If Nintendo Made a New 3D Metroid

[Euryalus]

As much as I love Metroid, making sequels suffers from a state I call original flavour works best. The pattern that NES Metroid, SNES Super Metroid, and Gamecube Metroid Prime all followed: start on bird people planet with the pea shooter, proceed through various themed zones finding power ups on the way. While Metroid Prime actually did this it gets a little contrived if you make her somehow lose her powers at the start of each game through some excuse to put Samus in the 'proper' starting state.

My friend and I's explaination for most of Samus's starting over in powerups anytime it's not explicitly stated is that she sells all the weapon upgrades for booze money xD

In all honesty though, that never bothered me that much since provided a reasonable explaination while allowing the metroidvania style gameplay to continue. They could have a game where Samus Starts out fully powered and slowly loses powerups, making it more difficult to proceed. That could be done interestingly I think.

 

[Roxas1359]

Also I'd wet my pants if I heard That a metroid game was being released for the 3DS.

*is playing Metroid Fusion on his 3DS*
Yeah, more please. XD

Seriously though, I still don't get why Nintendo hasn't released the games offered to sell some of the games in the Ambassador program to people yet. I mean, it's obvious that they've been made to work on the 3DS, yet they aren't gonna release them for some strange reason. I mean, charge like $5 or even $10 for something like Minish Cap, Amazing Mirror, or Fusion and then rake in the money.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I think there shouldn't be another Metroid. Honestly where can they possibly take the story from here that won't feel ridiculously contrived? All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it? Oh right you'd have Metroid Prime Hunters and that game was shit.

^^^Plus +100 for not feeding the nostalgia.

Seriously people go after LoZ for repeating its story formula but Metroid is even worse for it. How many times does Samus have to crash land somewhere and lose all of her powers and get them back before people get bored.

Metroid Prime was good but I don't want to see a 4,5,6 of the franchise.

Nostalgia has nothing do with it. I loved the old Metroid games, Super Metroid in particular, but I'm also keenly aware that all good things have to come to an end at some point. Preferably before we get an Other M or Star Trek: Into Darkness.
This is a concept that fanboys/girls cannot comprehend.

 

[VG_Addict]

I believe both Reggie and Iwata have hinted at Retro making a new Metroid.

I don't understand why people think a new Metroid will result help Wii U sales. It is, and has always been, a niche franchise. It doesn't sell anywhere near as well as Mario or Zelda. Same with Star Fox and F-Zero. Does anyone know how much Star Fox 64 3D on the 3DS sold? As for F-Zero, Nintendo themselves have said they have no idea what to do with the series. Sure, they could give it to Retro, but really, how much can you do with a futuristic racing game? It's still going to revolve around racing.

 

[TallanKhan]

All i want from Nintendo (other than a proper controller) is for them to make a Metroid Prime style game (1st person, silent protagonist, mix of puzzle/platform/shooter) but give me a little more freedom in the world, open it up a little, give me some optional areas to explore, some bonus/secret unpgrades to find (not just some collection challenge that unlocks concept art) but something that has an in game benefit. Then they just need to take my money.

 

[Roxas1359]

As for F-Zero, Nintendo themselves have said they have no idea what to do with the series. Sure, they could give it to Retro, but really, how much can you do with a futuristic racing game? It's still going to revolve around racing.

And that's all it really needs to be, just give new tracks, maybe some new vehicles, and that's it. You don't have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to racing games at all, so I don't get why Nintendo thinks they need to. Hell, just contract SEGA again or contract Sumo Digital to make the game, with Nintendo publishing it. SEGA, even in their console days made some really good racing games, and after they went third-party Nintendo contracted them to make F-Zero GX on the GameCube as well as published F-Zero AX in arcades and the game was amazing in how it looked and how it played. Heck, if Sega doesn't want to do it, then let Sumo Digital give it a try, as they made Allstars Racing Transformed and my friends and I had a blast with it. Just sitting on it and saying "we don't know what to do" for a racing game is silly.

Relying on just Mario and Zelda for things is just as bad as how Sega relies on Sonic to sell their things. Not everyone likes Mario or Zelda games, and the fact that Bayonetta 2 is exclusive to the Wii U shows that Nintendo doesn't mind niche games, as the first Bayonetta is also a niche game.

 

[VG_Addict]

As for F-Zero, Nintendo themselves have said they have no idea what to do with the series. Sure, they could give it to Retro, but really, how much can you do with a futuristic racing game? It's still going to revolve around racing.

And that's all it really needs to be, just give new tracks, maybe some new vehicles, and that's it. You don't have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to racing games at all, so I don't get why Nintendo thinks they need to. Hell, just contract SEGA again or contract Sumo Digital to make the game, with Nintendo publishing it. SEGA, even in their console days made some really good racing games, and after they went third-party Nintendo contracted them to make F-Zero GX on the GameCube as well as published F-Zero AX in arcades and the game was amazing in how it looked and how it played. Heck, if Sega doesn't want to do it, then let Sumo Digital give it a try, as they made Allstars Racing Transformed and my friends and I had a blast with it. Just sitting on it and saying "we don't know what to do" for a racing game is silly.

Relying on just Mario and Zelda for things is just as bad as how Sega relies on Sonic to sell their things. Not everyone likes Mario or Zelda games, and the fact that Bayonetta 2 is exclusive to the Wii U shows that Nintendo doesn't mind niche games, as the first Bayonetta is also a niche game.

What about X? Would that also be a niche game?

While we're on the topic of making new games instead of Mario and Zelda, I think Next Level Games would be a good fit for Startropics.

 

[Roxas1359]

What about X? Would that also be a niche game?

While we're on the topic of making new games instead of Mario and Zelda, I think Next Level Games would be a good fit for Startropics.

Eh, it's hard to say because of how Monolith Soft is nowadays. I mean the Xenosaga and Xenogears sold pretty well, so they weren't considered niche, but things like Xenoblade are hard to judge because of the fact that GameStop has the exclusive rights to distribution of that game in the United States, so those who only preordered the game got it. Note also that it wasn't really advertised as well, so sales wise I guess it could be considered niche, but I think it probably would have sold better if it wasn't exclusive to GameStop and wasn't limited in print. When it comes to X it depends on when and if they decide to localize it outside of Japan, because right now we only know it's coming out in 2014, and we don't know if it'll be released in a timely fashion outside of Japan. It'd be dumb if Nintendo weren't to localize it quickly since quite a few people were buying a Wii U for X, so I don't have too much worry on that.

 

[Mr.Squishy]

What do you mean "If"?
You know they're gonna at some point.

 

[WhiteFangofWhoa]

All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it?

Spoiler: Spoilers for Fusion

The Federation is cloning Metroids and someone else already mentioned that Samus is technically part Metroid now. I suppose that would be a good excuse for her to develop some new Metroid-related abilities in a game set after Fusion like energy draining, flight, or lightning like the Gamma Metroids use.

Problem is this means you would probably have to fight against the entire galactic government whose army mainly consists of brave space marines only following orders. Samus is not that dark a heroine.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

I think there shouldn't be another Metroid. Honestly where can they possibly take the story from here that won't feel ridiculously contrived? All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it? Oh right you'd have Metroid Prime Hunters and that game was shit.

^^^Plus +100 for not feeding the nostalgia.

Seriously people go after LoZ for repeating its story formula but Metroid is even worse for it. How many times does Samus have to crash land somewhere and lose all of her powers and get them back before people get bored.

Metroid Prime was good but I don't want to see a 4,5,6 of the franchise.

Nostalgia has nothing do with it. I loved the old Metroid games, Super Metroid in particular, but I'm also keenly aware that all good things have to come to an end at some point. Preferably before we get an Other M or Star Trek: Into Darkness.
This is a concept that fanboys/girls cannot comprehend.

I was more pointing out that nostalgia is pretty much the reason the fanatics want to see the game ground into the dust and ignore any legitimate criticisms or gripes.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I think there shouldn't be another Metroid. Honestly where can they possibly take the story from here that won't feel ridiculously contrived? All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it? Oh right you'd have Metroid Prime Hunters and that game was shit.

^^^Plus +100 for not feeding the nostalgia.

Seriously people go after LoZ for repeating its story formula but Metroid is even worse for it. How many times does Samus have to crash land somewhere and lose all of her powers and get them back before people get bored.

Metroid Prime was good but I don't want to see a 4,5,6 of the franchise.

Nostalgia has nothing do with it. I loved the old Metroid games, Super Metroid in particular, but I'm also keenly aware that all good things have to come to an end at some point. Preferably before we get an Other M or Star Trek: Into Darkness.
This is a concept that fanboys/girls cannot comprehend.

I was more pointing out that nostalgia is pretty much the reason the fanatics want to see the game ground into the dust and ignore any legitimate criticisms or gripes.

Oh right. And it's also the reason they'd want to see this (and every other) franchise run into the ground as indeed it has.

After the last failure of a game that was Other M how do you think Nintendo should proceed with the series in General. In regards to 3D gameplay?

To this day, I think it's plainly unfair to call Other M a failure.

Jesus Christ, the only bad part about it was Samus' monologue. The rest of the game was great. The gameplay and combat was exceptionally good.

Oh no, there were many more problems than just Samus' monologue. There was Samus' Daddy issues, Adam's "heroic sacrifice," the whole theme of motherhood which was shoved down the audience's throat and didn't make much sense, the whole unresolved murder mystery sub-plot, the idiotic power-up authorization thing, Samus' freakout scene, and so on.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

After the last failure of a game that was Other M how do you think Nintendo should proceed with the series in General. In regards to 3D gameplay?

To this day, I think it's plainly unfair to call Other M a failure.

Jesus Christ, the only bad part about it was Samus' monologue. The rest of the game was great. The gameplay and combat was exceptionally good.

Oh no, there were many more problems than just Samus' monologue. There was Samus' Daddy issues, Adam's "heroic sacrifice," the whole theme of motherhood which was shoved down the audience's throat and didn't make much sense, the whole unresolved murder mystery sub-plot, the idiotic power-up authorization thing, Samus' freakout scene, and so on.

So you can't think up one problem with the gameplay?

You're calling a gameplay driven game a failure despite the gameplay being amazing.

Really... There are two main elements to a game. Story and Gameplay. In some games, the story is key for its success (E.g. Telltale's Walking Dead, Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls, Mass Effect), but in others, the gameplay is the only vital part, and the story can be pretty much flushed down the drain. (E.g. Mark of the Ninja, Super Mario, Rayman, Legend of Zelda, OTHER M).

Don't call the game a failure if you can't actually find any real flaw with it.

You can't say that Other M was not story driven as the story was shoved down our throats from the moment you hit "New Game." Also I didn't say it was a failure, although I certainly condiser it a disaster, I was merely calling you out for saying it's only flaw was Samus' monologue. Also I could name a few flaws with the gameplay too, firstly the first person missile thing didn't work very well during boss fights and the lack of health and ammo drops made the journey from save room to save room a serious test of one's patience and blood pressure.