If this is true... Then... Wow...

[SushiJaguar]

Hahahahah neoGAF insiders. And you guys believe it without a shred of proof. Oh ho, I am tickled pink.

 

[Timmey]

Doubt it's true, but sure would be interesting if it was. To be honest these rumors don't even need to be made up, Microsoft is good enough at creating bad PR itself, just take a look at the fact they have pulled out of their post E3 press conference, i think that speaks volumes more than anything else could.

 

[RicoADF]

Maybe it's the remnants of politics class coming through, but I'd like to think that Microsoft goes with what they want to achieve and what is the best route to achieve those results. This would be an incredible waste of money for very little gain no matter what, especially at a time when every penny counts.

Customers will find out if a game is available for their preferred console just by asking. Even if the game looks so beautiful and realistic it turns a rock to tears on the Xbox One, if people rather get the PS4, and it's on the PS4, they will get the game for the PS4.

And those publishers that would do this would possibly cut off a number of potential buyers. Hypothetically (PLEASEPLEASEGODNOPLEASE), I want Dragon Age 3 enough to break my "wait until the price drops" rule, but if it only came out on the Xbox One, that's one less buyer EA/Bioware gets. Who would limit possible money flow by presenting at an Xbox conference when they also made it for the PS4/WiiU?

It just sounds like such a dumb move moneywise.

Oh I agree completely, just saying it's not impossible. It would however be a dumb moves for any publisher that affiliated with XBone. There's literally nothing to gain by siding with the one your customers hate so badly....

 

[Rariow]

Besides all the problems the thread's pointing out, I simply don't see how this'd matter even if it went through. Core gamers wouldn't care what version's being showcased because they read this kind of stuff on the internet, people who are less invented in gaming wouldn't care because they don't watch events like E3. The only thing this could affect is retailers being aware of the product, but I'd imagine publishers's just inform them once the time to stock the shelves has come.

 

[CleverCover]

Oh I agree completely, just saying it's not impossible. It would however be a dumb moves for any publisher that affiliated with XBone. There's literally nothing to gain by siding with the one your customers hate so badly....

If this is true, which the percentage is on par with rain on a sunny day, but hey, I guess stupider things have happened by a company in the name of moniez, I'm eating an edible panty.

....I tried hats and those are hard to swallow....

 

[bug_of_war]

EA will probably do it, because that's just a match made in heaven. But, of course, they will backtrack when the usual fan backlash hits them. I would instruct them to keep the money anyway and tell Microsoft to shove it.

I think EA wouldn't do it simply because they like to have their name everywhere, but hey, only time will tell. An besides, they HAVE to say what titles their game will be on, so either way there is no way that PS4 will not be seen in the distance or mentioned, otherwise it's just a loss of money.

That is of course if this is actually true. Remember all the, "WE HAVE A REALLY TRUSTED PERSON INSIDE" articles that said crap about the next playstation and xbox, most of what they reported turned out to be bullshit, so I'm gonna remain sceptical on this one.

 

[Fox12]

This could happen... but the potential blow back would be staggering. The only people watching E3 are hard core gamers, and they are already furious at Microsoft. If word got out, and if this is true then it already has, then the press would crucify them. Sony would come out as the good guy and bathe in the good press. Casual gamers are barely aware of E3, and won't be paying attention to what games are being listed there. I think Microsoft will likely pull back on this and deny it if it's true, and ignore it if it's not. I can't see them winning with this.

 

[Happiness Assassin]

Bull. Shit. Microsoft doesn't have that kind of power in the games industry and they never will. You can come back to me when you have sources more credible than "some guy on the internet".

 

[Ironside]

This seems to be pretty stupid if true - the Sony consoles always have billions of exclusives (unlike Microsoft) and the PS4 is no different, so surely they wouldn't be particularly bothered if all the cross platform games did at e3 was just not play the game on the ps4.

 

[nevarran]

Ah, "the trusted insiders"... yeah!
What's next, video game paparazzi, chasing devs with bikes?...

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

I have to call fake on this one, all it would take is one person to confirm it and Microsoft will be in more trouble than the world currently has stockpiled.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

It just business.

This... Surely this is just how companies normally react? It's like companies paying sports stars to wear their gear, or food companies paying to have their foods shown in white goods advertising. The only difference is that there are only 2 companies involved. I can't imagine at all that Sony haven't been doing the same from day one, this article was just written by a Sony fan as obvious slander and propaganda.

Welcome to life...

 

[deadish]

If this is true, LOL MS buying their way into a market again, developers buying into this better be careful. It can't be good for their reputation if they are caught.

Possible backlash from Sony is possible too. Sony isn't stupid, they would prioritize their resources for companies that help them - the logical thing to do.

 

[deadish]

It just business.

This... Surely this is just how companies normally react? It's like companies paying sports stars to wear their gear, or food companies paying to have their foods shown in white goods advertising. The only difference is that there are only 2 companies involved. I can't imagine at all that Sony haven't been doing the same from day one, this article was just written by a Sony fan as obvious slander and propaganda.

Welcome to life...

No. The difference is, in advertising it's common knowledge that the celebrities are paid endorsers of said products with the goal to promote and raise awareness of said product.
If this is true, MS and collaborators are doing it on the quiet with deception and misrepresentation of their competitor's product being the goal. Either way, we consumers are the ones being messed with.

Manipluative advertising is unethetical no matter how you cut it - advertising to kids to get to their parent's wallet.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

It just business.

This... Surely this is just how companies normally react? It's like companies paying sports stars to wear their gear, or food companies paying to have their foods shown in white goods advertising. The only difference is that there are only 2 companies involved. I can't imagine at all that Sony haven't been doing the same from day one, this article was just written by a Sony fan as obvious slander and propaganda.

Welcome to life...

No. The difference is, in advertising it's common knowledge that the celebrities are paid endorsers of said products with the goal to promote and raise awareness of said product.
If this is true, MS and collaborators are doing it on the quiet with deception and misrepresentation of their competitor's product being the goal. Either way, we consumers are the ones being messed with.

Manipluative advertising is unethetical no matter how you cut it - advertising to kids to get to their parent's wallet.

Surely it's common knowledge for this too? When I see David Beckham wearing an Addidas hat I say 'oh, he must have been paid by Adidas.' But when I see a game being displayed or shown on a particular console I think 'oh, they must have been paid by that consoles manufacturer.' Noone has ever told me I just presume...

Surely it's a non issue, right? How is it unethical? A company paying to get their product seen... how is that different to product placement anywhere else? How is that manipulative?

 

[veloper]

I heard this rumor that Sony is paying for these rumors.

Source please.

Good one.
It does sound a little too far fetched this time and too often we just love the excuse to get angry at something.

I won't dismiss all rumour out of hand, but there needs to more to it.
So on the one hand the early rumours on XBO and DRM did turn out to be true, but on the other hand, the DRM scheme makes diabolical sense and the sources then were more reliable.

 

[Vareoth]

I'll stay skeptical about this simply because this seems like a pretty dumb move which is even beyond Microsoft's usual stupidity.

I would also like a better source than NeoGAF.

 

[Toxic Sniper]

True story: A NeoGAF insider told me his friend in the games industry said that Half LIfe 3 would be spoiled at E3. It will also be a Sony exclusive because this is a NeoGAF rumor.

 

[Jack Nief]

What I really found interesting was this particular post. I wouldn't have even found it until I jumped around randomly. Basically it sums up the Xbox One reveal and fiasco thus far.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61470097&postcount=2641

Wow.

 

[deadish]

Surely it's common knowledge for this too? When I see David Beckham wearing an Addidas hat I say 'oh, he must have been paid by Adidas.' But when I see a game being displayed or shown on a particular console I think 'oh, they must have been paid by that consoles manufacturer.' Noone has ever told me I just presume...

Surely it's a non issue, right? How is it unethical? A company paying to get their product seen... how is that different to product placement anywhere else? How is that manipulative?

The "official" reason for advertising is to increase awareness of your product - people can't buy it if they don't know about it.

When it get's manipulative ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv3qPM8BLdE

well, less just say it become quite the grey area.

While society tolerates manipulative advertisements. Pushing it too far can earn the companies a PR black eye - e.g. advertising to easily influenced young children; banned in some countries.

What MS is rumoured to be doing however, more or less goes into deception territory. To my knowledge, usage of misleading or false statements in an advertisement is illegal in just about every country. While what MS is doing here isn't strictly advertising, hence it's legal, the aims of deception are the same.

That said, I doubt this would happen now that it's circulating the rumour mill. People will be watching developers/publishers like hawks with this rumour fresh in their minds. No developer/publisher will be stupid enough to risk it.