Indigo Prophecy

[Mikkaddo]

Quite an interesting game, especially to play with the idea of Heavy Rain coming afterward. No, they're not connected not at all. Anyone that might go into Heavy Rain thinking they are is likely a fool (not that I've finished Heavy Rain . . . yet). I just finished the end of Indigo Prophecy, I saved the world, I put into motion the things to keep everyone safe . . . and Lucas Kane (the main char, duh) has heard the "secret." The secret that supposedly changes EVERYTHNING! the secret to life (the universe and everything). The way he heard it, was whispered from the lips of the Indigo Child as she lay on The Artifact at a defunct military base.

Now, the problem . . . is that you hear her very clearly going "mrrmfmfmeefmfmf rrrffrmfmfmf" basically the verbal blots and squits of "whisper whisper." So in other words, while Lucas hears the secret . . . we don't.

Then it goes into epilogue mode, and Lucas is monologueing about how hard it is to be the savior, and how he never wanted to be what he ended up becoming and just wants a normal life blah blah blah, and seems to be coming close to saying the secret . . .

then his girlfriend comes into the picture and stops him from doing it . . .

So, Escapist community . . . I ask you . . . (with much hesitation as this is the internet) what do YOU think that OH so important secret is? what do YOU think she told him that would be so powerful that a race of immortal beings would use time traveling Mayan Oracles to kill people through space and time to find it . . .?

Personally, I think it was along the lines of how to harness the Chroma (ultimate power of the universe, what essentially is alluded to having sparked Creation itself).

 

[Daedalus1942]

Quite an interesting game, especially to play with the idea of Heavy Rain coming afterward. No, they're not connected not at all. Anyone that might go into Heavy Rain thinking they are is likely a fool (not that I've finished Heavy Rain . . . yet). I just finished the end of Indigo Prophecy, I saved the world, I put into motion the things to keep everyone safe . . . and Lucas Kane (the main char, duh) has heard the "secret." The secret that supposedly changes EVERYTHNING! the secret to life (the universe and everything). The way he heard it, was whispered from the lips of the Indigo Child as she lay on The Artifact at a defunct military base.

Now, the problem . . . is that you hear her very clearly going "mrrmfmfmeefmfmf rrrffrmfmfmf" basically the verbal blots and squits of "whisper whisper." So in other words, while Lucas hears the secret . . . we don't.

Then it goes into epilogue mode, and Lucas is monologueing about how hard it is to be the savior, and how he never wanted to be what he ended up becoming and just wants a normal life blah blah blah, and seems to be coming close to saying the secret . . .

then his girlfriend comes into the picture and stops him from doing it . . .

So, Escapist community . . . I ask you . . . (with much hesitation as this is the internet) what do YOU think that OH so important secret is? what do YOU think she told him that would be so powerful that a race of immortal beings would use time traveling Mayan Oracles to kill people through space and time to find it . . .?

Personally, I think it was along the lines of how to harness the Chroma (ultimate power of the universe, what essentially is alluded to having sparked Creation itself).

You might want to spoil warning this topic for people who haven't finished or played the game yet. That being said, I think it might have to do with the Chroma being extraterrestrial in origin, I'm not entirely sure if it's to do with creation, but the fact that they break into an old military base, where the "Chroma" is stored, hints top secret extraterrestrial weapon to me.

 

[Insanum]

Its the question that needs to be asked for 42 to make sense.

EVERYONE knows that.

 

[Good morning blues]

Maybe the secret is what happened to the story that was going on in the first half of the game. You know, the one that wasn't terrible.

 

[aPod]

Maybe the secret is what happened to the story that was going on in the first half of the game. You know, the one that wasn't terrible.

Was it something like

Spoiler

"You got powers!!!"

 

[Good morning blues]

Maybe the secret is what happened to the story that was going on in the first half of the game. You know, the one that wasn't terrible.

Was it something like

Spoiler

"You got powers!!!"

If that's a reference to something, I'm sorry, I don't get it. If you're asking what happens with the plot, well, then I can help you:

It starts off with one of the best opening sequences in a game ever. You've just entered a trance and murdered a guy with a knife in a diner bathroom; you have a couple of minutes to hide the evidence and escape. The first half of the game is that guy trying to figure out what made it happen and these two cops trying to figure out who he is and track him down. It's a really interesting murder mystery (with a twist!) that genuinely has you asking questions and wanting to figure out the answer. Then, halfway through, there's a sequence in a history museum where the whole story just collapses. Suddenly, the ancient mayans are involved somehow, everybody has magical powers, and there's some sort of vague apocalypse happening. You keep playing because it was so interesting and maybe it will get back on track, but no, it just keeps getting crazier and crazier until by the end you're mixed up in Dragonball Z-style flying fistfights, characters that are literally deities are getting introduced and forgotten about in the next scene, and you're being expected to believe that there is a secret worldwide society of hobos that has been controlling world politics for centuries (or something like that).

I cannot think of a single other story in any other form of media that twists so sharply from "interesting" to "batshit crazy in a very bad way."

 

[aPod]

Isnt that pretty much exactly what i said gmb? I said when you got your powers... thats when the game just got bizzaro. Least thats how i remember it, but meh, game was pretty forgettable to me.

 

[Timbydude]

I hate to admit it, but I actually thought the hobo thing was clever. I mean, they did have a point; what better way for a spy to never be suspected? It wasn't wholly believable, but it was at least an interesting idea.

That being said, while I appreciate David Cage's admiration of the principles of storytelling in games, he's quite the incoherent writer. In Indigo Prophecy, he turned an interesting and thought-provoking setup into "ZOMG IT'Z T3H M4TRIX!!1!!1!" In Heavy Rain (avoiding spoilers), he throws tons of red herrings but apparently never learned that you can't just put major plot events in the game and then never explain what they mean or why they happened.

OT: If we could actually discern the secret, then it would lose its value. If it really is the secret to all life, then we obviously don't already know it. If they actually told us what the secret was, our response would simply be, "What? No it isn't," and we would move on.

 

[Good morning blues]

Isnt that pretty much exactly what i said gmb? I said when you got your powers... thats when the game just got bizzaro. Least thats how i remember it, but meh, game was pretty forgettable to me.

Hah, all right, I guess I just misunderstood you.

 

[Rorschach II]

Fahrenheit*

Just thought I would correct the title of this thread. ^_^

 

[ThePreshFrince]

They pulled that shit in Heavy Rain too. Not like it's hard to figure out but still.

 

[Gincairn]

Ok, so I recently bought IP on steam because I never got around to finishing the story, now I guess I don't need to.

Thanks for that.

Next time perhaps a spoiler tag or two?

OT: Perhaps she told him how to make toast always land butter side up?

Seriously though, it was most likely the secret to the resurrection and through it the power over life and death. Miracles etc.

Pretty much "This is how you get seen as being the second coming. . . mrrmfmfmeefmfmf rrrffrmfmfmf"

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

Maybe the secret is what happened to the story that was going on in the first half of the game. You know, the one that wasn't terrible.

That's not really a secret... the game was originally meant to be a trilogy, but when they were halfway done their funding was cut back and they had to cram two-and-a-half games into the final half of one game. Hence the big timeskip, the lack of explanation for what's going on, and the fact that every crazy thing suddenly seems to be happening all at once in an attempt to tie up the story as quickly as possible.

 

[Mikkaddo]

I hate to admit it, but I actually thought the hobo thing was clever. I mean, they did have a point; what better way for a spy to never be suspected? It wasn't wholly believable, but it was at least an interesting idea.

That being said, while I appreciate David Cage's admiration of the principles of storytelling in games, he's quite the incoherent writer. In Indigo Prophecy, he turned an interesting and thought-provoking setup into "ZOMG IT'Z T3H M4TRIX!!1!!1!" In Heavy Rain (avoiding spoilers), he throws tons of red herrings but apparently never learned that you can't just put major plot events in the game and then never explain what they mean or why they happened.

OT: If we could actually discern the secret, then it would lose its value. If it really is the secret to all life, then we obviously don't already know it. If they actually told us what the secret was, our response would simply be, "What? No it isn't," and we would move on.

You mean like what the ignorant say about 42? and the ultimate question as well? I really have to say . . . if you can't see how true that is, then there's something VERY wrong.


in all seriousness I'm not so much upset at wanting to know the secret as I am that they built up to this secret and then just shrugged their shoulders at us.

It would be like a murder mystery where they keep alluding to it's this one guy . . . and then at the very end the characters all at once turn to the screen, shrug their shoulders and go "oops . . . we don't know who it was" fade to black roll credits. It would make me just as angry.


EDIT- And also let's not forget that Yahtzee had the descrip of this game about on spec. "Baron Von Teapot's fucking ludicrous adventure"