I'm Really Worried About MW3

[Professor Cubbage]

To be honest CoD4 never really had proper stealth. It was just you following a pre set path with hardly any variables to speak of. If there's any "stealth missions" in MW3 it'll probably be like that snow mission in MW2 which was laughably simple.

Play the Thief games or the early Splinter Cell games if you want stealth.

 

[Dissolve]

It's a pity that the single most satisfying and visceral part of Modern Warfare, the sniper mission, is so unrepresentative of the overall qualities of the series. I guess it's a moot point, as I'm bored of almost all fps games at this point. Concerning COD, though, there are simply not enough variations in the formula to make any experience feel fresh or worthwhile.

 

[Jegsimmons]

stealth in COD
excuse me
*walks out*

Spoiler

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

*walks back in*

COD never really had stealth, in COD4 it was fun but after playing it a few times you realize that it's follow a certain pre-made path at this time or it auto detects you and you die.

Thats.... Exactly how stealth is done 99% of the time?

wrong, a good stealth game doesn't have a pre-made path, in a stealth game you can take as many routs as you want to avoid being seen (see assassins creed for example). in COD4 its literally the same path over an over no matter how many times you play it.

You flame CoD and then praise Assasins Creed for its stealth in the same sentence? Wow. Just wow.

Wrong.

referencing is not the same as praising.

 

[Dogstile]

COD never really had stealth, in COD4 it was fun but after playing it a few times you realize that it's follow a certain pre-made path at this time or it auto detects you and you die.

So, thats the thief series, oblivion, vampire rain (which was basically a stealth game, because if they saw you, you were fucked), manhunt, hitman, splinter cell...

Sorry, i'm not seeing your point

Edit:

Oh, I need to actually comment on the thread, silly me.

Yeah, OT: One always makes it in. I think they'll be one in England's train tunnels, they've got an underwater section from the looks of it, so you will probably have to do a stealth section around then.

Personally, I just hope its as gruesome as the neck stabbing in blops. That was nasty and wonderfully unexpected.

 

[SovietSecrets]

Stealth? Don't think it matters as much. The stealth section in CoD 4 was pretty cool and the beginning of MW 2 was all right, but for the most part both of them turned out to be shoot outs in the end. A small stealth section will probably make it in, but nothing too fancy. Either way I don't care.

 

[Woodsey]

stealth in COD
excuse me
*walks out*

Spoiler

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

*walks back in*

COD never really had stealth, in COD4 it was fun but after playing it a few times you realize that it's follow a certain pre-made path at this time or it auto detects you and you die.

Thats.... Exactly how stealth is done 99% of the time?

He's got a point, I don't see any other way of doing it.

... like an actual stealth game would, perhaps?

COD never really had stealth, in COD4 it was fun but after playing it a few times you realize that it's follow a certain pre-made path at this time or it auto detects you and you die.

So, thats the thief series, oblivion, vampire rain (which was basically a stealth game, because if they saw you, you were fucked), manhunt, hitman, splinter cell...

Sorry, i'm not seeing your point

Its a scripted event in CoD, it is not in any of those games.



OT: Beyond a matter of pacing, I can't imagine it mattering that much. You wouldn't believe how much scripted events comprise those games.

 

[badgersprite]

I always did prefer the more covert missions. I never understood in Black Ops how in that one mission where you dressed up as the enemy and snuck through their base how you remained completely undetected that whole time, but when you suddenly enter one area everyone starts shooting at you because suddenly they know you're the enemy?

 

[Jegsimmons]

stealth in COD
excuse me
*walks out*

Spoiler

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

*walks back in*

COD never really had stealth, in COD4 it was fun but after playing it a few times you realize that it's follow a certain pre-made path at this time or it auto detects you and you die.

Thats.... Exactly how stealth is done 99% of the time?

wrong, a good stealth game doesn't have a pre-made path, in a stealth game you can take as many routs as you want to avoid being seen (see assassins creed for example). in COD4 its literally the same path over an over no matter how many times you play it.

You flame CoD and then praise Assasins Creed for its stealth in the same sentence? Wow. Just wow.

Wrong.

referencing is not the same as praising.

Except in this case, it is. You said a good stealth game does not have a pre made path and then said Assasins Creed was like that. That is praising Assasins Creed for good stealth.-

using it as an example is not a praise,(granted i could've used a better example like splinter cell, or other tom clancy games) i don't even like AC, never finished any of the games. But all i'm saying is that other games have better stealth elements. But stealth in COD is like trying to pretend you didn't shoot those 10 cops in GTA4 and thinking you can get away with it without 60 hollow points in you chest.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

The only good stealth mission was the one in CoD4 in Chernobyl. After World at War the series died anyway.

 

[No_Remainders]

Hey escapists, I don't know about you guys but I'm excited for MW3 but I'm worried there won't be any stealth in the game at all, I mean if two continents go to war there won't be many opportunities for stealth in London, New York, Paris or Berlin.


What do you guys think of the Stealth in the CoD Games?

... Stealth...

Can't recall any, unless you call "QUICK! HIDE FROM TEH CHOPPER'S LIGHT!" stealth...

I certainly fucking don't.

The only stealth I actually liked from the CoD series was the Chernobyl mission (the first one) from CoD4.

That was amazing.

 

[DarkChoclate]

Really? Stealth in a COD game? Okay there is stealth actually its just so contrived by bat- shit bonkers explosions and nuclear missile launches every other minute that its like its not there.

 

[-Samurai-]

I stopped worrying about CoD after CoD 4.

As much as I hate to say it, I'm done with CoD, They sold out and are now just getting produced to please their giant fanbase.

But yeah, I honestly think a force stealth section is the least of this games problem.

Wait...what? They sold out by making games for their fans? Isn't that what they're supposed to do? Pleasing your fanbase = revenue, which is the entire point of a business like Activision. Do you think there's even one large developer that doesn't make games to make money? EA, Valve, Bioware, Bethesda, Blizzard, Bungee. They make games for their fans so they can continue to make money.

OT: There will surely be a stealth based level in MW3. During the large battles, there will be a few covert sections to get behind enemy lines and/or stop a missile launch or something. It's pretty much mandatory at this point.

 

[Cat of Doom]

Never understod the hatered for CoD, I find them great fun

 

[MiracleOfSound]

'All Ghillied Up' might not have been stealth in the sense that Splinter cell is, but it was certainly tense and effective at creating that illusion.

 

[senordesol]

I loved the Chernobyl mission in MW1. Having to carefully choose targets and wait in perfect stillness as an APC rumbles past you was great fun. I wouldn't want the whole game to be like that, but it was a great change of pace from the constant noisy firefights before and after.

As it is, I'll probably end up getting MW3...not for full price though.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Oh, there will be plenty of chances to do stealth. Bombed out cities make for great sneaking missions. Look at where Modern Warfare and World at War set their stealth missions. Both ruined cities, both easily the best levels in their respective games.
The entire world may be at war, but all of war does not equal epic fire fights and explosions all around. Even in reality, stealth and snipers play major roles in combat missions.

 

[suitepee7]

personally i found the stealth sections interesting, but not very well done. once you are seen, there is no way to lose the guards, no matter where you run to, which is a pile of wank.

i would like to see another one, perhaps with better AI. they could put a stealth mission in a flashback perhaps? just like cod4

 

[Elsarild]

I stopped worrying about CoD after CoD 4.

As much as I hate to say it, I'm done with CoD, They sold out and are now just getting produced to please their giant fanbase.

But yeah, I honestly think a force stealth section is the least of this games problem.

Wait...what? They sold out by making games for their fans? Isn't that what they're supposed to do? Pleasing your fanbase = revenue, which is the entire point of a business like Activision. Do you think there's even one large developer that doesn't make games to make money? EA, Valve, Bioware, Bethesda, Blizzard, Bungee. They make games for their fans so they can continue to make money.

OT: There will surely be a stealth based level in MW3. During the large battles, there will be a few covert sections to get behind enemy lines and/or stop a missile launch or something. It's pretty much mandatory at this point.

They sold out by not listning to the fans in anyway, people screamed for them to change things but not even an email, their PR relation guy flat out said he hated the cummunity around the launch of Black Ops, and activision fired most of Infinity Ward while refusing to pay them what they where owed for makeing a top selling game.

Yeah, they are totally fine people -.-

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

People care about MW3? Weird, I thought that as soon as we heard about the lack of dedicated servers that was it.

 

[The Wykydtron]

I'm still waiting for a proper Cod stealth mission, since every stealth mission has always gone tits up after a predetermined point Black Ops had the most laughablely simple stealth section i've seen for a while.

To clarify, by proper stealth mission i mean get in, take the flag, get out with no alarms. No stupid ass "oh we're programmed to notice you once you click on that door" bullshit

Ah whatevs i'm not buying MW3 anyway