Internet Petition Demands Dark Souls Drop GFWL
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I know there is console piracy. But it's nowhere near as widespread and accessible as PC Pirating.lapan said:
Sometimes I do, yes. I like to play the Devil's advocate. But here, I truly feel this way. I have TRULY never had an issue with GFWL.Brad Shepard said:
Yup, GFWL is terrible and doesnt really work that well and even when it does will still piss you around.
It also happens to be almost identical to how xbox live works (except it works on console), meaning that most of the time taken will be put into making sure the port works, developing a control scheme (and hopefully allowing things such as key bindings), checking issues with hardware (gee, Rage on day 1 was a blast) and add anything extra needed.
It also happens to be almost identical to how xbox live works (except it works on console), meaning that most of the time taken will be put into making sure the port works, developing a control scheme (and hopefully allowing things such as key bindings), checking issues with hardware (gee, Rage on day 1 was a blast) and add anything extra needed.
Oh, I think you know what it means...if you don't, try playing online and letting people know you're...not as like them in skin tone.ccdohl said:
Thats all I'll say, as you get accused of playing the race card for pointing out flaws of the 'master' race.
GFWL is only being used because NamcoBandai requested From to do so, however Miyazaki has been quoted as saying "final specs and distribution details have yet to be determined." By that, I hope the situation isn't as hopeless as I feared.
sourcehttp://www.destructoid.com/dark-souls-pc-details-specs-control-pvp-and-more-225963.phtml
sourcehttp://www.destructoid.com/dark-souls-pc-details-specs-control-pvp-and-more-225963.phtml
Ok... in all fairness I dont like GFWL at all, buuuuuuut, the program essentially works just fine.
The problem with it is not that it fails to work. The problem with it is being forced to run at least 3 different service layer processes underneath it to make it work, and if you tamper with those processes it can break the whole setup.
GFWL, LiveID, LiveID Login manager, .net framework and possibly, cant recall, but I think Silver light. All of which are really unnecessary outside of the base client and even that is really not needed. You should not have to run 10 additional processes outside of the main client equaling out to about 20-50 mb of system resources just to run a client so that it can launch the program.
SO if you have all that garbage running, yeah the program works just fine. If you intentionally stop any of those components or fail to update them accordingly, then yes you likely will have problems, but the same is true of steam except if steam isnt fully updated or some of its components cannot run, it just shuts down, instead of continuing to run broken making you think its actually working.
Anyway. Not fond of GFWL for these unneeded resources, but I really hope it doesnt come to steam either. Honestly not that steam is bad, but its the expectation that it was going to be released on steam despite any evidence suggesting it and even evidence suggesting it wouldnt and then pitching a fit in protest because it was not made available to people via their great and glorious gaming benefactor.I would be happy with anything other than steam simply out of spite, but Gamers Gate, D2D, Impulse, GoG, would be idea, So really im fine with GFWL provided it DOESNT go to steam, because people bitching that things didnt go their way seems to be the new black.
The problem with it is not that it fails to work. The problem with it is being forced to run at least 3 different service layer processes underneath it to make it work, and if you tamper with those processes it can break the whole setup.
GFWL, LiveID, LiveID Login manager, .net framework and possibly, cant recall, but I think Silver light. All of which are really unnecessary outside of the base client and even that is really not needed. You should not have to run 10 additional processes outside of the main client equaling out to about 20-50 mb of system resources just to run a client so that it can launch the program.
SO if you have all that garbage running, yeah the program works just fine. If you intentionally stop any of those components or fail to update them accordingly, then yes you likely will have problems, but the same is true of steam except if steam isnt fully updated or some of its components cannot run, it just shuts down, instead of continuing to run broken making you think its actually working.
Anyway. Not fond of GFWL for these unneeded resources, but I really hope it doesnt come to steam either. Honestly not that steam is bad, but its the expectation that it was going to be released on steam despite any evidence suggesting it and even evidence suggesting it wouldnt and then pitching a fit in protest because it was not made available to people via their great and glorious gaming benefactor.I would be happy with anything other than steam simply out of spite, but Gamers Gate, D2D, Impulse, GoG, would be idea, So really im fine with GFWL provided it DOESNT go to steam, because people bitching that things didnt go their way seems to be the new black.
In all fairness, I take back what I said. After hearing how using GFWL streamlines the porting and the conditions the port was coming out in the first place, I can see how they are between a rock and a hard place on this one. It still sucks a hell but it might deserve the "buy it anways and crack the offending bits off" treatment. Let's hope the next sequel avoids it from the start -.-
Strongly agree with what this fellow said.Sandytimeman said:
It's like someone decided to intentionally wreck the game after a really smooth beta. </ /3
I'm all in favour of not having GFWL on anything. Not that I care about Dark Souls, but I do care about GFWL being craptasticular.
I am so f***** sick of people bitching about steam and it all has to run on steam, for fucks sake steam is not the messiah It doesn't even work in offline mode.
OT: They should take it off GFWL and use Origin instead just to see how pissed off people get.
OT: They should take it off GFWL and use Origin instead just to see how pissed off people get.