Mostly due to Halo, but yeah. That's sort of my point. Microsoft's not used to being second, they're used to being so far ahead that they could spit on their customers' heads and still push millions of units by necessity.
You are too biased in favor of Nintendo to hear anything from someone who is still willing to give Nintendo a chance but is done with Microsoft (ie, ME). I mean really, you are just over the top biased. I have been as nice as possible talking to you but my patience has run thin.
I mean, Microsoft isn't used to being in second place BECAUSE the Xbox ended in second place? That makes no sense and BTW, the 360 is in second place too. I would say they are used to being in second or third place in the game industry because that's where they have always been.
I suppose we'll have to wait and find out then, rather than just assuming the worst because ....wait, why ARE we assuming the worst again? You still haven't explained why Nintendo is a bad company, or what they've done to merit a reputation of distrust.
I never said Nintendo is a bad company or that they should be distrusted. Stop with your strawmen. I am not going to provide evidence for things I did not say.
I never claimed my habits were representative of gamer culture as a whole. I merely pointed out that I, as a gamer, have a contradictory opinion to you. Which is precisely why opinions are anecdotal evidence, and thus, worthless.
What you did was claim that what I have read on forums for years doesn't count because YOU like the Wii. You are basically saying that MOST gamers feel as you do about the Wii. Well, they don't. It is pretty universally accepted that the Wii was not a good fit for core gamers, even Nintendo seems to acknowledge that when they talk of getting those gamers back.
Tell you what though, start a poll asking people on here how they feel about the Wii. Bet you won't because deep down you know how that will go.
Then, for the third time, I guess we'll just have to wait and see rather than just assuming the worst of a company for no good reason, eh? Gosh this sounds familiar.
No good reason? Are you serious?
If a company (or a person) makes the same damn promises every generation and has never really fulfilled them, wouldn't you start to lose faith?
The N64, Gamecube and Wii had little third party support. Before the last two of those launches Nintendo said they were going to do better this gen in regards to third parties, they didn't. Now we're just supposed to believe it because...why?
Er, you don't mean generation, because that term refers to the time period during which it was released, NOT its hardware capabilities.
Yeah, I should have said "the hardware will be so far behind that porting will be impossible", just like the Wii is today.
Also you seem to have missed the point entirely. The primary barrier to the Wii getting a lot of the same games that the 360 and PS3 got was the tremendous problems they had with graphical quality. Games had to be downgraded to work on it. The Wii U's proposed technical specs would remove that barrier. Even assuming the new PS4 and whatever-the-next-XBOX-is-called have better RAM/processors/hard drives, that doesn't instantly translate to better graphical quality or better functionality.
Here's what I know, I know the Wii was a little more powerful than the Xbox. I know that the WiiU is a little more powerful than the PS3/360. See the parallels?
It's curious that, later on in this same post, you make a point of saying that the PS2 sold well during the years after Wii's release (when, mind, the PS3 was also on the market at this time and wasn't doing as well).
I never said this. I said the PS2 sold well, that's it.
The simple answer, of course, is that graphical quality isn't everything.
I never said that graphics are everything. I said they were important.
You're fuckin' arguing with yourself here. You conjure up some bullshit in your head and then argue against it. You should debate sober next time.
Now if you'd only drop this overbearing tone of "and everyone else in the gamer world agrees with me" (which is false), we'll be in agreement.
Another example of you making shit up. I never said EVERYONE ELSE and I never said anything like that in relation to the WiiU. I was talking about how MOST gamers feel about the Wii.
Seriously, you keep this shit up and I am going to report you for wasting everyone's time with strawmen.
What's interesting is that people keep bringing this up as if it somehow means something, but the PS2 never outsold the Wii in any given year during the time of the Wii's release up to the present day, and it didn't outsell the Wii in overall units, either.
I wasn't comparing the PS2 sales to the Wii sales. I was saying that the PS2 outsold it competition during it's generation and it was the weakest too. Then I went on to say (my god, why do I have to type this out again, learn to fuckin' read) that games could be ported from the other two consoles of that gen to the PS2 because the gap wasn't as big as it is this gen with the Wii.
The Wii sold on it's gimmick and then it went into dust collecting mode in many homes. It's why third parties stop developing for it, only Nintendo games sold well.
