Indie Studio "Devastated" After Fake Pledge Derails Kickstarter Campaign

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I'd still much rather play Velocity 2X.

Look, something bad happened, let's be all mopey in public. Get your shit together and look for new ways to get your game funded, don't be all whiny about it.
 

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Windknight said:
Do you remember when trolling was playing silly tricks, screamer videos, and generally the online equivalent of prank phone-calls?

Why the hell has it gone into nastiness like screwing with someones livelihood, harassment, and sundry worse stuff?
Prank phonecalls can lead to people killing themselves [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20710644]. Trolling still is the online equivalent of prank phonecalls, and sometimes that can mean big consequences. The good old days were not as good as you think.
 

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"Gawd, it's just trolling; it's not like the troll raised a group's hopes of making a dream a reality as high as they could before dashing it down for no reason besides the lulz. Besides, it'll probably get funded now that people know about it and the asshole that tried to ruin it, lighten up."

Some people have a hard time with the turing test.
 

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When Kickstarter was still in it's infancy, I had a lengthy discussion with a friend of mine about the pros and cons of the system. I brought up the possibility of someone watching an underfunded Kickstarter page until it's just about to close, and dropping a large fake pledge that would bring them just a hair under the pledge, just to troll them with false hope. We agreed that this would never happen, for a lot of reasons.

That ended up turning into a discussion about large fake pledges, and whether or not it would be easy to screw a project over that way. We remained cautiously optimistic that such a thing wouldn't be a huge issue based on the nature of Kickstarter's community, but seeing the reality of the situation right here in my face makes me wonder if this has happened before on a smaller project. It's pretty screwed up, to say the least.
 

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Kristoffer said:
Excludos said:
Kinitawowi said:
Reason #23296 why Kickstarter is a big steaming pile of jank.
Luckily there are 84,797 reasons why it's not.
Name me 500
Off the top of my head

Divinity: Original Sin
Wasteland 2
Project Eternity
Shadowrun

Just count the satisfied backers from those 4 and you're in the hundreds of thousands

Not counting post kickstarter sales...
 

Piorn

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Has anyone actually talked to "Jonathan" about this?
Hanlon's Razor might apply here, maybe he just mistyped the value, or his account information?
 

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Shouldn't Kickstarter have some sort of... I don't know, measure for preventing this? Like, shouldn't pledging $7000 actually require you to fork over $7000 up front? Rather than merely pinky-promising that you will later. That seems like common sense to me.

To preempt responses about people being able to get their money back if they don't like the decisions of a Kickstarter campaign. Make it so that if the Kickstarter creators alter their plan in some way, people already pledging get a single chance to opt out with a full refund.

There, I just came up with the solution to make your billion dollar business more functional in 2 minutes.
 

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Kinda makes you wish that Kickstarter could pursue them and hold them legally responsible for the contribution that they promised to make.
 

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It seems like there's been a rash of this behavior lately, particularly in indie game Kickstarters. Two projects that I've backed -- Elsinore and Herald -- have experienced the same thing: some jackass fraudulently pledging at the highest tier possible and Kickstarter having to yank the funds.
 

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Windknight said:
Do you remember when trolling was playing silly tricks, screamer videos, and generally the online equivalent of prank phone-calls?

Why the hell has it gone into nastiness like screwing with someones livelihood, harassment, and sundry worse stuff?
Speaking as a "troll" myself (please have mercy) I agree, I only do the stupid silly tricks, this isn't trolling, this is just straight up douche-baggery
 

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Piorn said:
Has anyone actually talked to "Jonathan" about this?
Hanlon's Razor might apply here, maybe he just mistyped the value, or his account information?
That's a very good point. I could easily imagine someone planning to pledge 70.00 euros and pledging 7000 instead. I did something somewhat like that on eBay once.