IGN's Top 10
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1.why does everyone think IGN is so bad? I mean, sure, their not great, but people here treat them like they're the freaking Antichrist. just give them respect for what the are: a clock for when games come out. they will tell you "X games comes out in Y weeks".
2. that is not a correct list. it needs different games for one and the ones that should stay need different places
2. that is not a correct list. it needs different games for one and the ones that should stay need different places
I would agree, but you had a total asshat way of doing it. I have no idea of what Shadow of collosese is about. Half life was okay and all, but hell no for number one. WOW? seriously dude. Community doesn't make a game good. Yes, GTA3 should have been higher. And Uncharted 2 must be putting money somewhere to get that high. Where the hell is CoD4? That game pretty much revolutioized FPS's for the past three years.
I think the list is pretty good, though I'd take uncharted 2 off it.
Step 2: add experience and unlockables.
Step 3: somehow get hailed as the best fps game ever.
I guess I should also say that I had a hell of a good time with CoD4, but I don't think it was a revolution as much as it was an evolution.
Step 1: take CoD2.Tdc2182 said:
Step 2: add experience and unlockables.
Step 3: somehow get hailed as the best fps game ever.
I guess I should also say that I had a hell of a good time with CoD4, but I don't think it was a revolution as much as it was an evolution.
Hold on for a sec...
GO HALF-LIFE!
Ahem, you do realize this list was just a collection of opinions by the IGN staff. I mean, they aren't different from us as reviewers. We all have our favorites and hates. Example, I love Half-Life and despise Halo.
GO HALF-LIFE!
Ahem, you do realize this list was just a collection of opinions by the IGN staff. I mean, they aren't different from us as reviewers. We all have our favorites and hates. Example, I love Half-Life and despise Halo.
Exactly. I looked up reviews for 2 games, both JRPGs. And there were both reviewed by the same guy [forgot his name]. They were only ridiculed and never were any of the good points ever brought up. It's like this guys hates JRPGs so he'll just review them all bad, which pisses me off.SpireOfFire said:
Every game I get interested in I look up reviews and IGN just posts them as "Complete Shit" basically. The "super-cool stuff" like "Mass Effect 2" and all other god-awful cliche FPS and popular games get so great of ratings.
10. I haven't played Uncharted 2, and I doubt it deserves that spot. From what I can tell it's the Avatar of gaming: visual spectacle but no real substance.HollywoodH17 said:
9. Battlefield 2 was better.
8. I'm probably the only person who thinks this, but Okami was SO meh. Great graphics and art style, sure, but the gameplay for me was nothing special. Perhaps I haven't given it enough of a try.
7. Didn't like it very much. But then again I hate western RPG's so it might just be me.
6. Yeah, fuck that.
5. Galaxy is awesome. It was the great sequel to Mario 64 that Sunshine wasn't.
4. I personally don't give a shit about GTA games, or any sandbox games for that matter.
3. Never played KoTOR, but I'm sure it's deserving of that spot due to the near universal praise for it.
2. Shadow is a great game and deserves a spot on this list for sure.
1. Good game? Yes. Game of the decade? Hell no.
Overall I'm quite disappointed with this list. Where was Bioshock? Where was Portal? Where was WoW? (not that I've played it, but its effect cannot be ignored.) I was happy to see that no Halos or Call of Dutys made the cut though.
But Counterstrike? Really?
I can totally see where you are coming from here. My expectations for FPS games makes it difficult for me to enjoy Half Life 2, which as you say, is a game that is a little different but based on the same concept.Sentox6 said:Yes, there is the subtle implication that Half-Life 2 is better than those other games (which is my thought on the matter, but to each their own). What I am trying to communicate is that HL2 isn't way down the ladder from the rest of those shooters. I understand if someone likes Bioshock or F.E.A.R. more. HL2, however, is not definitively worse than that list. They all fit very snugly within the same archetype, so I consider it invalid to say one is horribly bad. Slightly inferior, maybe, but that's not what I'm arguing against.Solid Snake2053 said:
Consider, that around release, competition was essentially DooM3 and Far Cry. The integration of competent physics was fairly groundbreaking at the time. The sense of pacing is still excellent. I personally didn't have any real issues with the short distances you had to travel; I found the occasional sense of a largely deserted wasteland supported the story and atmosphere a lot better that turning it into a non-stop Hollywood shooting gallery.
For the record: F.E.A.R. was a decidedly average shooter for me. It amounted to a generic FPS (with bullet time) attempting and absolutely failing to be scary. Whether it scares you or not, of course, is best example of subjectivity so far.
I notice you didn't bother trying to support Halo against HL2 on that list
Edit: there is one big reason why I like IGN more than most here. They didn't pander to the fanboys and make Joker #1 in their list of best comic book villains.
I just do not feel Half-Life 2 should have beat out the games that it was competing against, and if it is on IGN's list, I do not think it should be No. 1.
And as for F.E.A.R., I enjoy the mix of action and horror quite a bit (Resident Evil games and Silent Hill games rank in some of my favorite games of all time). And the difficulty of the firefights and the A.I.'s coordination really did sell that for me. It will always have a special place in my heart. And my nightmares...
Halo was a game I did not play until much later. I owned a PS2 not an XBox, so when Halo came on the scene, I was totally playing MGS2 and MGS3 and any other PS2 game (mostly RPG's). So it wasn't until last year that I began playing it and by then, I had already played other FPS games that intrigued me more. It's a good game, and hella fun to play with others...just not something I rank high.
It is an obvious point, but I suppose if a game doesn't meet someone's expectations, they are not going to enjoy it. And post vigorously against it when they see if being talked about
I can agree with people who might find the gameplay of Hl2 boring (I don't because I am constantly rushing, fighting, backhopping or during narrative, climbing objects and making piles of physics props.
BUT SAYING THE STORY IS LAME?
OH MY GAWD. Hl2 has one of the BEST stories of ALL TIME.
It's the HL2 UNIVERSE that makes it awesome. All the civilians that you can talk to who are being oppressed by the combine overlords. And then the odd characters you meet along the way, Father Grigory... Laslo's friend from the sandtraps that says "he has something to do"... the mysterious figure of Gman.
The whole universe is full of these figures. And best of all the story telling method used means you don't have to have played Hl1 to play through Hl2 and understand what is going on.
You don't get anything at the start, and all the characters just play you down the garden path and you learn what is going on by just looking around, and not having cut scenes shoved down your throat.
It is a brilliant game, it's pace is significantly slower than a lot of todays games, but it doesn't change the fact it is a brilliant piece of story telling.
My favorite part is when people say the vehicles have the control of a brick. lawl, it only lacks in control when you put it in turbo. And the airboat? Are you telling me you've driven an airboat before? And it handled better than that?
I don't think you guys know how to drive hahaha.
BUT SAYING THE STORY IS LAME?
OH MY GAWD. Hl2 has one of the BEST stories of ALL TIME.
It's the HL2 UNIVERSE that makes it awesome. All the civilians that you can talk to who are being oppressed by the combine overlords. And then the odd characters you meet along the way, Father Grigory... Laslo's friend from the sandtraps that says "he has something to do"... the mysterious figure of Gman.
The whole universe is full of these figures. And best of all the story telling method used means you don't have to have played Hl1 to play through Hl2 and understand what is going on.
You don't get anything at the start, and all the characters just play you down the garden path and you learn what is going on by just looking around, and not having cut scenes shoved down your throat.
It is a brilliant game, it's pace is significantly slower than a lot of todays games, but it doesn't change the fact it is a brilliant piece of story telling.
My favorite part is when people say the vehicles have the control of a brick. lawl, it only lacks in control when you put it in turbo. And the airboat? Are you telling me you've driven an airboat before? And it handled better than that?
I don't think you guys know how to drive hahaha.
I'm just as much cynical about IGN as the next guy, but it's their list, not yours or mine. Not that I don't agree with your points, but you just have to remind yourself it's just their opinion.HollywoodH17 said:
I disagree with your WoW point, however. Just because a game is successful doesn't make it an amazing experience. Some people have been playing solitaire on their PCs for years, but it doesn't make it the greatest and most fun game ever.
10. they only used their best rated game from every year, so this is the worst year then. Batman instead maybe though?Anticitizen_Two said:
9. Different year though
8. I can see your point, reasonable opinion.
7. I think it's overrated, but name me a better 08 game
6. Coming back to that
5. Agree
4. The game design and impact of the game is undeniable. Gaming's first 3D visit to Liberty is fantastic.
3. I've played it, and it does deserve this spot.
the last two, I'm gonna leave, as it's already been argued to death on here.
Counterstrike:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
See the bottom.
10 years on, the original CS is the 3rd most played game on Steam, with the Source Iteration being the 2nd most, not far behind MW2 and cumulatively beating it, not to mention that number 12 is also a CS game.
It't the Starcraft of FPS's, and you wouldn't hesitate to put Starcraft in a top 10 games of the previous decade list, now would you?
CS is undeniably one of the best games of the decade, and is still one of the most played of to this day.
Could have been a lot worse tbh. If I were to make a top 10 I would keep GTAIII, Counterstrike, and maybe Battlefield 1942. No Deus Ex though?! Fuck that!
I think this is a very important point that doesn't get addressed as much as it could be. For me, HL2 *felt* groundbreaking when it was first released. Simply put, it was an experience considerably more sophisticated than any game I had played up until that point. Consequently, I'm always going to remember it very favourably. When games like Bioshock came along, while I found them quite enjoyable, they simply didn't push the envelope by as great a margin, at least for me. Thus the impact is not as big.Solid Snake2053 said:I can totally see where you are coming from here. My expectations for FPS games makes it difficult for me to enjoy Half Life 2, which as you say, is a game that is a little different but based on the same concept.
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It is an obvious point, but I suppose if a game doesn't meet someone's expectations, they are not going to enjoy it. And post vigorously against it when they see if being talked about
Conversely, if you're playing some of these more recent headline FPSes, and then go and play HL2 for the first time, it may feel a little like a poor cousin. In my opinion, it still compares favourably, and boasts excellent storytelling, pacing, and environments, but I'm just trying to theorise as to one reason people may not be so impressed by it...
Edit: personally, I think if you're making a 'top # of the decade' list, or any time period really, that choices should be considered in light of their impact on the genre and their place chronologically. It might be fair to argue that Bioshock is better than HL2, but conversely, I think HL2 contributed more to the FPS genre, and was a bigger achievement given the era it was created in.
I can't believe *my favourite game* isn't on there!
Their editorial integrity has been seriously jeopardised!
Their editorial integrity has been seriously jeopardised!