Indie RPG Developer Details Why Ubisoft's DRM Will Be Effective

ark123

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If only there was a third option besides buying the game or pirating it. You know, a way to show we're not willing to bend over and take it up the pooper.
Oh wait.
 

Canadamus Prime

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I think this Vogel guy underestimates software pirates and hackers. The only thing this new DRM scheme will be effective in doing is driving away legit customers.
 

Bob_F_It

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While keeping the format of the saves entirely backstage is pretty effective, a hefty but effective state save should be a simple solution.
Ubisoft also need to wake up and realise that less piracy on this occasion might not translate into more sales.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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Or, people will just not buy it. I'll wager they will lose more sales from this DRM than they would from pirates.
 

jasoncyrus

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Number 2 is the easiest of all.

What mr goodman is forgetting is that adobe do almost exactly the same thing.

you get your serial, you then phone up adobe to get ANOTHER serial to go with it.

Piraes still had it cracked within a week, WITH full keygen.

As many have said constantly, it wont be hard to pirate it.

Example: You tell it it's connected to the internet, you tell it you're legit then you tell it that the "remote server" is a folder on your HDD. DRM foiled in 3 moves.

It's not just ubisoft who are under estimating pirates, it the escapist writers too who think this will actually work.

008Zulu said:
Or, people will just not buy it. I'll wager they will lose more sales from this DRM than they would from pirates.
I'm sure as hell not buying *anything* that requires a constant connection. I'm moving to somewhere thats only got dial up ffs.
 

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008Zulu said:
Or, people will just not buy it. I'll wager they will lose more sales from this DRM than they would from pirates.
And then they'll cite the high numbers of piracy and the lower numbers of Sales. Then Ubisoft will decide to either; try something more ridiculous, or abandon the PC platform.

I'm really not sure what they hope to achieve with this.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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Calhoun347 said:
008Zulu said:
Or, people will just not buy it. I'll wager they will lose more sales from this DRM than they would from pirates.
And then they'll cite the high numbers of piracy and the lower numbers of Sales. Then Ubisoft will decide to either; try something more ridiculous, or abandon the PC platform.

I'm really not sure what they hope to achieve with this.
Maybe, I'd like to see a dollar figure on what this little jaunt of theirs will/is/has cost.
 

Ildecia

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PayJ567 said:
They highly underestimate the programming capabilities of "pirates",
yarr harr fiddle deedee beein' a pirate be alright with me! do wha'cha want 'cause a pirate is free! you are a pirate!

/hack
 

Therumancer

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Holy fucking shit.

Or they just edit any drm entries out of the primary exe file. LIKE THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR DECADES.
Actually I think the point is that parts of the game are not stored on your computer or on the disc, so this means you never have access to an intact product to crack. Even if you did so, you'd be missing information present on their servers. For example with the save games being stored on their servers you'd have to pretty much create a save game system.
 

JMV

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Imagine you don't have Internet, so you can't pirate the game. But if you buy it, you can't save your game. They didn't think of that, did they? (although, someone who can afford a PC and games will probably have Internet, but still...)
 

Premonition

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He might have quite a rep behind his name, but he is clearly amongst the people that keep on underestimating hackers.
 

gim73

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And when Ubisoft goes out of business next year and all their servers go down, all the morons who bought these games will never be able to play them (until they bypass the DRM).
 

Byers

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All this accomplishes, as far as I'm concerned, is to motivate me to pirate these games rather than buying them, even if the games themselves turned out to be among the best games of the year, and would have been worth buying on their own merits.
But with this kind of shenanigans attached to them? Forget it.
 

Jared

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Nimbus said:
Number 1 could totally happen. It would be similar to WoW private servers, right? Only, y'know, offline... :/
Sounds like. There will always be ways around something
 

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Tom Goldman said:
In a recent blog post, he details why he feels Ubisoft's new DRM scheme [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98396-Ubisoft-Online-DRM-Its-Worse-Than-Expected] that requires players to constantly be connected to the internet to play could possibly deter pirates long enough to have an actual effect.
Along with deterring...you know, most would-be legitimate buyers who know about the DRM.