Infinity Ward Heads Found New Studio - UPDATED

[Danpascooch]

Woot!

EA!

I adore each ever since taking a risk with Mirror's Edge. And even more with this DLC plan.

How could you possibly be FOR release day DLC? From a company standpoint, it's brilliant, but from the consumer standpoint (assuming you're a consumer and not an EA worker) all it does is take game content that would have been in the game anyway and use it in order to take away your option to buy used games.

Don't care about the used game thing, but at least I'm usually not unlocking content already on the disc. After all, the Stone Prisoner file was quite bulky. As was the Mass Effect 2 stuff. Well, except the Cerberus Weapons.

Even if you aren't a used game buyer, it's still not a GOOD thing for you.

Just because it is not on the disc doesn't make it extra, the fact that it came on release day means it WOULD have been on the disc, but they deliberately took it off the disc in order to use as a "used game sales killer"

This little ruse is made to make you think you're getting something extra, it's like raising the price of something by 10%, and immediately after announcing a 10% sale on that item, IT IS NOT A SALE, IT IS AT IT'S REGULAR PRICE!

idk. Games are finished development before release day, and the DLC has a faster development/release turnaround then manufacturing the discs, etc.

Also:

60 + 10% = 66

66 - 10% = 59.4

Making it cheaper. But I see your point.

Wait, you're saying the exact same content would be faster to develop as DLC then as part of the disc, that makes no sense, it's the same code, same content, just arbitrarily branding it DLC and excluding it from the disc doesn't make it any faster.

Also, damn you for fucking with my mind with your freaky deaky math wizardry!

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Woot!

EA!

I adore each ever since taking a risk with Mirror's Edge. And even more with this DLC plan.

How could you possibly be FOR release day DLC? From a company standpoint, it's brilliant, but from the consumer standpoint (assuming you're a consumer and not an EA worker) all it does is take game content that would have been in the game anyway and use it in order to take away your option to buy used games.

Don't care about the used game thing, but at least I'm usually not unlocking content already on the disc. After all, the Stone Prisoner file was quite bulky. As was the Mass Effect 2 stuff. Well, except the Cerberus Weapons.

Even if you aren't a used game buyer, it's still not a GOOD thing for you.

Just because it is not on the disc doesn't make it extra, the fact that it came on release day means it WOULD have been on the disc, but they deliberately took it off the disc in order to use as a "used game sales killer"

This little ruse is made to make you think you're getting something extra, it's like raising the price of something by 10%, and immediately after announcing a 10% sale on that item, IT IS NOT A SALE, IT IS AT IT'S REGULAR PRICE!

idk. Games are finished development before release day, and the DLC has a faster development/release turnaround then manufacturing the discs, etc.

Also:

60 + 10% = 66

66 - 10% = 59.4

Making it cheaper. But I see your point.

Wait, you're saying the exact same content would be faster to develop as DLC then as part of the disc, that makes no sense, it's the same code, same content, just arbitrarily branding it DLC and excluding it from the disc doesn't make it any faster.

Also, damn you for fucking with my mind with your freaky deaky math wizardry!

I'm suggesting that development on the DLC can have started while the discs were being made.

 

[Danpascooch]

Woot!

EA!

I adore each ever since taking a risk with Mirror's Edge. And even more with this DLC plan.

How could you possibly be FOR release day DLC? From a company standpoint, it's brilliant, but from the consumer standpoint (assuming you're a consumer and not an EA worker) all it does is take game content that would have been in the game anyway and use it in order to take away your option to buy used games.

Don't care about the used game thing, but at least I'm usually not unlocking content already on the disc. After all, the Stone Prisoner file was quite bulky. As was the Mass Effect 2 stuff. Well, except the Cerberus Weapons.

Even if you aren't a used game buyer, it's still not a GOOD thing for you.

Just because it is not on the disc doesn't make it extra, the fact that it came on release day means it WOULD have been on the disc, but they deliberately took it off the disc in order to use as a "used game sales killer"

This little ruse is made to make you think you're getting something extra, it's like raising the price of something by 10%, and immediately after announcing a 10% sale on that item, IT IS NOT A SALE, IT IS AT IT'S REGULAR PRICE!

idk. Games are finished development before release day, and the DLC has a faster development/release turnaround then manufacturing the discs, etc.

Also:

60 + 10% = 66

66 - 10% = 59.4

Making it cheaper. But I see your point.

Wait, you're saying the exact same content would be faster to develop as DLC then as part of the disc, that makes no sense, it's the same code, same content, just arbitrarily branding it DLC and excluding it from the disc doesn't make it any faster.

Also, damn you for fucking with my mind with your freaky deaky math wizardry!

I'm suggesting that development on the DLC can have started while the discs were being made.

Unlikely, something like Stone Prisoner could never have been made in that time.

It's a nice thought, but seriously, it's definitely just the fact that they exclude content from the disc and give you codes to ensure you buy new copies, it makes absolutely perfect sense, after all, they see no revenue on used copies

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Woot!

EA!

I adore each ever since taking a risk with Mirror's Edge. And even more with this DLC plan.

How could you possibly be FOR release day DLC? From a company standpoint, it's brilliant, but from the consumer standpoint (assuming you're a consumer and not an EA worker) all it does is take game content that would have been in the game anyway and use it in order to take away your option to buy used games.

Don't care about the used game thing, but at least I'm usually not unlocking content already on the disc. After all, the Stone Prisoner file was quite bulky. As was the Mass Effect 2 stuff. Well, except the Cerberus Weapons.

Even if you aren't a used game buyer, it's still not a GOOD thing for you.

Just because it is not on the disc doesn't make it extra, the fact that it came on release day means it WOULD have been on the disc, but they deliberately took it off the disc in order to use as a "used game sales killer"

This little ruse is made to make you think you're getting something extra, it's like raising the price of something by 10%, and immediately after announcing a 10% sale on that item, IT IS NOT A SALE, IT IS AT IT'S REGULAR PRICE!

idk. Games are finished development before release day, and the DLC has a faster development/release turnaround then manufacturing the discs, etc.

Also:

60 + 10% = 66

66 - 10% = 59.4

Making it cheaper. But I see your point.

Wait, you're saying the exact same content would be faster to develop as DLC then as part of the disc, that makes no sense, it's the same code, same content, just arbitrarily branding it DLC and excluding it from the disc doesn't make it any faster.

Also, damn you for fucking with my mind with your freaky deaky math wizardry!

I'm suggesting that development on the DLC can have started while the discs were being made.

Unlikely, something like Stone Prisoner could never have been made in that time.

It's a nice thought, but seriously, it's definitely just the fact that they exclude content from the disc and give you codes to ensure you buy new copies, it makes absolutely perfect sense, after all, they see no revenue on used copies

If so, I still don't really care. It's not like they're holding back vital content. All the games are perfectly functional without them. Well, except Dragon Age, that NEEDED a patch to fix that fucking Rogue dagger DEX glitch...

 

[dodo1331]

Pending the Activision trial, this would mean EA would have hands in the 3 biggest FPS franchises. A bit scary for one publisher to have that much power tho.

Not to mention Bioware.

 

[Dead Peanut]

Woot!

EA!

I adore each ever since taking a risk with Mirror's Edge. And even more with this DLC plan.

How could you possibly be FOR release day DLC? From a company standpoint, it's brilliant, but from the consumer standpoint (assuming you're a consumer and not an EA worker) all it does is take game content that would have been in the game anyway and use it in order to take away your option to buy used games.

Don't care about the used game thing, but at least I'm usually not unlocking content already on the disc. After all, the Stone Prisoner file was quite bulky. As was the Mass Effect 2 stuff. Well, except the Cerberus Weapons.

Even if you aren't a used game buyer, it's still not a GOOD thing for you.

Just because it is not on the disc doesn't make it extra, the fact that it came on release day means it WOULD have been on the disc, but they deliberately took it off the disc in order to use as a "used game sales killer"

This little ruse is made to make you think you're getting something extra, it's like raising the price of something by 10%, and immediately after announcing a 10% sale on that item, IT IS NOT A SALE, IT IS AT IT'S REGULAR PRICE!

idk. Games are finished development before release day, and the DLC has a faster development/release turnaround then manufacturing the discs, etc.

Also:

60 + 10% = 66

66 - 10% = 59.4

Making it cheaper. But I see your point.

Wait, you're saying the exact same content would be faster to develop as DLC then as part of the disc, that makes no sense, it's the same code, same content, just arbitrarily branding it DLC and excluding it from the disc doesn't make it any faster.

Also, damn you for fucking with my mind with your freaky deaky math wizardry!

I'm suggesting that development on the DLC can have started while the discs were being made.

Unlikely, something like Stone Prisoner could never have been made in that time.

It's a nice thought, but seriously, it's definitely just the fact that they exclude content from the disc and give you codes to ensure you buy new copies, it makes absolutely perfect sense, after all, they see no revenue on used copies

And what's wrong with that. EA have every right in the world to get some money from the games they produce.

And as for being pissy that they hold things back, Dragonage and Mass Effect 2 are complete games even without the DLC. You don't need shale to have fun playing Dragonage. The extra stuff is just a reward for those who buy the game.

 

[Danpascooch]

Woot!

EA!

I adore each ever since taking a risk with Mirror's Edge. And even more with this DLC plan.

How could you possibly be FOR release day DLC? From a company standpoint, it's brilliant, but from the consumer standpoint (assuming you're a consumer and not an EA worker) all it does is take game content that would have been in the game anyway and use it in order to take away your option to buy used games.

Don't care about the used game thing, but at least I'm usually not unlocking content already on the disc. After all, the Stone Prisoner file was quite bulky. As was the Mass Effect 2 stuff. Well, except the Cerberus Weapons.

Even if you aren't a used game buyer, it's still not a GOOD thing for you.

Just because it is not on the disc doesn't make it extra, the fact that it came on release day means it WOULD have been on the disc, but they deliberately took it off the disc in order to use as a "used game sales killer"

This little ruse is made to make you think you're getting something extra, it's like raising the price of something by 10%, and immediately after announcing a 10% sale on that item, IT IS NOT A SALE, IT IS AT IT'S REGULAR PRICE!

idk. Games are finished development before release day, and the DLC has a faster development/release turnaround then manufacturing the discs, etc.

Also:

60 + 10% = 66

66 - 10% = 59.4

Making it cheaper. But I see your point.

Wait, you're saying the exact same content would be faster to develop as DLC then as part of the disc, that makes no sense, it's the same code, same content, just arbitrarily branding it DLC and excluding it from the disc doesn't make it any faster.

Also, damn you for fucking with my mind with your freaky deaky math wizardry!

I'm suggesting that development on the DLC can have started while the discs were being made.

Unlikely, something like Stone Prisoner could never have been made in that time.

It's a nice thought, but seriously, it's definitely just the fact that they exclude content from the disc and give you codes to ensure you buy new copies, it makes absolutely perfect sense, after all, they see no revenue on used copies

And what's wrong with that. EA have every right in the world to get some money from the games they produce.

And as for being pissy that they hold things back, Dragonage and Mass Effect 2 are complete games even without the DLC. You don't need shale to have fun playing Dragonage. The extra stuff is just a reward for those who buy the game.

First of all, Yes, EA have a right to make more money, that was never in dispute, but that doesn't mean I as a consumer, should welcome the idea of paying more or losing choice for the same amount of content I would have gotten if the policies have not been made. With that logic, why not just raise all game prices, and if anyone gets annoyed, they're stupid because the companies have every right to raise all their prices and we should be happy to pay more money for the same thing!

And this argument that they are "complete games" without them is irrelevant, my point is that the stuff is NOT EXTRA. When I look at a policy and say "is this a good policy from my standpoint" I look and see how it affects me, that is to say, what changes. And what changed is that I lose my ability to buy cheaper used games. That is the only difference, I am not getting anything "extra" as EA would have me believe, because it is just stuff excluded from the disc that would have been there anyway. Since the only change is a negative change, I dislike this policy, regardless of the fact that they have the "legal right" to do it, it affects me only negatively, and thus I do not approve of it.

So is your argument that I am supposed to be glad that EA has taken away my choice because they can legally do so? Think about that, I think you'll realize that viewpoint is a bit nuts.

 

[James Raynor]

Because EA is so much better then activision?