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axlryder

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Okay, so perhaps the title is a bit melodramatic, but I've truly done something disgusting in my own eyes. I'm sure many of you will come to consider me a terrible person after reading this (if you don't already).

Anyway, there's a girl I've been dating for a little while now. Without mincing words, I think she's physically unattractive. However, despite this fact, I went into the relationship with full knowledge that I wasn't sexually attracted to this girl. Initially I tried to deceive myself into believing that looks didn't matter to me, and that as long as the relationship was solid I could be happy with anyone. I went so far as to tout the value of this perspective to others (I think maybe even on this site). That self-deceit wore off pretty quickly. I tried to keep it to being "friends" for as long as I could, but eventually we started cuddling and she felt we were something more. I couldn't disagree with her. We were basically dating. She'd never had a boyfriend or been in love before. I knew she fell hard for me, and I also knew that I wasn't going to be interested in furthering the relationship past where it was. So, instead of ending it there, I agreed that we were "in an exclusive relationship" (I'd avoided the word "dating" to no doubt just retain some lack of relational commitment) and I told her that I wanted to see where it went (even though I knew exactly where it would end up, and I was just postponing the inevitable as she fell more in love with me).

My motivations were completely selfish, I wanted a simple, easy relationship with an inexperienced girl. The benefits of having a girlfriend without all the nasty baggage of "dating". At the same time, I didn't want to get wrapped up dating an "unattractive" girl, so I intentionally kept her at arms length, yet strung her along enough to keep the self-serving relationship going. I hadn't really consciously acknowledged that until a little bit ago, but I know I was unconsciously aware of it the entire time.

So, tonight, I've broken it off. After we exchanged secrets about ourselves (many of which I now realize I'd unconsciously crafted in a desperate attempt to scare her off), and I suddenly felt disgusted with how far I'd let things go. I told her that I was a terrible, selfish person, and I knew my behavior would deteriorate as the relationship went on. I then said that I wasn't interested in letting things go further than they had now because I wanted something simple. I eventually coaxed her as gently as possible into agreeing that it was best to end it, telling her that I wanted to end it before I turned into a dick and she got even more hurt. I undoubtedly took this approach in part because I wanted to avoid being honest and telling her that she was ugly and I'm flat out breaking up with her. Instead I opted to say my outward behavior would inevitably get worse in the future to feign a sense of preemptive protection, even though that's total bullshit. She's a smart girl, I don't doubt she pieced together my true motivations. The subtle desperation in her words though. Her implied willingness to put up with any amount of hypothetical physical or emotional abuse just to stay with me. I've broken up with a lot of girls (and had a fair few break up with me). The breaks-ups I've gone through were mostly on far more even terms, but this time I knew I'd done something truly despicable in stringing this girl along.

The cherry on top is that, as I wallow in guilt, I felt so overwhelmed with the selfish need to confess what I've done, and to express the situation in words to get a better handle on it, that I've gone on to an internet forum just so I could vent my feelings. To be fair, I'd tell a friend, but it's 3:18 and everyone is asleep ATM. Oh yeah, and the whip cream is that I did it over skype. Not even video chat. We were fucking IMing. Oh yeah, and I almost created a second account as to avoid sullying the likely non-existent impression most of you have of the persona attached to this one. However, being a lazy fuck, I decided it wasn't worth the effort. Oh, and the last bit of horribleness is that I can't help but think what good writing fodder this whole situation is, and will no doubt utilize eventually. I think the worst thing is that I genuinely do have feelings for this girl on some level, but I consider my own superficiality too large a barrier to overcome in the relationship.

Anyway, there you go. I'm scum. I'm not trying to drum up pity or confirmations of my awfulness (though there will no doubt be plenty of the latter).

tl;dr: I strung along a nice girl I found unattractive so I could be in a casual, non-sexual relationship with her for selfish reasons, despite unconsciously knowing from the get go that she loved me and I didn't want it to go further primarily because I found her unattractive. I then broke up with her over IM like an asshole after the relationship escalated way past the point I should have even let it get to in the first place.

Anyway, to try and maintain the illusion that this is an actual thread, and not just me blubbering about what a piece of shit I am for several paragraphs, what terrible, yet legal, things have you guys done to your significant others?
 

Colour Scientist

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Was she in love with you or infatuated? I'm thinking the latter.

You're not horrible, just pretty inconsiderate.
 

axlryder

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Jul 29, 2011
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Colour-Scientist said:
Was she in love with you or infatuated? I'm thinking the latter.

You're not horrible, just pretty inconsiderate.
We were friends for quite a long time before we "dated" for a few months, and even before "dating" we acted like a couple and her feelings were obvious. Then again, long term infatuation isn't a rare thing, from what I've seen, so that is a possibility that I'd considered. I'm about certain that she would have continued to fall for me if the relationship continued as it did though (of course that's one of the reasons I ended it now).
 

Keoul

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Well at least you did the right thing in the end...
It could have gone worse, way worse, considering the situation you put yourself in you did a relatively good job getting out of it, with minimal hear break and stuff. Just be careful not to get yourself roped into those kind of situations again.

You're not scum, believe me there are far worse individuals in this world, you'd still be considered one of the nice chaps.
 

Zhukov

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Well that wasn't so bad. You could have handled it much worse than you did.

Not quite sure what you were getting out of the relationship. You didn't have feelings for her, you weren't sleeping with her and you didn't want to. So... what?

Doing it over IM though. Yeech. That's pretty gutless.
 

hazabaza1

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You fucked up. Doesn't make you a horrible person.
Just try to remember this nice, yet unattractive girl if you're ever in an unhappy relationship situation with someone you hate and vice-versa.
 

Giftfromme

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lol she might flower into a gorgeous girl later on, so keep her for that. But then she might not forgive you and will then say no to you lol
 

Phasmal

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That is pretty shitty, but at least you stopped it. You can learn from it and so on.
Breaking up over IM isn't great but sometimes stuff just has to happen right then.

I had to break up with my ex over the phone for that reason (plus he lived 40 miles away and I wasn't going that far just to tell him we were over), so yeah I felt bad about that for a bit but it needed to happen.
Sometimes you have to be the bad guy, but it's a learning experience.
 

krazykidd

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That doesn't make you a terrible person . You confessed in the end , which took courage . Plus you didn't cheat on her . So it could have gone much worst . Plus face to face break ups are overrated . You gave it a shot and it didn't work out . Seems pretty normal to me . Most people would 't have even considering dating a smart ugly girl . So you fare way beter than most people .
 

smithy_2045

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This thread makes me feel bad, because I can see the parallels in my own life.

There are two girls "in my life" at the moment.

The first is a girl who randomly met me online, she's good fun to talk to, I'm pretty sure she's fallen for me, and I like her but only as a friend. She's physically unattractive, mostly because she's too fat. We met up once in real life to see a movie and it was one of the most awkward experiences of my life.

The second has a long distance boyfriend, hasn't really shown any signs of being romantically interested in me, but we're pretty good friends. I absolutely adore her, but wouldn't dare make a move because I know I wouldn't be able to live with the guilt of breaking up her current relationship. Plus her current boyfriend seems like a decent bloke from what I know of him, so I can't even justify it by saying it's for her own benefit.

So basically I'm stringing the first girl along, knowing that nothing serious will ever come of it, while secretly hoping the second girl will end her current relationship to be with me. I feel horrible for doing each of these things, and yet I continue to do it because it's easier than being honest in the case of the first girl or moving on in the case of the second.
 

Vanorae

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OhJohnNo said:
We all make mistakes, man. Don't beat yourself up too bad.
This. What you didn't wasn't nice, but it doesn't make you a dreadful person. You've told her what was really going on. The bright side of this that now you've experienced this you won't ever do it again. Don't worry about it too much. You're only human
 

SpectacularWebHead

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I'm fairly sure the MODs will stop me from saying what I think of you.

All I'm allowed to say at this point would be, as Someone who doesn't get much attention from people of the opposite gender or indeed the same, When you do, You need to appreciate what you have instead of trivialising it and fucking someone over in the way that you did.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Don't feel too bad, you've realised you were wrong and done something about it, you didn't intend to cause any harm. At least you've learnt something. I once did something similar, except it wasn't so much that the girl was unattractive, it was that I didn't like her that much in a romantic way and I didn't have the balls to turn her down, I ended up hurting her much more further down the line.

SpectacularWebHead said:
I'm fairly sure the MODs will stop me from saying what I think of you.

All I'm allowed to say at this point would be, as Someone who doesn't get much attention from people of the opposite gender or indeed the same, When you do, You need to appreciate what you have instead of trivialising it and fucking someone over in the way that you did.
I'm not sure you're being entirely fair here. Just because a relationship may be hard to come by doesn't mean that someone should stay in a relationship they're not happy in. That's preposterous.
 

saoirse13

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Your not a terrible person though i may have a somewhat biased opinion as I myself have done something of a similar nature. It's easy to let things progress rather than end it at the start before people get hurt. At the end of the day, though it may have taken some time you admitted hwo you felt and stopped it from going any further. Plus as someone else has already said, it sounds more like she was infatuated with you rather than love but who knows.
There is no point beating yourself up about it. Yes you screwed up, but you eventually ended it and told the girl where she stands.

If i go by your standards, then I should be regarded as an evil selfish whore (to quote my ex). I got into a relationship with a decent guy. Long story short, I dated this guy for 8 months my feelings changed and i only felt as much for him as any other friend. I realised I still had feelings for my ex whom I hadnt been with since in 6 years but had remained close friends with. I ended things with the guy I was dating and about 2 months later got back with my first ex whom I had the feelings for ads we both dmitted to not actually getting over eachother.
Though all this happened the guy i ended it with is now in a relationship with a pretty close friend of mine, but im still known as the *****.

What I'm saying is, you can't stay with someone because it makes them happy. You have to be selfish from time to time otherwise, (yes you'll make other people happy) but you will be unhappy and miserable and no relationship will work that way. Both parties ave to be happy in the relationship. Simole as that.
 

DoomyMcDoom

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axlryder said:
Okay, so perhaps the title is a bit melodramatic, but I've truly done something disgusting in my own eyes. I'm sure many of you will come to consider me a terrible person after reading this (if you don't already).

Anyway, there's a girl I've been dating for a little while now. Without mincing words, I think she's physically unattractive. However, despite this fact, I went into the relationship with full knowledge that I wasn't sexually attracted to this girl. Initially I tried to deceive myself into believing that looks didn't matter to me, and that as long as the relationship was solid I could be happy with anyone. I went so far as to tout the value of this perspective to others (I think maybe even on this site). That self-deceit wore off pretty quickly. I tried to keep it to being "friends" for as long as I could, but eventually we started cuddling and she felt we were something more. I couldn't disagree with her. We were basically dating. She'd never had a boyfriend or been in love before. I knew she fell hard for me, and I also knew that I wasn't going to be interested in furthering the relationship past where it was. So, instead of ending it there, I agreed that we were "in an exclusive relationship" (I'd avoided the word "dating" to no doubt just retain some lack of relational commitment) and I told her that I wanted to see where it went (even though I knew exactly where it would end up, and I was just postponing the inevitable as she fell more in love with me).

My motivations were completely selfish, I wanted a simple, easy relationship with an inexperienced girl. The benefits of having a girlfriend without all the nasty baggage of "dating". At the same time, I didn't want to get wrapped up dating an "unattractive" girl, so I intentionally kept her at arms length, yet strung her along enough to keep the self-serving relationship going. I hadn't really consciously acknowledged that until a little bit ago, but I know I was unconsciously aware of it the entire time.

So, tonight, I've broken it off. After we exchanged secrets about ourselves (many of which I now realize I'd unconsciously crafted in a desperate attempt to scare her off), and I suddenly felt disgusted with how far I'd let things go. I told her that I was a terrible, selfish person, and I knew my behavior would deteriorate as the relationship went on. I then said that I wasn't interested in letting things go further than they had now because I wanted something simple. I eventually coaxed her as gently as possible into agreeing that it was best to end it, telling her that I wanted to end it before I turned into a dick and she got even more hurt. I undoubtedly took this approach in part because I wanted to avoid being honest and telling her that she was ugly and I'm flat out breaking up with her. Instead I opted to say my outward behavior would inevitably get worse in the future to feign a sense of preemptive protection, even though that's total bullshit. She's a smart girl, I don't doubt she pieced together my true motivations. The subtle desperation in her words though. Her implied willingness to put up with any amount of hypothetical physical or emotional abuse just to stay with me. I've broken up with a lot of girls (and had a fair few break up with me). The breaks-ups I've gone through were mostly on far more even terms, but this time I knew I'd done something truly despicable in stringing this girl along.

The cherry on top is that, as I wallow in guilt, I felt so overwhelmed with the selfish need to confess what I've done, and to express the situation in words to get a better handle on it, that I've gone on to an internet forum just so I could vent my feelings. To be fair, I'd tell a friend, but it's 3:18 and everyone is asleep ATM. Oh yeah, and the whip cream is that I did it over skype. Not even video chat. We were fucking IMing. Oh yeah, and I almost created a second account as to avoid sullying the likely non-existent impression most of you have of the persona attached to this one. However, being a lazy fuck, I decided it wasn't worth the effort. Oh, and the last bit of horribleness is that I can't help but think what good writing fodder this whole situation is, and will no doubt utilize eventually. I think the worst thing is that I genuinely do have feelings for this girl on some level, but I consider my own superficiality too large a barrier to overcome in the relationship.

Anyway, there you go. I'm scum. I'm not trying to drum up pity or confirmations of my awfulness (though there will no doubt be plenty of the latter).

tl;dr: I strung along a nice girl I found unattractive so I could be in a casual, non-sexual relationship with her for selfish reasons, despite unconsciously knowing from the get go that she loved me and I didn't want it to go further primarily because I found her unattractive. I then broke up with her over IM like an asshole after the relationship escalated way past the point I should have even let it get to in the first place.

Anyway, to try and maintain the illusion that this is an actual thread, and not just me blubbering about what a piece of shit I am for several paragraphs, what terrible, yet legal, things have you guys done to your significant others?
I won't go into details, as I know some of you might tear me a new one, I've been a selfish insensitive bag of testosterone in the past...

Lemme just say bro, if this makes you feel terrible, be glad, because compared to me, you look like a fucking saint.

No, I am not expressing any form of pride in being a "Bad Boy" or any such shit, hell I'll be paying for my sins 'til I die, and it isn't fun in any way.
I'm just trying to tell you, to just try not to get any worse, be honest with yourself, and with others, and you'll hopefully avoid the road of self indulgant, insecurity driven, completely selfish to the point of intolerant, relational insensitivity.
 

Not Matt

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Well yes, what you did was bad but that doesn't make you a horrible person. who haven't f***ed this up once or twice. sure you could have been more discreet and possibly stopped talking before you quote un quote "became a dick". You should not have called her ugly, and you should at least have done it in person. You?re not a bad guy. You?re just bit dumb. ;)
And the reason I don't think you're an asshole is because you regret what you have done and is admitting to your mistakes.
To use a good old cliché: i am not angry, just disappointed.

what you did was bad, but mistakes are easy to make
 

Rainforce

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you're not horrible, just stupid inconsiderate, also you should probably tell her all this.
and: of course I can come over and help you by kicking you while you're down, if that makes you feel better.
I mean, I'm all for helping people.
otherwise: Have fun with your guilttrip. (and I don't even mean that offensive)
If you think you've done something terrible then feel free to feel bad about it as much as you like,
because it means you're trying to correct the situation somehow, which is what you should want.
 

Floppertje

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If this makes you feel terrible, us it for your mental 'what not to do' list. personally, i don't think it's as terrible as you make it seem. yeah, it was inconsiderate and you could've handled the situation better, but other than that it's really not all that bad.
 

Vegosiux

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You ended a relationship you didn't feel good in? Well that's just despicable. Utterly despicable. I mean, despicable.

Okay, actually no, I'm just foolin'. I think the only thing you really handled badly in the entire thing is the IM break up. It's a tad too impersonal, but that's it. Could have gone way worse. So, like the others said, don't beat yourself up over this, we're only human.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Just try to find a less dicey way to break up should something like this happen again.