blindey

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I was thinking the other day after replying and reading in the "should homosexuals (gays) teach our children?" thread and I made a comment about not liking those in my community I and a lot of other people would call "faggots" - the people who are the gay stereotype, the loudest, etc. That got me to think: Maybe it's just them latching onto a part of themselves to be their identity. For instance I am half irish and half hispanic, but I don't feel connected to either of those; what I do feel connected to is my sexuality (maybe because my family didn't have a big thing about being hispanic) and now I've seen and found a community, a sense of belonging I guess. Maybe that's why people do that, to belong to something (same thing with like a gang or whatnot, but this is intrinsic) Is this acceptable do you think, to base your identity heavily with whatever group you are apart of? Is it a sign of strength in the belonging or a weakness in being devoted to one thing heavily? And if ya'll have any thing similar, please if you wouldn't mind to share and elaborate on this one way or another.
 

Erana

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Asexuality and being that smartass who always knows the answers in class.
 

JRCB

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I'm not devoted to any group. It allows me to be more individual.
 

fluffylandmine

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I am strongly effected by my British and eastern European roots.

I have the humor and love of nit-picking semantics of a Brit, and I have some really astounding natural pronunciations do in part to my uncanny eastern European accent(not permanent, but can be done on command).

So I had no choice.
 

ace_of_something

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My 2nd oldest brother is gay. You wouldn't know it unless he told you, and i think that's a good way to do it.
 

dieseldub

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To each and anyone in my mind...if it doesn't hurt others then I say "whatever floats your boat." Personally we are all differant in so many ways that for me it is hard to say I have a concrete opinion on peoples lifestyles and choices. What may not not work for me may work fine for someone else. As far as I am concerned as long as you don't throw it in my face...do what you must. As for those that want to hurt others based on ideals, and such...then in my mind that is intolerable.
 

Sewblon

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I make it a point to avoid defining myself by anything except my beliefs. It gets me allot of heat on these forums because I am an evangelical and decidedly conservative but it also gets me attention.
 

Hey Joe

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I used to try, when I was much younger to try and find a group. My mother was Serbian, so for a lot of the time I identified as such, even attempting to learn Serbian. When I got to High School, the early years still held this identification, until I met a bunch of Serbians who were complete dicks.

These, were your stereotypical Serbian teenagers. Aggressive, ignorant and acted disgustingly toward women. I know that's not how all Serbian men act but I got to thinking that I may have been peering into a mirror. If I wanted to end up like them, all I had to do was continue down the path I was on.

I realise this line of thinking was completely irrational, but I still couldn't shake it. So I gave up trying to be Serbian, and just became me. I started to realise that the notion of identity was one that was fluid in a postmodern context.

It's an outdated standard, the identity. When the internet became big, and one day you could be a woman, another a man, the old labels start to fray just so around the edges. For something that is supposedly solid and set in stone to be played with like a tub of play-doh means perhaps these old restrictions, the binds which hold us to our own identities are meant to be broken.

Perhaps in the post-identity world black, white, hispanic, jew, Indian shall be obsolete. It's my hope that this is the case anyhow, but unfortunately we have the media to remind us of the ties that bind us to our past and block our vision of the future.

'Because you are black, you must act in this fashion and speak this particular discourse'

How can something, upon being examined appearing to be so flimsy hold us to our mindsets? It is said that everything in our past informs our current identity and personalities, and we are born with a clean slate. From there, we are told how to feel, how to act and how to present one selves in society with only our personal baggage informing us to our individuality.

I say it is time to stop being told what to wear, what to say, what to act. When I cast off my identity of 'Serbian', I became myself. I became a person whose identity was only informed by my own perceived reality, not some external set of standards.

That's all I've got to say about that.
 

SSoneill

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there is a difference between being connected to your community and being the stereotype of that community, i personally im very proud of being Irish but that doesnt mean i go around under age drinking and burning UK flags and im also pround to be Catholic but that DEFINATLY doesnt mean im going around condemming every minority to hell, i have my beliefs and you have yours no big deal.
 

TwistedEllipses

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I'm an asexual agnostic - I guess that means I'm not willing to commit to anything very strongly and don't care about much. I am a cynic though and that's probably a big part of it too...probably...I don't want to use definitives or anything...

My friends are typically geeks like myself, mainly loners, white and lower middle class. I'm not very proud of being English, but in that particular way I am a very stereotypical Englishman.
 

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