In Defense of American Beer

Horticulture

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I feel that I need to say a little bit in response to certain allegations [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.119310] about the quality of beer from the Land of Freedom/Tasteless International Hegemon/Godless pro-Zionist West, that is to say, the United States.

With beers like Budweiser, Miller, and Busch among the most commonly exported American beers, it's no surprise that our malted beverages have a poor reputation abroad. Though it's unsurprising, I always cringe a little when I hear something like "American beer is terrible, especially in comparison to beer from (European Country with significant Germanic population or Canada)."

It's not that surprising to hear sentiments like that coming from across the pond, but it seems that a lot of people here (or in Canada, where you should be intimidated enough to know better!) take terrible macro-lagers to be representative of the entire beer culture of a nation of 350 million. Anyone who took Labatt to be the pinnacle of Canadian brewing or Beck's to encompass the extensive beer culture of Germany would rightly be regarded as a boor (yes, even here in America)...but no one bats an eye when Budweiser is taken as the be-all and end-all of American brewcraft. This worries me. Just about every state in the Union (even Utah!) has excellent locally, regionally, and nationally distributing breweries that whip up some of the best beer on the planet (disclaimer: I haven't actually tried every on the planet, but I'm working on it!), yet these are largely ignored even by bars here at home, let alone around the world.

There's not much a simple thread can do, but if you're American and love your beer, talk about your favorites so the rest of us can look out for them. If you're from abroad and don't like American beer, have an open mind if you visit. And, of course, if you already know the secret joy of a real American brew, good on you! It always brings me down to see a tourist glance right past the (excellent) craft beers only to settle on a predictable (even boring) Heineken.
 

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Horticulture said:
...or in Canada, where you should be intimidated enough to know better!...
What are you implying here? I am not trying to start a battle of the nationalities here, but Canadians are supposed to be intimidated by Americans?
 

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If you ever see it, try a bottle of Rolling Rock. It is the smoothest beer I have had to date.
 

Gadzooks

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Didn't the Canadians destroy the white house that one time... ? They may seem friendly, but it's a trick to catch you off guard.

I've only ever tried the awful beers of america, because they simply don't ship the good ones here.
 

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Advertising my friend advertising, all these excellent independant brewries around the USA don't have the money to compete with Anheiser-Busch or Coors. So naturally it would seem they are the only beer entity present in the States. I do like American beer if I'm trying to get wasted though (which is the only time I like it), trying to pound some dark stout or amber ale for the purpose of getting drunk leaves one feeling bloated and gross.

But actually Jameson whiskey FTW!
 

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Americans do drink budewieser, and, god forbid, light beer. I don't think (sensible) people claim all American beer is shit, but the American beer (and I use the term loosly) we are exposed to is utter shit.

I'm Australian, so you're damn right I'm going to be judgemental of your beers (Australian beers are regularly given awards in international competitions). We have mass produced, decent beer (Coopers, James squire etc), and our low end generic crap (cartlon draught, VB, fosters etc) tend to at least be drinkable.
 

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ChocoCake said:
Horticulture said:
...or in Canada, where you should be intimidated enough to know better!...
What are you implying here? I am not trying to start a battle of the nationalities here, but Canadians are supposed to be intimidated by Americans?
Just poking fun at stereotypes. It's all in good sprits.

Leorex said:
all beer sucks. sorry to inform you.
Thanks for sharing.
 

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Homicidal Hobbes said:
Didn't the Canadians destroy the white house that one time... ? They may seem friendly, but it's a trick to catch you off guard.
Ah yes, the Canadians attacked in 1812 and they'll do it again in 2012! On the 200th aniversary of the beginning of the War of 1812, the Canadians will start another war that will destroy all life on Earth by late December of 2012.
 

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Birras said:
Homicidal Hobbes said:
Didn't the Canadians destroy the white house that one time... ? They may seem friendly, but it's a trick to catch you off guard.
Ah yes, the Canadians attacked in 1812 and they'll do it again in 2012! On the 200th aniversary of the beginning of the War of 1812, the Canadians will start another war that will destroy all life on Earth by late December of 2012.
Bring some Unibroue when you do!
 

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ChocoCake said:
Horticulture said:
...or in Canada, where you should be intimidated enough to know better!...
What are you implying here? I am not trying to start a battle of the nationalities here, but Canadians are supposed to be intimidated by Americans?
We have these.



A lot of them. Now start liking our cheap pilsner beer or we mobilize against you Canadians and all of Canadia.


On a much more serious note, the exported beers are able to be shipped out to other countries in mass quantities because it cuts corners and uses fewer high-quality ingredients. As with all things, there's a lot of mediocre stuff and a bit of good stuff, and by that logic, the beer we make in stupendously huge amounts is going to be severely mediocre.

Local brews are almost always going to be better, because they produce less as a result of using better ingredients, and as a result of producing less, they cannot export it everywhere, the same way "mainstream" American beers have. That's why people from other countries are always complaining about their local brews being better than our beer: because they rarely get a taste of our good stuff, the same way we'll rarely get a taste of theirs.

That said, our local brews are fantastic, and I encourage you to try them when you get the chance.
 

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Squoze said:
If you ever see it, try a bottle of Rolling Rock. It is the smoothest beer I have had to date.
In all honesty, I have to agree.
I personally am I huge fan of micro-breweries. If anyone has the chance to get to St. Catharines, Ontario (Silicon Knights HQ) go to a place called the merchant ale house and try their hockey ale. Num num

TO the OP: I have been drinking for a while, and I know good quality beers. I find American beers to be too light for my tastes, and there are nowhere near enough ales in a regular rotation (Lagers bug me). Mind you, I've only had the chance to visit more northern states, so perhaps further south there's better stuff available. I've always had a taste for more potent brews I suppose (Guiness, Kilkenny and Smithwicks ... pronounced Smith-ecks and if I'm having a non-beer day, Strongbow) and Bud/Miller/Pabst, could never do that for me.

And c'mon. Canadians aren't intimidated. If shite hits the fan and the forces mass in, we'll just ship all our beer and dope south to where the invading army is ... war over :D
 

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Birras said:
Homicidal Hobbes said:
Didn't the Canadians destroy the white house that one time... ? They may seem friendly, but it's a trick to catch you off guard.
Ah yes, the Canadians attacked in 1812 and they'll do it again in 2012! On the 200th aniversary of the beginning of the War of 1812, the Canadians will start another war that will destroy all life on Earth by late December of 2012.
Ahah! That's the most sensible cause I've heard of the 2012 doomsday to date.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. Kudos to you Canada, you had us all convinced.
 

Skeleon

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Well, we can only base our opinion on what we know.
I know lots of beers from Germany (obviously), but also Belgium, Poland and a wide variety of other European countries. I only know a few from the US, though.
It's not like I could hop over there at any given point to go check out the local breweries.
That's the way it is with everything, though, not just beer. The most prominent stuff gets to become globally known, regardless of quality.
 

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Well, thankfully we have Sam Adams now and that is one mass produced beer that doesnt suck here in the States.

But yes your point is valid, there are many microbrews available that are far superior to the pisswater put out by the major brewers here in the states.

Unfortunately for many here in the states and abroad not all microbrews are available everywhere.

I should know, I went on a beer tour of the US and canada. I should probably clarify that the beer tour was just me on a 3 month break form work driving around to each state and territory in canada trying local beers. I was thinking of doing it agian and actually bloggin about it(there were no blogs when I went the first time) but then the economy took a dump so that was that.

Yup, I am that into beer.
 

Crash486

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There are some absolutely excellent American beers out there.

Samuel Adams for example is constantly winning best brew awards at international beer contests around the world. I buy plenty of exports, make no mistake, but sam adams is right up there with the rest of them. There are also lots of smaller breweries in America that aren't as widely known but they're excellent too.

Does budweiser even count as american beer anymore since its now owned by a swedish company?

Here are a few of my favorite American Beers. Look for them next time you're shopping.

North Cost Brewing, California
Red Seal Ale
Old Rasputin's Imperial Stout

Dogfish Head, Maryland
120 Minute IPA
Brown Ale
Raison De'tre
Also keep an eye out for their seasonal Pumpkin Ale (the best pumpkin ale on the market)

Tommy Knockers, Colorado
Maple Nut Brown Ale

Samuel Adams, Massachusetts
...any beer by samuel adams
Chocolate Bock (one of the best beers I've ever had.)
Cranberry Lambic
Old Fezziwig's Ale
Cherry Wheat

Indian Wells, California
Lobotomy Bock

I live in texas, so I know these are pretty widely available.
 

Ultrajoe

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If you stop trying to tell us that Fosters is Australian, and as an Australian I assure you it is not, then we have a deal.
 

Horticulture

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Ultrajoe said:
If you stop trying to tell us that Fosters is Australian, and as an Australian I assure you it is not, then we have a deal.
Deal. What should I drink if I ever find my way over there?