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[ImmortalDrifter]

It's standard "horror and loss" anti-war propaganda. In the same way that games like homefront are right-wing fap games. An antithesis really.

It's pretty sad if you need "propaganda" to tell you that war is bad, mmmkay? Even the most hardcore gun nuts don't come out of a war spreading stories about how it was glorious. Not unless they've lost a part of their humanity and are liable to snap and kill somebody from PTSD one day soon. In the simplest terms: war is hell. That's not leftist or rightist, it's just fact.

I'm perfectly aware war is hell, and I never said it wasn't, mmmkay? This is completely focuses on the innocents (who ran into the battlefield instead of the forest). There is no context to the war, there is no good or evil, nothing is at stake, nothing has context or meaning. It's just "war is so awful, look at how much were suffering from being retarded and running into gunfire. Soldiers are only there to kill you. War can accomplish absolutely nothing and has no purpose." to invoke an undeserved feeling of sadness.

 

[deckai]

Alien ship falls to earth, earthlings gather to kill it, what more setup is needed for a warzone?

The earthlings aren't there to kill the alien, the war is already going on. The alien just gets dropped into the middle of it.

Read the description at the bottom, it makes more sense then.

I kinda disagree... both scenarios make sense, since xenophobia still is a big part/issue of humanity.

On the game, it was a nice little game it's one of these games that entertain you not trough fun but trough drama. I can't judge something like this by numbers like other games, but yes I liked it.

 

[Eldarion]

Alien ship falls to earth, earthlings gather to kill it, what more setup is needed for a warzone?

The earthlings aren't there to kill the alien, the war is already going on. The alien just gets dropped into the middle of it.

Read the description at the bottom, it makes more sense then.

I kinda disagree... both scenarios make sense, since xenophobia still is a big part/issue of humanity.

On the game, it was a nice little game it's one of these games that entertain you not trough fun but trough drama. I can't judge something like this by numbers like other games, but yes I liked it.

I guess both do make sense.

Oh do we have a game with multiple ways to interpret the message? I say, we have a winner.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

And I think that would be reasonable criticism of a game that's more than a few kilobytes in size and has several hours to lay out a plot. What you're doing here is completely failing to fill in the blanks which the rest of us did in our own way. Maybe the military has come to kill the alien, and the people don't want to see that happen. Or maybe the war is everywhere, and faced with that inevitability, the people follow the alien into the warzone for what protection it can offer. Sometimes bits and pieces are left out of a movie or a piece of art to allow you to come to what conclusions you may. And if you come to no conclusions at all, that may reflect more on you than whatever it is you're viewing.

Filling in the blanks is necessary when the game attempts to make a statement. You could fill it in yourself, but its the writers job to make you give a damn about the characters. You assume that because the game doesn't offer you any kind of detail that it obligates to make your own. "The man killed the dragon that killed his parents" take this as an example. One would directly assume that the man was poor innocent victim, but what if the man was evil? What if the dragon needed his parents to feed his babies? What if the dragon acted on behalf of a higher power? In this game it is the same deal, it isn't bits and pieces are left out, it's, no context is given at any point. At all. By your logic, maybe the people were evil. Maybe the are stupid for going into the war. Maybe the alien deserved to die. Maybe the war has a purpose. It tries to make you feel bad for something with no explanation. Would you feel as bad if you see a random person die, or a person you've known for several years, who gives blood and does 20 hours of charity a week.

And as a side note, Armor games (whose flash games i played frequently during school) are often simply abstract and strange. It's equally possible that everyone on this forum including me have simply been reading too much into this game.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

All of these are distinct possibilities. That said, I think just enough context is given here. The alien lands on earth, and immediately proceeds to protect people it barely knows from harm. That's the entire goal of the game, at least. So I don't think I'd consider it evil, even if the only good thing it ever did was to give its life protecting others.

It's just when I'm not at least given basic information assumptions run wild, and i like think that the family are nazis and the invading force is the soviets/Anglo-American forces lol. But I've played it around 5 times now and i keep coming back to this being a short epic about a selfless retard-protecting alien. Instead of a deep moving story as most people want to believe it is. Although the more i play it, I can't help but think that were taking a short game built on the engine of another armor game whose name i can't remember, but its about burning random people, and making into something it's not.

 

[Eldarion]

All of these are distinct possibilities. That said, I think just enough context is given here. The alien lands on earth, and immediately proceeds to protect people it barely knows from harm. That's the entire goal of the game, at least. So I don't think I'd consider it evil, even if the only good thing it ever did was to give its life protecting others.

It's just when I'm not at least given basic information assumptions run wild, and i like think that the family are nazis and the invading force is the soviets/Anglo-American forces lol. But I've played it around 5 times now and i keep coming back to this being a short epic about a selfless retard-protecting alien. Instead of a deep moving story as most people want to believe it is. Although the more i play it, I can't help but think that were taking a short game built on the engine of another armor game whose name i can't remember, but its about burning random people, and making into something it's not.

It would be kinda hard for the 3 children to be legit nazis, just saying.

 

[demotion1]

I liked it

 

[Trolldor]

*facepalm*

Leftist?
I saw nothing identifiably leftist in it at all.

It's standard "horror and loss" anti-war propaganda. In the same way that games like homefront are right-wing fap games. An antithesis really.

Because the left never use violence, right?

Homefront is a right-wing fap game because it's pandering to ideas of nationalism, not saying war is cool.

Being for or against war has nothing to do with your political wing.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

*facepalm*

Leftist?
I saw nothing identifiably leftist in it at all.

It's standard "horror and loss" anti-war propaganda. In the same way that games like homefront are right-wing fap games. An antithesis really.

Because the left never use violence, right?

Homefront is a right-wing fap game because it's pandering to ideas of nationalism, not saying war is cool.

Being for or against war has nothing to do with your political wing.

I could go in to depth and try to totally bust your balls like I did with that other guy, but frankly I'm tired of arguing about an indie that only the five of us sitting here in this thread and bitching even care about. So good evening to you, sir. I'm going to bed, its fucking 5 a.m.

 

[Trolldor]

*facepalm*

Leftist?
I saw nothing identifiably leftist in it at all.

It's standard "horror and loss" anti-war propaganda. In the same way that games like homefront are right-wing fap games. An antithesis really.

Because the left never use violence, right?

Homefront is a right-wing fap game because it's pandering to ideas of nationalism, not saying war is cool.

Being for or against war has nothing to do with your political wing.

I could go in to depth and try to totally bust your balls like I did with that other guy, but frankly I'm tired of arguing about an indie that only the five of us that sit here in this thread and ***** even care about. So good day to you, sir. I'm going to bed, its fucking 5 a.m.

I don't actually care about it. I was fairly dismissive of the thing. I'm just lolling at your gross mischaracterisation of political wings.
But hey, go ahead and rip in to me if you can.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

I don't actually care about it. I was fairly dismissive of the thing. I'm just lolling at your gross mischaracterisation of political wings.
But hey, go ahead and rip in to me if you can.

In the U.S. where i reside the wings are composed of either econut, socialist retard hippies. Or overbearing, xenophobic, greedy business men. The term left-wing, just aligns with the generally liberal point of view (which views war as a heinous and foul sin which could never be justified). In retrospect hippie would have been better wording, but left-wing fap game sounds so good doesn't it? hahaha

 

[Zhukov]

Yeah... it was pretty cool.

A touch heavy-handed perhaps.