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PurpleRain

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After The Negotiator had said that Valve plan to kill Gordon Freeman, saying that he knew this because he works with valve, as highly unlikely as it is that The Negotiator actually works, or even lives near Valve, I came to realise... what if Valve actually do kill off the Freeman?! I mean it would make sence to end a saga with the protagonist dying to tie up all the loose ends (and so that fans won't scream at them for not adding in a sex scene between you and Alyx) and is an easy and emotional way that many games and movie do. I really hope to god that they don't follow the rest of the sheep and go down this pathway to destruction because firstly: it's been done so many countless times. HL is a series that has always brought something fresh and new to the table and it would ruin their reputation if they did do this. Secondly: Freeman!!! Noooooooooooo!!!
 

Katana314

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EVERYTHING has been done before. Character dies? You're ripping off FFVII. People live in slum-like dystopia? You're ripping off 1984. Cover system? You're ripping off GoW.

Marc Laidlaw, unlike the other writers of stories where you kick the bucket, is a good writer. He can find a way to have it make SENSE. Have him die for something rather than getting killed in an inconclusive "EVERYTHING YOU DID WAS FOR NOTHING." At least now we know for SURE that those "gman is gordon from the future" things are false.

I still hate Penumbra (free version).

So wait...what's this story from The Negotiator?
 

nightmare_gorilla

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i don't know, i think too many movies and games have a fairy tale ending where they don't need one, i can understand killing off a beloved character is a tough call but sometimes it's the only way to start new things. i'm never happy with deaths of characters i truly love but it makes some things more poinient. as for the freeman, from what i understand of half life and have seen here and there it wouldn't be that out of story to have him sacrifice himself in one way or another.

Raziel, at the end of defiance he sacrifices himself and i loved raziel, but the circumstances of it made it ok, raziel was a character designed around sacrifice, the more he "decayed" the closer he came to saving the vampires.

i hear that harry potter survives the ending of the books, i read the first few and it seemed to me that while others were forming friendships harry was forming bonds that he drew strength from and with the evil wizard being born of harry's blood it made sense to me that harry should have died to get rid of him once and for all, kinda like the really stupid neo/smith thing they pulled in the last matrix movie. but as i understand it this did not happen,

sometimes a fairy tale ending blows and you need a good strong blow to the heart.
 

PurpleRain

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Katana314 said:
So wait...what's this story from The Negotiator?
I'm not really sure (so don't quote me on this) but I think he said something along the lines that he worked with valve and they were going to kill off Gordon. I know it's not true but it brought the ending of HL to my attention.

nightmare_gorilla said:
as for the freeman, from what i understand of half life and have seen here and there it wouldn't be that out of story to have him sacrifice himself in one way or another.
That's what I'm worried about. It would make so much sence if he did die saveing the people he loved in some gripping explosive conclusion. I'd rather something that I didn't see comming and this has a neon sign strapped to it with a sirren and whatnot.
 

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He might die in the end in a wholly satisfying way that answers all questions and doesn't leave us angry, but not before there's plenty more games made on him. There's not a single part of that sentence that I didn't like.
 

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Death can be but the beginning. Imagine the gameplay possibilities when not constricted by the mortal coil of existence!

Imagine being projected into the body of Dog for example. That game would rock.
 

PurpleRain

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Hey Joe said:
Death can be but the beginning. Imagine the gameplay possibilities when not constricted by the mortal coil of existence!

Imagine being projected into the body of Dog for example. That game would rock.
The HL series will follow down the road of Jerico? Surely you jest?!
 

MikeyW

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Not sure if they would kill Freeman. The intent was that YOU were Freeman. Hence never seeing or hearing him. Be a rather abrupt ending too. Merrily going about doing Freemany things than BAM! black screen. Roll credits.
 

OneHP

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Maybe death would be preferable to being shoved back in stasis, that is presuming the vorts can't save you and/or Gman isn't dead.
 

Haliwali

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He doesn't work for Valve, I see no reason to believe him. Freeman will last a few more games, though I have no idea how he will die. (Please don't be cheesy, Please don't be cheesy, Please don't be cheesy, Please don't be cheesy)
 

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I'd just like to say I work at Valve also and The Negotiator is a trustworthy source of game-ruining company secrets. I just want to commend him on the size of his balls, being able to stand up to an evil company like us.
It's true we've been trying to take over the world by putting increasingly wimpier protagonists in our games. We hope it will inspire all of you to forgo things that might loosen our stranglehold on the world's neck. Things like buffing up at the gym, wearing bandoleers of ammo like Rambo, practicing chain gun skills, and learning new one liners.

In all seriousness, Purplerain don't you tire of prodding TN? We all know he doesn't work at Valve. People make mistakes, there's no reason to rub his nose in it. Seems a little... petty.
 

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I've enjoyed the first two HL games. Just about all the death there made sense. It'll be interesting to see how the third turns out.

I'd be more worried about Gordon Freeman dying if I actually cared about the character. Now, before all the rotten vegetables get thrown I basically mean that Freeman is kind of a blank slate due to the lack of speech and his being mostly controlled by you. I don't feel any particular attachment to the character, so his death wouldn't be so much of a big deal to me, as long as it makes sense in the story.
 

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Yeah, with all the hero worship that goes on in HL2, he would almost HAVE to die a martyr, right?
Personally, I think it would be all kinds of funny for him to die by crowbar to the head from himself.. like you had to use a temporal rift to travel to Black Mesa and kill everyone there before Gordon could do his pushing duty and thus F! humanity over. Of course, killing himself first may cause all sorts of issues dealing with time, multiple realities, etc...so maybe a final showdown with a really confused still super nerd Gordon Vs. Doom Bringer Turned Savior of Humanity Gordon where in Super Gordon just spatters his past self's head with a crowbar then ceases to exist.
Roll credits..
 

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I dunno... since they killed... oh, hang on

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I'd be surprised if they killed off another main character. Reason... his (nearly named him again, gonna have to be careful here) death was such a kick to the unutterables was precisely because Valve isn't the cheesy kill-off-main-characters-because-your-tears-make-us-giggle type of developer. I reckon Gordon'll make it. Hope. Wouldn't be massively surprised by an ending that requires him to leave behind Earth and his dear old Alyx cos he has to go and save universes cos he's the only one who can do it kinda of bullcrap, though.

Come to think of it, that might make the above a bit of an oxymoron. Depends how cheesy the lone-saviour idea is really.
 

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There is really no way for Valve to likely win ending the Half-Life story. If they have a happy ending it will be perceived a cheap and a intentional Hollywood ending. If they kill Gordon, or Alyx for that manner, they will just be going the old good wins but the hero dies in the end route which I saw as recently as:

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Heavenly Sword this past year. So If he lives, they lose, if he dies they lose and if he lives but nothing changes or its left open for a new game they will still lose. Gamers have become an unbelievable critical group of people.
 

propertyofcobra

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Wow. You're taking anything the raging anti-fanboy Negotiator says seriously?
He was just pissed off that his immature, childish and very extreme Anti-Freeman opinions were being given serious and intelligent responses by normal gamers AND Freeman fans alike, and he lashed out (again, an extremely immature and childish thing to do) with lies and attempts to hurt you.

Good god, don't let him get to you man, he's just some angry whiner.
 

Haliwali

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propertyofcobra said:
Wow. You're taking anything the raging anti-fanboy Negotiator says seriously?
He was just pissed off that his immature, childish and very extreme Anti-Freeman opinions were being given serious and intelligent responses by normal gamers AND Freeman fans alike, and he lashed out (again, an extremely immature and childish thing to do) with lies and attempts to hurt you.

Good god, don't let him get to you man, he's just some angry whiner.
It's not that we're taking him seriously, it's just us speculating on possible endings for the series.
 

nightmare_gorilla

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i actually think it might be funny to make a possible ending, like if you can survive something you can get a different ending but if you die at a certain spot you get a certain ending and thats all she wrote, want to get past it, re-load it ahahahahahaha, or maybe give you the choice to sacrifice yourself or keep fighitng and try to save more lives that way.
 

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Tunaphish6 said:
Honestly, in EP2, I thought they were going to kill off Kliner and the new guy. If you play/watch it again, they talk about not letting you go before they saw you off or something to the equivalent and I seriously thought a missile or something was gunna come down on the building just as you left it.
Why kill off kleiner, he's so cool, and he has a pet headcrab, by the way anyone know where i can buy a pet headcrab