I'm Sad Now
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(damn capitcha)
Ahem, anyway...
Batman 3 will probably not be as BIG and AMAZING a film as Dark Knight for more than just the Blue-Moon miracles it had going on for it. Lest we forget that it had JOKER! And most anyone who knows who or what Batman is will know of Joker as well. It's a damn shame they are unwilling to find anyone to reprise the role, at the very least, for a cameo. I get why, but even a glimpse would be a nice reminder. Unfortunately, we also killed off 2-Face and Ras and what else can Scarecrow really do at this point? This leaves a void in Gotham for a new villain but the list we have left makes it hard to really put together anything as spectacular as what we've had. There are some good ones, but none that have the same impact as the people we've seen thus far.
Speaking of Batman 3, I'm starting to dislike Nolan a lot more based off this article. So its his fault that we won't get a Batman/Superman crossover? I mean, the DCAU pulled it off perfectly. Joker proposes to kill Superman for Luthor while Batman is tracking him down to Metropolis. It writes itself. And that's probably the easiest way to do it, but there are many other ways too. Is Nolan just against having fun or something? I like the guy's movies, but he seems like a bit of a fun-killer if he won't let something like Batman/Superman exist. We all know that familiar names like that would most likely guarantee a commercial success.
Transformers 3: Say what you will about the first two. I found some moments within both to be somewhat enjoyable. But I saw the trailer for the 3rd and I just didn't like it for a second. Nothing about it made me think it was going to be good in any way at all. Unless we get some dinobots or unicron (both of which are incredibly unlikely) I can say that I'll probably avoid this film like the plague.
And as for Spiderman... WHY? Why did Sony drop Raimi? It wasn't his fault the 3rd installment flopped like it did. Too many people were giving him too many demands all at once. You can't have three completely unrelated villains take place in one movie. Venom himself could have gotten his own movie and it would have been better for it. Plus, Sandman? I'm not sure if he is really a good character to throw against spiderman as a villain. The only one that really made sense was Harry becoming a new goblin because that is both true in the comics and follows the plot the movie was doing anyway. Raimi's series had so much potential to take it so much further but Sony just killed it. If anything, it just further proves my belief that Sony is full of idiots.
Ahem, anyway...
Batman 3 will probably not be as BIG and AMAZING a film as Dark Knight for more than just the Blue-Moon miracles it had going on for it. Lest we forget that it had JOKER! And most anyone who knows who or what Batman is will know of Joker as well. It's a damn shame they are unwilling to find anyone to reprise the role, at the very least, for a cameo. I get why, but even a glimpse would be a nice reminder. Unfortunately, we also killed off 2-Face and Ras and what else can Scarecrow really do at this point? This leaves a void in Gotham for a new villain but the list we have left makes it hard to really put together anything as spectacular as what we've had. There are some good ones, but none that have the same impact as the people we've seen thus far.
Speaking of Batman 3, I'm starting to dislike Nolan a lot more based off this article. So its his fault that we won't get a Batman/Superman crossover? I mean, the DCAU pulled it off perfectly. Joker proposes to kill Superman for Luthor while Batman is tracking him down to Metropolis. It writes itself. And that's probably the easiest way to do it, but there are many other ways too. Is Nolan just against having fun or something? I like the guy's movies, but he seems like a bit of a fun-killer if he won't let something like Batman/Superman exist. We all know that familiar names like that would most likely guarantee a commercial success.
Transformers 3: Say what you will about the first two. I found some moments within both to be somewhat enjoyable. But I saw the trailer for the 3rd and I just didn't like it for a second. Nothing about it made me think it was going to be good in any way at all. Unless we get some dinobots or unicron (both of which are incredibly unlikely) I can say that I'll probably avoid this film like the plague.
And as for Spiderman... WHY? Why did Sony drop Raimi? It wasn't his fault the 3rd installment flopped like it did. Too many people were giving him too many demands all at once. You can't have three completely unrelated villains take place in one movie. Venom himself could have gotten his own movie and it would have been better for it. Plus, Sandman? I'm not sure if he is really a good character to throw against spiderman as a villain. The only one that really made sense was Harry becoming a new goblin because that is both true in the comics and follows the plot the movie was doing anyway. Raimi's series had so much potential to take it so much further but Sony just killed it. If anything, it just further proves my belief that Sony is full of idiots.
I found nothing else to disagree with, except with the MONSTERS bit. It was the only monster movie in years with good pacing of the monster (opposite: Cloverfield), with showing you just enough. The ending when the monsters are finally revealed, it was as awe-inspiring as first seeing the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. Gareth Edwards nailed the mystique of the monsters, and I can't wait for similarly jaw-dropping scenes in GODZILLA.
If anything, everyone else should just see the ending of MONSTERS.
If anything, everyone else should just see the ending of MONSTERS.
Well, the Hobbit is going to suck because it is a prequel and Hollywood hasn't made a good prequel since the second Godfather and Indiana Jones films :'(MovieBob said:
My bad, you're right. The ending is more meaningful with the rest of the movie. Otherwise, out-of-context the scene might just confuse viewers who have no idea that the monsters arepiscian said:
making love
is a direct continuation of the ending
I saw Inception last week for the first time and it left me with one overriding thought; Nolan can do no wrong.
Let me clarify that statement. He got tons of praise for The Dark Knight even though it had little characterisation, a very uneven dialogue to action beat ratio, ropey fight scene editing (obviously didn't learn from the first one) lacked cohesion and too many endings. It was a very entertaining movie with great dialogue but it wasn't the comic book masterpiece that a lot of people made it out to be. Then he made Inception, and what a giant load of self serving pretension that turned out to be. Convoluted beyond belief (no, I understood the plot), completely lacking in any charm or charisma, special effects that, although breathtaking, were as unnecessary as the whole of the 'snowy mountain fortress scene' and finishing off with the most trite end of film cliché it could have.
Then it goes and gets rave revues, so like I said; he can do no wrong.
Judging by the reaction too his 'Matrix for the pretentious', he could phone in the next Batman and people would still be queuing up to kiss his ignoble behind.
Let me clarify that statement. He got tons of praise for The Dark Knight even though it had little characterisation, a very uneven dialogue to action beat ratio, ropey fight scene editing (obviously didn't learn from the first one) lacked cohesion and too many endings. It was a very entertaining movie with great dialogue but it wasn't the comic book masterpiece that a lot of people made it out to be. Then he made Inception, and what a giant load of self serving pretension that turned out to be. Convoluted beyond belief (no, I understood the plot), completely lacking in any charm or charisma, special effects that, although breathtaking, were as unnecessary as the whole of the 'snowy mountain fortress scene' and finishing off with the most trite end of film cliché it could have.
Then it goes and gets rave revues, so like I said; he can do no wrong.
Judging by the reaction too his 'Matrix for the pretentious', he could phone in the next Batman and people would still be queuing up to kiss his ignoble behind.
Im pissed that they got rid of Raimi. Spiderman 1 was well paced, had a decent story, and great acton. Spiderman 2 was very well paced, had a very good story, and great action. Then they totally screw over Raimi on the third one and boot him off the series and get someone who will follow their every command without question. WHAT THE HELL!
I don't understand how he's already thinking that Batman 3 will be a disappointment. We know very little about the project so where is this basis coming from. There are plenty of great sequels to great movies, Spider-man 2, X-2, Hellboy 2. Maybe its because its the third movie, and the third usually sucks. Still I think you should give it a chance rather than shooting it down before you even know what the movie is about.
Bob, I still don't understand why you or anyone else is so damned mad about this Spiderman reboot. Andrew Garfield is a fantastic actor, Emma Stone is lovable in everything she's in, the writer has a couple stinkers along with fucking ZODIAC on his resume, Marc Webb made a delightful romantic comedy(?). Sure, Raimi isn't helming anything anymore, but I never felt like his style or vision was showing on the screen all that much (especially after the first one became a mega-hit).
I'm much more anxious about The Avengers, but that's my personal bias against Joss Whedon showing through for the 818,932th time.
I'm much more anxious about The Avengers, but that's my personal bias against Joss Whedon showing through for the 818,932th time.
That is what we all said when the Phantom Menace came out, don't let your nostalgia cloud your judgement.Neptunus Hirt said:
I'm glad that Raimi got canned by Sony. When hired to do a job in the way that the people with money want you to do it, YOU FUCKING DO IT! You don't sabotage your work and do it half-assed just because you don't like their ideas, you be a professional and do the best job you can.
Then count all the money you got paid for your work and anticipate another job from those folks whom you may think are idiots, but are the idiots with the money.
Raimi deserved to be canned, he did a shitty job with Spidey 3; it was so mangled in my opinion that it HAD to be done on purpose. I hope the reboot does well and that all the Raimi fans will shut the hell up.
Plus, the creepy kid from Pleasantville isn't in it, so already the movie is looking up.
Then count all the money you got paid for your work and anticipate another job from those folks whom you may think are idiots, but are the idiots with the money.
Raimi deserved to be canned, he did a shitty job with Spidey 3; it was so mangled in my opinion that it HAD to be done on purpose. I hope the reboot does well and that all the Raimi fans will shut the hell up.
Plus, the creepy kid from Pleasantville isn't in it, so already the movie is looking up.
Heath didn't die of a drug overdose. He had multiple doctors who didn't know what the others were giving him. It was the combinations of medications he took, not the amount. At least that's what the news was saying here when it happened.MovieBob said:
Why is it so bad that we don't get a Justice League movie? For starters I can't possibly pair up Superman or the Green Lantern with Nolan's Batman, that would just look silly. The only way to fix that would be rebooting Batman which would be even sillier. And besides, wouldn't that just kind of be a "let's panic-jump on the money wagon" kind of move? Trying to sow together a bunch of movies that were never meant to be sown together. I don't know, I can see a lot of reasons to be happy they aren't doing it.
Look Bob at the end of the day you know what two films that were based off of comics came out this year that you loved? Kick-Ass and Scott Pilgrim. Truth be told I knew a whole lot of peole who had never heard of either of these franchises before the movies, and now you, me, and whole bunch of movie fans loved them; and you know the best part. They came to us. So while I understand that we geeks have alot of dissapointment coming at us, but at the end of the day its the little things like Kick-Ass, Scott Pilgrim, Splice, Moon, and all those other great films that ussually make our top ten lists of the year.