Input needed for this Villian

[shadowstriker86]

So I'm in a writing mood but I'd like some input on this villian I've been workin on, trying to make it so that most of the characters have something you dont see nowadays, complexity.

Alias: Warlock

Real Name: Darion Kralle

Powers: A book/tome that contains every book every written when called out. Example: If he is holding the book and calls out "Show me the book, Physics for Dummies!", the book will show him the pages of said book.

Story: After receiving a letter in the mail about the foreclosure of his antique store if he doesn't pay his bill to the bank, Darion begins to start packing his items into boxes when he comes across a book he's never seen before but thinks he's seen before. He opens the book but is confused to see that there are no words on the pages, considering its a very large tome. He then says to himself "I thought this was (insert name of book here)" and the pages begin to flip, words appearing in the pages from the book he called out. He then begins to experiment, figuring out that he can make use magic using the books he calls out (the usual stuff, fire, ice, portals, flotation) and thinks that he can make a lot of money selling the book but then realizes that it would only postpone the doom of foreclosure on his store and decides that the only way to keep his store open, is to (you guessed it) steal lots and lots of cash so he'll never have to worry about losing his store, however, hates the fact he has to do it, even though he does it (sucessfully i might add) a lot. This happens to be one of those super-hard villians that is almost never caught because of his vast knowledge in magic from being able to read what is practically an unlimited source of information. However when he is caught, his identity is never found out by the heroes because of a cloaking spell he put on himself to make himself look like (i dont know why) Neil Patrick Harris. I think that's about it for right now.

 

[zauxz]

I would sell my soul for this book.

Maybe he did it too?

 

[shadowstriker86]

I would sell my soul for this book.

Maybe he did it too?

No but interestingly enough, he takes a darker turn when (and this is still in my experimental scenarios) when he helps one of the other bigger villians summon a super powerful demon to attack and distract the heroes while the other villian steals an artifact that not even Darion knew about. Why does he do it? Cause the villian said he would pay him enough money so that he could stop stealing and live a normal life again...but does he stop and does the villian live up to his word?

 

[shadowstriker86]

give him a complex? like the malevolent vs benevolent sides of him conflicting since he has a new power that can drastically alter everyday life, including for those around him. maybe make him torn between trying to be good but desiring to "right wrongs"...i dunno, to be crass and explain it a little better, some sort of hybrid rip-off of frodo's ring corrup[ting his consciousness and....there was something else but i forgot.

up to you mate, take it or leave it but it sounds very readable as far as im concerned

(got more evilness in there!)

you mean kind of like a split personality or somthin? well take a look at this dialouge i have written up for that "darker path" i was talkin about a post upwards:

???: So what do you say, I give you enough money to...lead a normal life again, keep that little shop of yours open, and you'll never have to fight those pain in the ass heroes ever again. All you have to do is help me bring my "friend" into this dimension, and the money is all yours my friend....

Darion: .....Fine, I'll do it, but let me tell you something, you will never know what it's like, to have to constantly steal money left and right, to take food money away from families that are living on the brink of starvation, to have to constantly live in fear of being taken down by those heroes, having to constantly look around to see if they police are still chasing me. I hate it, I hate it and I hate myself for doing it, but that's not what scares me, even if i get the money to keep my shop open, I can never make up for what Ive done nor can I ever go back to being normal so don't you dare tell me that I can live a normal life, you got that?

???: Fine Fine, no need to go emotional on me Darion, besides, something tells me that you actually enjoy doing what you do...otherwise you wouldn't do it, now would you?

 

[Dangerious P. Cats]

You could make him someone of a tragic hero type villain (if that makes sense). He's trying to get by and does some minor problematic things (like robbing a bank) hat lead to worse problems down the track like needing to stay out of jail, deal with other villains wanting the book. You could also give him a slight mean streak, so he robs the bank that was going to take his shop, or when he does need to deal with someone, he'll think to do it in a nasty way (kidnap their family, etc), but ultimately he's more of a blunderer with powers than an ass. You could have metaphors about him being an uncontrolled force rather than malicious. He's more of a challenge for the heroes to deal with since they don't want to make things worse by sending him to prison or destroying him, but need to stop him.

 

[shadowstriker86]

give him a complex? like the malevolent vs benevolent sides of him conflicting since he has a new power that can drastically alter everyday life, including for those around him. maybe make him torn between trying to be good but desiring to "right wrongs"...i dunno, to be crass and explain it a little better, some sort of hybrid rip-off of frodo's ring corrup[ting his consciousness and....there was something else but i forgot.

up to you mate, take it or leave it but it sounds very readable as far as im concerned

(got more evilness in there!)

you mean kind of like a split personality or somthin? well take a look at this dialouge i have written up for that "darker path" i was talkin about a post upwards:

???: So what do you say, I give you enough money to...lead a normal life again, keep that little shop of yours open, and you'll never have to fight those pain in the ass heroes ever again. All you have to do is help me bring my "friend" into this dimension, and the money is all yours my friend....

Darion: .....Fine, I'll do it, but let me tell you something, you will never know what it's like, to have to constantly steal money left and right, to take food money away from families that are living on the brink of starvation, to have to constantly live in fear of being taken down by those heroes, having to constantly look around to see if they police are still chasing me. I hate it, I hate it and I hate myself for doing it, but that's not what scares me, even if i get the money to keep my shop open, I can never make up for what Ive done nor can I ever go back to being normal so don't you dare tell me that I can live a normal life, you got that?

???: Fine Fine, no need to go emotional on me Darion, besides, something tells me that you actually enjoy doing what you do...otherwise you wouldn't do it, now would you?

erm i dont think thats quite what i was aiming at but it still sounds ace sounds reminiscently like a deal-with-the-devil jobby. make it already!

i am except 1 problem. it is taking me FOREVER to draw up everything by myself in the fashion that i want it. you ever hear of the story of what eternity is, a small bird flying for a hundred years carrying 1 grain of sand from one side of the world to another, only to be repeating the process over and over again to move a pile of sand to that destination? ya, it's taking that long to draw the PILOT EPISODE!

 

[shadowstriker86]

You could make him someone of a tragic hero type villain (if that makes sense). He's trying to get by and does some minor problematic things (like robbing a bank) hat lead to worse problems down the track like needing to stay out of jail, deal with other villains wanting the book. You could also give him a slight mean streak, so he robs the bank that was going to take his shop, or when he does need to deal with someone, he'll think to do it in a nasty way (kidnap their family, etc), but ultimately he's more of a blunderer with powers than an ass. You could have metaphors about him being an uncontrolled force rather than malicious. He's more of a challenge for the heroes to deal with since they don't want to make things worse by sending him to prison or destroying him, but need to stop him.

there is one scenario that my brother thought of, although i dont really approve of it despite it being hilarious. in one instance he's just robbed a charity for terminally ill people and he's chased into a warehouse by the main 5 heroes, (this is after he's summoned that demon from earlier so he's learned darker magics) and summons what i can only describe as "tentacles" (anyone who knows anime knows exactly what im talking about) and it picks up the 2 girls from the group, and being the person he is, makes a deal with the leader of the heroes, knowing that he has a crush on one of the girls, saying that if he doesn't let him go, he'll know what it means to watch someone suffer

 

[effilctar]

So potentially, this book could be another copy of the Magna Carta or a second print of a book that was printed only once?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Uh...there's a lot of detail on his power but none on him. At the moment it's "Billy No Mates and his Book of Doom".

 

[shadowstriker86]

So potentially, this book could be another copy of the Magna Carta or a second print of a book that was printed only once?

yep. like it states it contains practically every book ever written, however a little twist i threw in is that if the original was written in say....german, it'll show up as german, not english

 

[shadowstriker86]

Uh...there's a lot of detail on his power but none on him. At the moment it's "Billy No Mates and his Book of Doom".

he's basically a guy who owns an antique shop that doesn't want to lose his business, one of those types of people that wishes to spread culture around but doesn't want to see his items just get destroyed and treated like garbage. although you do have a point, i really should put some more detail into his background.

 

[effilctar]

So potentially, this book could be another copy of the Magna Carta or a second print of a book that was printed only once?

yep. like it states it contains practically every book ever written, however a little twist i threw in is that if the original was written in say....german, it'll show up as german, not english

OT: How about a relative or close friend/love interest has put under a spell where she's basically dead... but not, and there's one book in existence that has the reversal to this spell, but the exact name of the book AND the author are needed and you can't just say "the book that will reverse the spell on my relative/lover/friend". He doesn't know the name of the book but some evil person does and forces the villain to do his bidding for him to get the name and author? Also with this cloaking Spell he should look like Kurt Russell, so that the guy gets to play him in the movie.

 

[shadowstriker86]

So potentially, this book could be another copy of the Magna Carta or a second print of a book that was printed only once?

yep. like it states it contains practically every book ever written, however a little twist i threw in is that if the original was written in say....german, it'll show up as german, not english

OT: How about a relative or close friend/love interest has put under a spell where she's basically dead... but not, and there's one book in existence that has the reversal to this spell, but the exact name of the book AND the author are needed and you can't just say "the book that will reverse the spell on my relative/lover/friend". He doesn't know the name of the book but some evil person does and forces the villain to do his bidding for him to get the name and author? Also with this cloaking Spell he should look like Kurt Russell, so that the guy gets to play him in the movie.

but therin lies a bit of a problem, if he needs both the authors name and the name of the book, why is it he would be able to read all the other books just by their name? although i will throw that into my scenarios pile, mostly because of the fact that i have him written as a loner but at the same time if it's just him...he could be separated from his physical body but his spirit form can still use the book?

 

[Dragon_of_red]

Ummm, this idea probably sucks and may be predictable, but with after he summoned that massive demon guy, the other eviler person, whould try and double cross him and force the villian to go in leags with the 5 heroes to stop him...

I dont know, im not a writer...

 

[effilctar]

So potentially, this book could be another copy of the Magna Carta or a second print of a book that was printed only once?

yep. like it states it contains practically every book ever written, however a little twist i threw in is that if the original was written in say....german, it'll show up as german, not english

OT: How about a relative or close friend/love interest has put under a spell where she's basically dead... but not, and there's one book in existence that has the reversal to this spell, but the exact name of the book AND the author are needed and you can't just say "the book that will reverse the spell on my relative/lover/friend". He doesn't know the name of the book but some evil person does and forces the villain to do his bidding for him to get the name and author? Also with this cloaking Spell he should look like Kurt Russell, so that the guy gets to play him in the movie.

but therin lies a bit of a problem, if he needs both the authors name and the name of the book, why is it he would be able to read all the other books just by their name? although i will throw that into my scenarios pile, mostly because of the fact that i have him written as a loner but at the same time if it's just him...he could be separated from his physical body but his spirit form can still use the book?

He would need the author name for any book. A simple reason for this is shared titles. One example I can extract from my life at the moment: I'm doing a full project on the history of alchemy and I'm looking for books for references. Now there are 2 books with exactly the same title, but one explains the history of alchemy, their practises, beliefs and such, whereas the other is some new-age dribble about using star signs and lunar knowledge to ascend to a higher power. The difference between the 2 is the author.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Uh...there's a lot of detail on his power but none on him. At the moment it's "Billy No Mates and his Book of Doom".

he's basically a guy who owns an antique shop that doesn't want to lose his business, one of those types of people that wishes to spread culture around but doesn't want to see his items just get destroyed and treated like garbage. although you do have a point, i really should put some more detail into his background.

The real problem you have at the moment is that the book is the villain. Not the guy. He needs to have at least double the amount written about him than the book does.

 

[Lord Thodin]

I want that fuckin book man.

 

[DuplicateValue]

give him a complex? like the malevolent vs benevolent sides of him conflicting since he has a new power that can drastically alter everyday life, including for those around him. maybe make him torn between trying to be good but desiring to "right wrongs"...i dunno, to be crass and explain it a little better, some sort of hybrid rip-off of frodo's ring corrup[ting his consciousness and....there was something else but i forgot.

up to you mate, take it or leave it but it sounds very readable as far as im concerned

(got more evilness in there!)

you mean kind of like a split personality or somthin? well take a look at this dialouge i have written up for that "darker path" i was talkin about a post upwards:

???: So what do you say, I give you enough money to...lead a normal life again, keep that little shop of yours open, and you'll never have to fight those pain in the ass heroes ever again. All you have to do is help me bring my "friend" into this dimension, and the money is all yours my friend....

Darion: .....Fine, I'll do it, but let me tell you something, you will never know what it's like, to have to constantly steal money left and right, to take food money away from families that are living on the brink of starvation, to have to constantly live in fear of being taken down by those heroes, having to constantly look around to see if they police are still chasing me. I hate it, I hate it and I hate myself for doing it, but that's not what scares me, even if i get the money to keep my shop open, I can never make up for what Ive done nor can I ever go back to being normal so don't you dare tell me that I can live a normal life, you got that?

???: Fine Fine, no need to go emotional on me Darion, besides, something tells me that you actually enjoy doing what you do...otherwise you wouldn't do it, now would you?

Wait, he steals from starving families!? What an asshole! Isn't there any rich people around that he could take from instead?

You've made me hate him. That makes him a well-built character in my eyes. =]

 

[shadowstriker86]

So potentially, this book could be another copy of the Magna Carta or a second print of a book that was printed only once?

yep. like it states it contains practically every book ever written, however a little twist i threw in is that if the original was written in say....german, it'll show up as german, not english

OT: How about a relative or close friend/love interest has put under a spell where she's basically dead... but not, and there's one book in existence that has the reversal to this spell, but the exact name of the book AND the author are needed and you can't just say "the book that will reverse the spell on my relative/lover/friend". He doesn't know the name of the book but some evil person does and forces the villain to do his bidding for him to get the name and author? Also with this cloaking Spell he should look like Kurt Russell, so that the guy gets to play him in the movie.

but therin lies a bit of a problem, if he needs both the authors name and the name of the book, why is it he would be able to read all the other books just by their name? although i will throw that into my scenarios pile, mostly because of the fact that i have him written as a loner but at the same time if it's just him...he could be separated from his physical body but his spirit form can still use the book?

He would need the author name for any book. A simple reason for this is shared titles. One example I can extract from my life at the moment: I'm doing a full project on the history of alchemy and I'm looking for books for references. Now there are 2 books with exactly the same title, but one explains the history of alchemy, their practises, beliefs and such, whereas the other is some new-age dribble about using star signs and lunar knowledge to ascend to a higher power. The difference between the 2 is the author.

damn i didnt even think about that, but ya that is a good point, which means alot more writing and fact checking...oh joy...

 

[shadowstriker86]

Uh...there's a lot of detail on his power but none on him. At the moment it's "Billy No Mates and his Book of Doom".

he's basically a guy who owns an antique shop that doesn't want to lose his business, one of those types of people that wishes to spread culture around but doesn't want to see his items just get destroyed and treated like garbage. although you do have a point, i really should put some more detail into his background.

The real problem you have at the moment is that the book is the villain. Not the guy. He needs to have at least double the amount written about him than the book does.

double in detail, amount of text or both?