IGN's Top 10

[S.R.S.]

I notice a lack of 'sands of times' on this list.

 

[pirateninj4]

Well apart from IGN sucking the fat corporate one, I'd say it's not all that bad really. Maybe sub in Carmaggedon and you've got a winner!

 

[oppp7]

Um, ya, they started using regenerating health in their games but Halo came up with the idea from what I can remember.

Does the idea of regeneration health really appeal to people? To me, all it does is dumb down games. When you know you can take so many shots before death and then hide in a corner until you're healed, you don't have the same caution you'd have if you could only take a few shots before death because you were reckless earlier. Regenerating health is a cancer in games because it takes any amount of strategy and do it up the bum. Why skillfully try to get a good vantage point and silently take down enemies when you can run up to them guns a blazing, and when you're almost dead just hide for a second until you're all better at 100% again

Video games may not be the most realistic things, but come one, do we REALLY need regenerating health? It's one thing to add shields like the original Halo did and keep the health, but since then, at least half the games have regenerating health, and while good games still end up using it, it's one of the features that make games easier. I'm replying just after playing Dante's Inferno, and just like the kid it copies from class, it uses a health bar. Just playing on normal, I've died a few times just because my health was low going into a fight, and I had to be more taticful with my moves than I would've been with regenerating health...so thanks Halo, thanks for making games even more dumbed down

I think the idea is to make characters more resilient. Otherwise you wouldn't really be able to take down as many enemy units because they always know where you're going out of cover and could automatically shoot you. This is why it works in Gears of War; it gives you a reason to hide behind cover. I agree that it isn't always necessary and it can make the game much easier, but whenever I use strategy in a firefight it's normally so hectic that the strategy falls apart due to the hordes of factors. I think tactics is more for turn based games anyways, and if you're going to yell at shooters for being dumbed down, how do you feel about the Zerg rush BS that RTS has become? I mean, on Warcraft 3 1v1 I feel like I'm the only one trying any kind of strategy.

 

[impirion]

As mentioned before by some people, I am rather disappointed at the lack of Strategy games on the list. I would say Supreme Commander Forged alliance deserves a place in the top 10, as well as possibly Civ 4 and Advance Wars. While the Total War series is awesome and really addictive, as games, they aren't really that good, since the AI in all bar maybe shogun has been sadly not really up to scratch.

Also, I have to say I think Halo should be on there. The argument for CS being on the list has to be the effect it has had, and on that basis, you can't really argue that Halo probably had the biggest effect of all console shooters in the last decade so it should be included.

 

[Solid Snake2053]

When the hell did alomost everyone start hating half life? Oh and please stop arguing over the exact placment of the games on this list I just have to say that its retarded.

I will argue all day long about the list and the place of the games on the list. That's what the topic is about. I just have to say that asking us to stop discussing the topic is retarded.

 

[Woodsey]

And there's no Mafia on the list, which makes it totally worthless

They already have a 3D GTA game on the list Woods =)

Mafia and GTA are very different games, and if I took steroids I would be 'roid-raging at you right now.

 

[Mr.Lucifer]

You guys would bash any top 10 gaming list. Face it, no matter who makes a top game list, people are going to bash it because they are never satsified with their results. I don't get what's so bad about it, it just their opinion.

 

[Mungular]

idk about favs but some game that stood out would be(in no order cause im lazy)

1)Bioshock
2)Half Life 2
3)Resident Evil 4
4)Silent Hill 2
5)Tales Of Symphonia
6)Fallout 3
7)Uncharted 2
8)Call Of Duty 4
9)Golden Sun
10)Grand Theft Auto 3

 

[CheckD3]

You guys would bash any top 10 gaming list. Face it, no matter who makes a top game list, people are going to bash it because they are never satsified with their results. I don't get what's so bad about it, it just their opinion.

People don't always "bash" it as much as, disagree, because they have their own opinions about the game. Someone who loved Game A and had it at number one, may think that another person's favorite Game B was only subpar, not number one material.

As I've said, the closest we'd ever get to a true top-whatever list would take a lot of time and compile data from the studios themselves, fans, sales (copies sold vs. time avaliable for sale), reviews, and a lot of sources all added up overall

 

[Small Waves]

All that matters is that Okami is on there.

 

[Premonition]

HL2 is there instead of WoW, cause WoW only managed to lift off to stardom 2 years after.

If anything The Burning Crusade should be there. It was the turning point from good MMO to Supahstar MMO.

All that and that Rome:Total War was better.

If there had to be a WoW on there it's had to Lich King. Northrend is absolutely amazing and a massive improvement on the disappointingly dull Burning Crusade.

But yeah, IGN, like most sites like it, aren't exactly the most reliable source for Top Ten's, as they chose the items by other standards than how good they are ... I think, anyways. How else do you explain Uncharted 2 being so low and GTA III being on there at all. GTA III was revolutionary, but not as good as San Andreas.

 

[The Night Shade]

they didnt put Deus ex they are crazy thats the best game of the decade
and i think they should put Grim Fandango

 

[Alarien]

Uncharted 1 was one of the most poorly developed, boring and insipid pieces of @#$% I think I have ever played and because of that, I am having a hard time working up the energy to play Uncharted 2, and that's a shame.

I think what deserves to be on this list are games that are innovative, ground-breaking, well developed and, this is the one I think they forget: Fun; which is why Half-Life is a fail as well. Half-Life 1 was an obnoxiously overrated, but well developed by the numbers shooter. It took everything learned from all the Id games and made one that actually played well (but was duller than dirt). Half-Life 2 continued the tradition. Beautiful, polished, and horribly boring. That's sad, especially since Valve are such good developers. Portal, Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 1/2 are all brilliant.

Okami was also brilliantly developed, actually interesting, and a somewhat fun spin on the Legend of Zelda model, and I did enjoy it, but I would't put it up in the top 10.

KOTOR is another great game, but top 10? The story is excellent, but the gameplay itself was a bit lacking due to it's focus on being a console RPG. It lacked the depth of Baldur's Gate 2 (which came out in the last decade... and should be included) and lacked the polish that came to the later Bioware games (obviously Mass Effect and Dragon Age).

Though it pains me to say so (as I wasn't huge fans of either, but they were both well done, fun for what they were, and broke a lot of ground for later games), I agree with both Resident Evil 4 and Grand Theft Auto 3.

I don't think you can have this list without:
Portal
Bioshock
Baldur's Gate 2
Medieval: Total War 1

and I would personally include Left 4 Dead and Rock Band for being the height of co-op play for their genres. They are the best party games of the last 10 years.

It's a shame that we can't throw out a few of the suckier years and take things back just a year or two more. Then we could include Planescape: Torment and Starcraft.

 

[Darktau]

This is a better list than IGN usually give us, but alas, it is still just IGN.

 

[Gauntes]

It's a top 10 list by IGN
which means it's a top 10 list by the staff of IGN
Personally, I'd never think of putting halo series or counter strike in my top 10 and WoW will never even cross my mind but that really shouldn't be a problem since it's my list formulated by my opinion.

PERSONALLY thought Half Life 2 was one of the best games of this decade and thought halo series were just pretty.
Didn't care for GTA series nor Counter Strike but liked Fallout 3

This is why I don't make top 10 list because I can't honestly say one game that I like is superior to the other game that I liked. If I had to make 10 list, they wouldn't be in any specific order and everyone, including me, will be happy

 

[blackjaw1]

I think the idea is to make characters more retarded.

I'm assuming this is what you meant, as regenerating health basically removed all difficulty from FPS games and has been the death knell of the entire genre as it slowly dwindles on its path of games with aforementioned regenerating health, space marines, and other terrible systems that people seem to clamor for because they enjoy playing the video game equivalent of Bad Boys 2.

Halo was bad. It has some of the worst level design in the history of the genre. There's outside level 1, outside level 2, alien space ship, the exact same alien spaceship but with a different room every now and then, stupid inside temple inside of outside level 1, alien space ship 2: the revenge, etc. I'm reminded of a Penny Arcade where they posit that the reason the level design is so bad is a defense system of the Aliens so that an intruder might get bored and leave. Halo became popular because people who drink Natty Light at Frat House Kappa Beta Whateverthefuck could play the game WHILE DRINKING Natty Light, high-fiving each other and listening to Slipknot.

Also the FPS genre has pretty much had no new ideas and has been slowly dying since around the late 90's.

 

[bass5]

I definitely agree with HL2 being 1.

 

[oppp7]

I think the idea is to make characters more retarded.

I'm assuming this is what you meant, as regenerating health basically removed all difficulty from FPS games and has been the death knell of the entire genre as it slowly dwindles on its path of games with aforementioned regenerating health, space marines, and other terrible systems that people seem to clamor for because they enjoy playing the video game equivalent of Bad Boys 2.

Halo was bad. It has some of the worst level design in the history of the genre. There's outside level 1, outside level 2, alien space ship, the exact same alien spaceship but with a different room every now and then, stupid inside temple inside of outside level 1, alien space ship 2: the revenge, etc. I'm reminded of a Penny Arcade where they posit that the reason the level design is so bad is a defense system of the Aliens so that an intruder might get bored and leave. Halo became popular because people who drink Natty Light at Frat House Kappa Beta Whateverthefuck could play the game WHILE DRINKING Natty Light, high-fiving each other and listening to Slipknot.

Also the FPS genre has pretty much had no new ideas and has been slowly dying since around the late 90's.

It hasn't removed all difficulty from games. I don't think Gears of War would be possible without regenerating health, same with Borderlands. They make it so you can heal after a fight to get ready for the next one. If I wanted a challenge where I couldn't just stand still I could easily just play another game. There's plenty of games that have regenerating health and plenty that don't, and neither seems to be dying out any time soon. I agree that standing behind a wall waiting to regenerate is kind of flow breaking (part of the reason I didn't care much for Gears of War), but some games, like I said, wouldn't work without it.
I never played the first Halo. I'm just working off what I've heard about it to argue that it has influenced games more than Half Life 2. Is it better? Probably not, since that's a matter of opinion.
Just because people like multiplayer does not make them less intelligent than everyone else. It just means they like challenging other people and winning. And what's wrong with frat people liking the game? I thought the Escapist had collectively decided that casual gamers were ok.

 

[ItsAPaul]

Wait, wasn't Baldur's Gate 2 released in 2002 or something? Why isn't it on there?

 

[Alarien]

Wait, wasn't Baldur's Gate 2 released in 2002 or something? Why isn't it on there?

Because this list was fail?