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nightmare_gorilla

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Look if this belongs in one of the umpteen million threads already made I apologize in advance I don't want it to be linked to the arguers. this thread isn't about anyone specifically so much as everyone. Every time one of these controversies boils over it winds up basically turning into a screaming match between the extremes on both sides of the spectrum and I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it all.

Look if you're the type of idiot who would make rape threats to an actual flesh and blood human being man or woman I have no interest in what you want to say and if your someone who thinks gaming is a cesspool of misogyny and meatheads I'm not talking to you either. I'm in favor of everyone being treated the same essentially, yeah our genders have built in differences but on a person by person basis that means exactly fuck all.

I am a gamer. I will never be ashamed to identify as such but right now I'm just tired of listening to both sides tell me what I am. I'm a man, I like boobs and ridiculously sexualized character design, AND I like strong female characters in normal clothes and I like equality. I think everyone who's ever played a game deserves their dream game weather that's big muscle dudes suplexing tiger sharks into volcanos wearing bolo ties or women in comfortable shoes slapping said idiotic muscle dudes or anything in between. That's the wonderful thing about our medium it is such a broad spectrum that there's room for everything, oversexualized characters and really well developed ones and every type of experience in between.

I am a gamer, and I think the majority of you people are like me. I'm tired of being told that gaming culture is toxic and we should ashamed of ourselves. the problem is most of us just get on about our day being normal decent people and that doesn't make a good article. I'm so tired of watching gaming discussions turned into an episode of crossfire where everyone is wrong and they're all assholes for different reasons. it seems like not too long ago when the whole "toxic culture" thing became the buzzword of gaming press they were smart enough to preface it with "this is just a VERY vocal minority" and as time wore on the preface disappeared and now we're all just toxic. Well I'm tired of it. How about in this thread we just share positive stories of how gaming brought us together.

To be clear i'm on neither side here. Treating women like crap for fun is retarded as in you must be mentally damaged to do it. But much like being called gamer, I will never apologize for being a man and enjoying Dead or alive, or rumble roses, or dragon's crown, or for that matter enjoying Metroid, or the walking dead games. i'm looking for some solidarity here, I really believe that 80-90% of gamers are good people because 80-90% of people are good people.

Anybody else just really tired?
 

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and crowd cheers. Right now gaming industry has gone insane. Everyone is at eachothers throats for slightest disagreement. Gaming has lot of problems right now (example disabled people cannot play games even if they wanted to, online multiplayer is filled with toxic atmosphere and list goes on ). And i agree all this fighting is getting tiresome
 

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nightmare_gorilla said:
(...)I am a gamer. I will never be ashamed to identify as such but right now I'm just tired of listening to both sides tell me what I am.(...)
There're probably a lot more sides than two, but the good news is that it's really only you who can decide what you are.

(...)I am a gamer, and I think the majority of you people are like me. I'm tired of being told that gaming culture is toxic and we should ashamed of ourselves.(...)
What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without it just as easily. Baseless accusations can safely be ridiculed; I think the very worst thing we can do is to start taking those seriously.

(...)Treating women like crap for fun is retarded as in you must be mentally damaged to do it.(...)
Not at all. In fact, it's a little unfair to the mentally handicapped to compare them with people who knowingly and deliberately treat others with contempt and abuse. You could say that such toxic behaviour retards or impedes our development as a species, though.

(...)i'm looking for some solidarity here, I really believe that 80-90% of gamers are good people because 80-90% of people are good people.

Anybody else just really tired?
Sure, a lot of the time. I get tired of the disingenuous and insulting behaviour, the pettiness and all the other poison you don't expect from adults, whether it's within or without this particular industry. People just don't know how to talk to each-other. They stunt their communication by refusing to treat one-another with a basic level of respect in conversation. They know all manner of once-fancy, now-hackneyed buzzwords but possess little idea of how to use them and instead fall back on them to prop up an argument that cannot stand alone.

This can all be rectified fairly easily. You just have to look at people a certain way. What's their story? What can they show you? What can they teach you? When you invest more meaning into your relationships with people, you'll find that it'll all really start fixing itself.

So, cheer up! Try not to worry overmuch about something as big as the state of an entire industry. Calm heads will prevail, but look to your own health and happiness for now!
 

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Someone posted this in R&P a while back but I think it sums up the current situation pretty well:


The truth is most gamers aren't rabid misogynists, or crazy SJWs, or whatever the latest stereotypes are. Most of us are just ordinary people trying to get by who also have an opinion on something. It's disappointing in the recent hubbub how so many people on both sides have leapt to assuming the opposition is there for the wrong reasons rather than actually listening to what the calmer people are saying and ignoring the fringe idiots ranting about hug-boxes or insects.
 

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Wait! They have problem with Metroid? SInce when? Do you mean the Other M game?
Also yes, you are right. We need more Pocket Pussies game Threads.
Our sins must be known to like these kind of games!!!!
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Oh, you just said about the sexualized female characters..............I will remove my existence from this Thread.

I have no regrets
 

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nightmare_gorilla said:
Treating women like crap for fun is retarded as in you must be mentally damaged to do it.
It's less about genetic pre-conditioning and more about a combination of (bad) parental upbringing and (backward) cultural baggage.