Inception, Opinions?

[EcHoFiiVe]

You are wrong. That movie is awesome. It's enjoyable, and very different, and the acting is spot-on. You aren't missing anything, you just need to watch it again and like it. If you want a more in-depth explanation of why it's awesome, check out MovieBob's review.

We're done here.

I'm assuming this is satirical, as I don't believe anybody in a sane mindset would suggest other people can't have different opinions.

Well, it was sort of... intentionally extreme. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some people's opinions are dumb. Of course, that could just be the Nolan fanboy in me rearing his ugly, irritating head.

Truth told, if he had given a good reason for disliking the movie, and if he didn't sound like he disliked it just because it's "cool and edgy" to dislike things that are of high quality, I would have responded more charitably. As it is, though, I am inclined to think that he just made an Inception-bashing thread just to get a lot of people to post. Fortunately, it doesn't seem like it's working.

You're completely missing the point. My original post didn't give that impression, and I even said in a second one that I was posting for other opinions. And if I really wanted to make an Inception bashing thread, don't you think I would be bashing every aspect of it? I'm not, I'm really only criticizing the story line. I reread my first post and I didn't come off as disliking the movie purely because its mainstream. And you calling my opinion dumb is based on perspective. You obviously liked the movie, so your defending it, which means you won't agree with my opinion. I'm fine with you defending your opinion, but insulting me with no good backing is uncalled for, especially in something as trivial as an internet thread posting my opinions on a movie.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

You are wrong. That movie is awesome. It's enjoyable, and very different, and the acting is spot-on. You aren't missing anything, you just need to watch it again and like it. If you want a more in-depth explanation of why it's awesome, check out MovieBob's review.

We're done here.

I'm assuming this is satirical, as I don't believe anybody in a sane mindset would suggest other people can't have different opinions.

Well, it was sort of... intentionally extreme. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some people's opinions are dumb. Of course, that could just be the Nolan fanboy in me rearing his ugly, irritating head.

Truth told, if he had given a good reason for disliking the movie, and if he didn't sound like he disliked it just because it's "cool and edgy" to dislike things that are of high quality, I would have responded more charitably. As it is, though, I am inclined to think that he just made an Inception-bashing thread just to get a lot of people to post. Fortunately, it doesn't seem like it's working.

You're completely missing the point. My original post didn't give that impression, and I even said in a second one that I was posting for other opinions. And if I really wanted to make an Inception bashing thread, don't you think I would be bashing every aspect of it? I'm not, I'm really only criticizing the story line. I reread my first post and I didn't come off as disliking the movie purely because its mainstream. And you calling my opinion dumb is based on perspective. You obviously liked the movie, so your defending it, which means you won't agree with my opinion. I'm fine with you defending your opinion, but insulting me with no good backing is uncalled for, especially in something as trivial as an internet thread posting my opinions on a movie.

It just seems to me that if all you wanted was the Escapist community's opinions on the movie, you could have just asked for them straight up, without a wall of text that seemed to be trying to reduce the plot of a good movie to a bunch of stupid-sounding incomplete sentences. Someone early on in the thread mentioned that you can make any movie sound bad if you just summarize it that way.

It seemed just a tad too intentionally inflammatory for a simple "discussion", is all I'm saying. Although, I will give you the fact that I was getting too riled up over it.

Wow. My very first heated internet argument over something completely meaningless. This may be one of the nerdiest points of my entire life. *sniff* I'm so happy...

 

[bob1052]

It was an original story with great acting that was executed perfectly. Most of the people who talk it up as the biggest mindf@!% ever are hyping it up in the way that the general public (yea, those people) will receive it, but that doesn't mean that because it isn't like that, it is bad. If you go into it expecting it to match the way the hype describes it 100% then it won't meet your expectations.

My favorite thing about Inception is that it doesn't take the suffer the same handling of its technology as most sci-fis, as in it didn't spend half the movie explaining the inner workings of the dream machine but instead just says "this is a world with this machine, now watch".

 

[Marik2]

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Yeah I think the hype ruined it for you.

You get your hopes up when people say "X is a masterpiece" and then you see it and while it is good you just cant let go of the image people gave you of "insert X" thing".

Best thing to enjoy something is dont listen to any hype and be neutral when you see or play something.

 

[chieften]

at the end you see the top spinning, and the guy fails to check if it kept spinning, because he's ecstatic to finally see his children who are sitting in the same spot that they have been for the past few years, presumably cold, smelly, and very afraid, since they apparently have no guardians besides perhaps the wolves in the woods nearby, all the while, the top presumably keeps spinning, meaning DiCaprio is still in a dream yadda yadda yadda.

Actually, you can tell he is not in a dream anymore because when he is in dreams, he is wearing his wedding ring and in reality he doesn't.

 

[KEM10]

You are all wrong, Memento was Nolan's best film.

OT: I want to say that hype killed it. It was a good film but it wasn't anything extraordinary. I truly enjoyed it, but I also heard Nolan and ran to see it before I heard anything else. There were also levels of complexity to it, but nothing more than some intermediate psych students couldn't redo with some time and money.

Overall, good film but there have been better.

 

[Soushi]

Really complex, in fact needlessly so. I enjoyed the weird visuals, and the sotry was okay, but all in all, it can't beat a nice, simple, solid storyline in a beautiful universe (IE: Avatar). To be honest though,the thing i hated the most about the movie were the ones who think that just becasue they watched it and sorta understood it, that that makes them into "hidden meaning' super sleuths, like they are some elitist experts on movies jsut becasue they saw Inception. The people who go around like they are teh upper crust of movie society and can look down thier noses at others becasue "obviously they can't handle a really cinematic experience". District Nine did this same horrible thing to people, thank god that's over with, mostly.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Oh, that's cool, folks.

"No, you're incorrect, Inception is subjectively a very good movie and if you didn't like it, you probably just don't get it."

Okay then. I get it. It's not very good.

It feels like the only reason the theme of this movie is dreaming not because of the quite clever subtext, but because it provides pretty scenery. The dream part is not particularly
engaging, because it's a "dream". So, when people are shooting at each other... yeah, they're not going to die.

So, to impose the false sense of danger, they come up with the Limbo rule. Which is a stupid rule.

This movie is no Dark Knight.

 

[psychic psycho]

It feels like the only reason the theme of this movie is dreaming not because of the quite clever subtext, but because it provides pretty scenery. The dream part is not particularly
engaging, because it's a "dream". So, when people are shooting at each other... yeah, they're not going to die.

So, to impose the false sense of danger, they come up with the Limbo rule. Which is a stupid rule.

I'm gonna have to disagree. I thought the dream setting was integral to one of the points the movie was trying to make. I'll admit when the the limbo rule was brought up it felt pretty tacked on, though I thought it worked alright in the end.

Of course I could be totally off with this analysis...Anyway, from what I gathered the dream setting is a metaphor for a work of fiction, or more specifically a movie. In the film Cobb tries to get Fischer through a series of fabricated events without him knowing it. A director tries to do the same to the audience; he tries to maintain the audiences' suspension of disbelief. When Fischer awakes from his dream he is changed even though what had happened was not real. Ideally, at the of a movie the same should happen to the audience.

A similar thing happens to Cobb as well. Near the end, Cobb no longer regrets that he couldn't grow old with Mal because he realizes he had already done so, even if was spent in limbo. He realizes its foolish to keeping holding on to Mal since the one in his mind was not the real thing. You could say his "suspension of disbelief" was broken since he knew too much about the true Mal and the substitute could never fill role.

So in the end what I got from the movie was that the dream setting was a metaphor for a work of fiction, inception is a director's goal (or perhaps just Nolan's), and a work of fiction can affect people in a very real way.

the top presumably keeps spinning, meaning DiCaprio is still in a dream yadda yadda yadda. Thats basically what I got from the movie. I feel like I'm either missing some huge point that makes this movie great, or everyone I've asked about it is easily impressed. Does anyone agree with me? Does anyone know what I'm missing thats keeping this movie from being great for me?

It's not certain if Cobb is still in a dream. The top slightly falters at the end before the movie cuts off to the credits; so I think it could go either way. I think people are too focused on the ending. Leaving them to think Inception is a movie about questioning reality, though it does have a little bit of that.

I loved Inception because you could just enjoy it as an action/adventure film, since it's pretty subtle and doesn't try to smack you with whatever theme/lesson it's trying to make. However afterward, if care to, you can let things sink in and ponder what the movie was about (kinda like the stuff i said above).

To be honest though,the thing i hated the most about the movie were the ones who think that just becasue they watched it and sorta understood it, that that makes them into "hidden meaning' super sleuths, like they are some elitist experts on movies jsut becasue they saw Inception.

Oh jeez, looking back at what I typed, I hope I don't come across like this. Heck, I'm usually the first to admit that I don't understand something. I'm not even sure what I said about the film make any sense. Nobody I know saw the movie so I didn't have anyone to discuss it with; it just built up and I had to let it out somewhere.

 

[Auron225]

I loved it! I could see the depth to the plot and I loved how it balanced the general mission objective with the personal dilemmas of the characters... well, Dicaprio really but still! The concept was also really cool and the acting was superb =) One of the best films of 2010 in my opinion.

 

[MasterChief892039]

OP - although it's possible that this movie just isn't your thing, your description made it seems like a bunch of stuff was just going over your head. A lot of people suggest watching the movie twice, perhaps you should try that.

 

[Casual Shinji]

It was okay.

It was well directed and well acted (except for Ellen Page) and there were some very interesting ideas. But the actual characters themselves felt cold and hollow just like in every other Chris Nolan movie.

And the whole dream sequence felt a little too rigid and structured for my taste. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Brazil, now those movies had fantastic dream sequences.

 

[Woodsey]

"DiCaprio gets job from the person he just stole from, and neither of them appears to have any sort of problem with that."

He was either teaching him to stop people stealing from his dreams, or he was trying to prove himself to get a job - can't remember which, but he wasn't actually stealing from him.

It looked great, treated it's audience maturely, had great casting, acting and direction, and was complex without being nonsensical.

Alright, so it's not a bloody arthouse film, but this is still a summer blockbuster let's not forget, and it's one with a brain and a sense of maturity.

 

[thylasos]

It was a decent action romp with good CGI, and the by-now traditional ambiguous ending to generate fake hype by causing vast numbers of discussions of people's opinion on it.

 

[No_Remainders]

You are wrong.

This is one of the reasons I disliked "Inception" (apart from Leonardo Di Caprio being a horrible actor).

Everyone who liked Inception LOVED it and wouldn't hear a bad word said about it.

Saying "You are wrong." and not allowing someone to have an opinion? It's called being a fanboy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and my opinion is the movie wasn't all it was hyped up to be and you're very arrogant and you clearly think that your opinions matter more than everyone else's.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

You are wrong.

This is one of the reasons I disliked "Inception" (apart from Leonardo Di Caprio being a horrible actor).

Everyone who liked Inception LOVED it and wouldn't hear a bad word said about it.

Saying "You are wrong." and not allowing someone to have an opinion? It's called being a fanboy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and my opinion is the movie wasn't all it was hyped up to be and you're very arrogant and you clearly think that your opinions matter more than everyone else's.

Hey, you know what's really fun? Reading other posts before you start whining about someone's percieved arrogance. Seriously, it's a blast.

 

[No_Remainders]

You are wrong.

This is one of the reasons I disliked "Inception" (apart from Leonardo Di Caprio being a horrible actor).

Everyone who liked Inception LOVED it and wouldn't hear a bad word said about it.

Saying "You are wrong." and not allowing someone to have an opinion? It's called being a fanboy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and my opinion is the movie wasn't all it was hyped up to be and you're very arrogant and you clearly think that your opinions matter more than everyone else's.

Hey, you know what's really fun? Reading other posts before you start whining about someone's percieved arrogance. Seriously, it's a blast.

I don't see why I should have read any post that wasn't relevant to the one I was replying to. I saw yours first being the most outrageously obnoxious and decided I'd reply to that, and nobody else's. So your attempt at being a smart-ass fails.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

You are wrong.

This is one of the reasons I disliked "Inception" (apart from Leonardo Di Caprio being a horrible actor).

Everyone who liked Inception LOVED it and wouldn't hear a bad word said about it.

Saying "You are wrong." and not allowing someone to have an opinion? It's called being a fanboy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and my opinion is the movie wasn't all it was hyped up to be and you're very arrogant and you clearly think that your opinions matter more than everyone else's.

Hey, you know what's really fun? Reading other posts before you start whining about someone's percieved arrogance. Seriously, it's a blast.

I don't see why I should have read any post that wasn't relevant to the one I was replying to. I saw yours first being the most outrageously obnoxious and decided I'd reply to that, and nobody else's. So your attempt at being a smart-ass fails.

Congratulations. Thanks to your refusal to look at comments in the greater context of the thread, and your insistence on "debating" that commenter when he was clearly trying to brush you off with a flippant, snarky comment, thereby ending a pointless argument before it began and keeping the both of us from looking stupid, you have won at the internet. Enjoy your victory; you've earned it.

And yes, I know that that was a run-on sentence. I am perfectly fine with that. However, I get the sneaking suspicion that you are going to want to try and use my much-too-long sentence as an excuse to try and continue arguing over nothing. Please don't. I will not respond.

 

[HotFezz8]

loved it

 

[Erana]

The acting is good, I'm not saying anything mechanical like that is shoddy, I'm just saying the story line wasn't as captivating as people made it out to be. And I get that they were going for complexity with the whole dream within a dream within a dream, within a completely different person's dream, but it wasn't that like spellbinding to me. I think a way better movie that had the same type of complexity going on was The Prestige. This is just my opinion but The Prestige had a far better story line than Inception, and it's complexities that arguably made it a deeper movie didn't seem forced just for the sake of them being there.

And that's your opinion.
Its like how you probably don't like reading Southern Living Magazine, or don't really appreciate a cute pair of shoes.

Its just not your thing. There's not a problem here. I mean, it is a solid example of a movie these days, but if it didn't didn't float your boat, there doesn't have to be anything wrong.
I personally enjoyed it, but then again, I like the cast and surreal settings. The story did seem to have a bit of JRPG-itis to it in terms of almost ludicrous artificial complexity, though. (Dream in a dream in a dream in a dream with certain rules that arbitrarily apply)

The point for me is that it was worth the money watching in theaters. That's a big factor for me with movies.