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Fanta Grape

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Jack Nicholson is my favourite version of the Joker, being over the top and fun, but often embracing the hilarity of evil. It worked so well because Jack Nicholson is such a versatile role and personified the whole concept of black humour. Heath Ledger on the hand is my second favourite, having a rather contrasting idea but still doing excellent things with it. He took on more of a dark turn and was a lot more sadistic and maniacal, and whether he's insane remains ambiguous. What held it back for me though is not his acting, that was stunning, but rather the character itself being used for modern social commentary; and that's fine but the Joker persona fell into a backdrop while the cringe worthy past and his apathetic attitude towards pain is his focal point.

That having been said, I have never seen an actor who I liked as Batman.

I don't know why but Batman seems to always be written as such a dull person. Granted, I've never read the comics, but Batman never really goes through any further development after his origin story. Why? Well Batman is a very emotionless character because he's perfect. He doesn't let his emotions get the better of him and while he often makes tough decisions, he does what he thinks is right, whether it is or not. And that's where we go wrong...

You see, Spiderman is very flawed. He's often underpowered, he's very insecure and his personal life is constantly getting in the way of his job as a superhero. I don't particularly like spiderman 3 but I loved the first two. So for better or for worse, it makes Toby McGuire's job a lot easier. I mean even Superman has a lot of issues he has to deal with. Tony Stark is overwhelmed about his love life, financial situation and etc.

While Batman is definitely not a bad character, I think it's hard for any actor, even a great one, to be so challenged by what they have to do. It's not a drama where you have to consistently convey your facial expressions and your interactions with other people, he's the God damn Batman (what are you, dense?) The best they can do is show their acting through their body movements and their stance and the way they walk.

You may argue that you get to see the actors shine when they play Bruce Wayne and not the suited hero but Bruce Wayne is a pretty boring person. He's a rich business man. Not much else to him. Sure, he's a reflection of what he's truly like and vice-versa for Batman, but there's not really a lot to say.

And finally, I'd like to get to the discussion part.

1. Who is the best Batman and why?
2. Who would you have play Batman?

If I've said anything which you believe is wrong, feel free to talk about it.

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Not that you wouldn't anyway, after all, we are on the internet... But still.
 

TerribleAssassin

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The best Batman is Adam West. He makes the campy role so much funnier.

I'd like to see Christian Bale do it some more, he does it well.
 

Timotei

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I think it depends on what you are looking for in the Batman. I think Christian Bale was an excellent choice, as was Michael Keaton for his time.

But you can't beat Adam West. Why? Because he's Adam West, that's why.
 

Eagle Est1986

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Adam West.


Ok, well not actually, though he might be the most entertaining.
I'd say Christian Bale in Batman Begins. I thought he had Bruce Wayne down perfectly and quite frankly, Batman is just an action hero when the cowl is up.
 

sketch_zeppelin

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Kevin Conroy, the voice of Batman in most of the animated DC cartoons and movies (and in Arkham Asylume.
 

Verlander

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Batman is just a dull character, even in the books. It always amazes me that he's so popular, I always put it down to having a cool logo, and being the easiest superhero to film on a tight budget, especially in the early days.

For the best, I'd have to say... none of them. They're all pretty dire.

Who would I have as Batman? Someone dark and violent. Batman would work better as a flawed character, a sort of antihero, like Marvels "Moonknight". Maybe Tim Roth? Bit out of the leftfield there...
 

Frequen-Z

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Michael Keaton was the best Batman. But I'd love to see Milo Ventimiglia play him.
 

Casual Shinji

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Yes, Batman is very much a dull character. That's why the (voice)actor that portrays him needs to be very charismatic. Wich Christian Bale just is not.

That moment in The Dark Knight when Aaron Eckhart steps forward and says, "I am the Batman." a light went off in my head: He should've played Batman in these new movies.
 

Simple Bluff

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I think you would've liked me. My parents inform me I was quite the stud in that Batman halloween costume I wore everywhere.
 

TheTemby

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You need an actor who's like the role to play the role...
so lets think here...
Batman is an emotionless, buff bad ass who drives a freaking tank for a car... now I dont know about you, but I think i'm also describing every role VIN DIESEL has been casted.

Take Vin Diesel's best role, Riddick, and compare Riddick to Batman

now you see what im getting at.
 

Abedeus

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sketch_zeppelin said:
Kevin Conroy, the voice of Batman in most of the animated DC cartoons and movies (and in Arkham Asylume.
Oh my God, yes, loved him in the cartoons AND Arkham.

Brb downloading all the new series (especially Unlimited... that's how it's called, right?).
 

Extraintrovert

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Watch Batman: The Animated Series. Then watch Justice League. Then Justice League Unlimited. Then finally Batman Beyond. There you shall find the best portrayals of Batman I have ever and likely will ever witness. He isn't dull or unemotional or anywhere near perfect, he is a fascinating and incredible character with his own problems and triumphs, while still maintaining his strength and composure. The villains are still more interesting than him (I personally consider Mark Hamill to be the best Joker of all time), but that is a compliment for the series, not a negative.
 

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Back in my day, we didn't need molded bodysuits. *taps at chest* Pure...West.

Somedays you just can't get rid of a bomb...
 

Fanta Grape

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Extraintrovert said:
Watch Batman: The Animated Series. Then watch Justice League. Then Justice League Unlimited. Then finally Batman Beyond.
Speaking of great Batman animations, have you seen The Batman.

I saw it on midday Sunday cartoons recently because... well, I don't like people, when I found it. I was seriously expecting to hate it but I found it amazingly well written, well acted and exciting. The dialogue sometimes fell a little short but DAMN, Batman can handle the concept of time travel extremely intelligently.
 

Frybird

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Tied between Kevin Conroy (check out Mask of the Phantasm to see why) and Michael Keaton, who was best selling the overall package of Bruce Wayne as a charming if slightly excentric philantropist rich guy, with the slightest hint of brooding and suffering within, and Batman as a somewhat intimidating Guardian.

Christian Bale was kinda good, but i always saw the Bruce Wayne Persona as suave and well-meaning, not a douchebaggy post-frat-boy that Wayne pretends to be in Nolan's Movies. And his Batman, while clearly the most intimidating, is also a bit too theatrical with the voice and all. Although it also has to be said that i consider Batman Begins the only film where Bruce Wayne is actually an interesting character (would also ring true for The Dark Knight if he wasn't utterly and completely overshadowed by Aaron Eckhart's Harvey Dent
 

Cherry Cola

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Though I agree that he's very uninteresting in the films.

I showed this photo not only because it's badass, but because it tells you that Batman has gone through tons of hardship simply to get where he is now. None of the movies have showed that. They showed his origin, they showed him train a little, then he was Batman. But Batman never stops training. He doesn't just upgrade his toys, he upgrades his body, his mind.

He's also a deep character as Bruce Wayne. He hates having to pretend to be some Playboy, and he's actually very awkward around the subject of love. One might even go so far as to call him insecure. In the films though, I never got the feeling of that. In the Burton ones he's more boring than anything, and in the Nolan films I was never under the impression that his playboy side was a ruse. Bruce was always some playboy, Batman was always some unbeatable hero. They don't show the other sides.