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Yes. I've said many times that games that require a constant connection are pretty much worthless to me, mainly because games are the first thing I turn to for entertainment when my internet is down. A game that requires my internet be up... isn't very entertaining when my internet isn't up.
I'm sure there'll be plenty of games that don't require a connection, but will they be the ones I would otherwise be actually interested in, or something like Bejeweled 4 Billion? >.<
I'm sure there'll be plenty of games that don't require a connection, but will they be the ones I would otherwise be actually interested in, or something like Bejeweled 4 Billion? >.<
It gets extremely frustrating when your internet goes out but you still want your fix of smash-em, shoot-em fun. Yeah, there's always books or *gasps* going outside, but sometimes a person just wants to see and hear the wet SPLAT of body parts bouncing off a wall.
I live in the boonies. My connection is down sometimes for days, sometimes even weeks at a time. So, I'm either glued to my computer, cramming as much internet into my life as possible at the moment, or playing video games for leisure activities. God I hate the country....
I was a fairly early adopter, and honestly today I feel that there is very little online connectivity adds to make the experience of the game better and more often than not online connectivity actually diminishes or downright ruins the experience.
Some games you certainly could not do without it, but realistically those games are too few and far between. If you put a gun to my head and told me I had no choice but to name a way online connectivity enhanced the experience of the game the only one I can genuinely think of is fighting games in that online connectivity can fill in the gaps that come when you dont have people to gather around in one room to play head to head matches, but really online connectivity has only become strong enough within the last 5-10 years to become viable for fighting game due to issues with lag becoming less prevalent
Honestly I would have no problem to see it discontinued or at the very least have its saturation level returned to about the 2000 level. Sure it sucks in some respects for the players due to a few nice things that have came up since its rise in popularity, such as DLC extending good games, occasional twitch head to head gameplay, etc. But I would gladly give all that up so as to get rid of whining screaming hate filled man/children that dominate the FPS scene, Developers who are using it to skirt around their legal responsibilities, Developers who are using it to get by with giving less of their developmental effort for more of our money, Developers who are using it to overinflate an issue so as to further restrict and monitor your usage of their product after they no longer have rights to do so as once it is sold it is no longer their product.
So really, the biggest bulk of my issue with it, is not the jackasses you might encounter. My problem with it, is the same sort of problems that are essentially effecting every facet our the global economy right now. Wealthy corporations consolidating power and using that power to undermine the rights of the general populous by the extensive manipulation of the sheer unadulterated ignorance and stupidity that is present in large swaths of the general population, and its those same types of things that has small groups of people banding together right now across the US and working its way across the globe in resistance to the continued perpetuation of these toxic ideologies and practices.
(side note: Before I end up derailing the thread, please let me state, I am not against a corporation making money. They need to exist, there is no question about it. Hell look at how pathetic our every day lives would be without corporations. That is not the problem. The problem comes in when certain corporations get to a point where they are comfortable in profit and try to either secure that profit or expand it and do so at the expense of the people who gave them that profit in the first place. I want the "job creators" to have money, so they can create jobs. I just do not want them to be allowed to "create jobs" overseas because they dont want to comply with regulations that exist only because they were doing something grievously wrong in the first place)
Some games you certainly could not do without it, but realistically those games are too few and far between. If you put a gun to my head and told me I had no choice but to name a way online connectivity enhanced the experience of the game the only one I can genuinely think of is fighting games in that online connectivity can fill in the gaps that come when you dont have people to gather around in one room to play head to head matches, but really online connectivity has only become strong enough within the last 5-10 years to become viable for fighting game due to issues with lag becoming less prevalent
Honestly I would have no problem to see it discontinued or at the very least have its saturation level returned to about the 2000 level. Sure it sucks in some respects for the players due to a few nice things that have came up since its rise in popularity, such as DLC extending good games, occasional twitch head to head gameplay, etc. But I would gladly give all that up so as to get rid of whining screaming hate filled man/children that dominate the FPS scene, Developers who are using it to skirt around their legal responsibilities, Developers who are using it to get by with giving less of their developmental effort for more of our money, Developers who are using it to overinflate an issue so as to further restrict and monitor your usage of their product after they no longer have rights to do so as once it is sold it is no longer their product.
So really, the biggest bulk of my issue with it, is not the jackasses you might encounter. My problem with it, is the same sort of problems that are essentially effecting every facet our the global economy right now. Wealthy corporations consolidating power and using that power to undermine the rights of the general populous by the extensive manipulation of the sheer unadulterated ignorance and stupidity that is present in large swaths of the general population, and its those same types of things that has small groups of people banding together right now across the US and working its way across the globe in resistance to the continued perpetuation of these toxic ideologies and practices.
(side note: Before I end up derailing the thread, please let me state, I am not against a corporation making money. They need to exist, there is no question about it. Hell look at how pathetic our every day lives would be without corporations. That is not the problem. The problem comes in when certain corporations get to a point where they are comfortable in profit and try to either secure that profit or expand it and do so at the expense of the people who gave them that profit in the first place. I want the "job creators" to have money, so they can create jobs. I just do not want them to be allowed to "create jobs" overseas because they dont want to comply with regulations that exist only because they were doing something grievously wrong in the first place)
My internet connection is pretty stable, so on a practical level it's not that big a concern. But it's the principle of the thing, really. I paid for this game and that means that I should be able to play it whenever I want, regardless of whether I am connected to the company's servers. It's just infuriating to me when the industry insists on restricting what it's customers can do with a product they have purchased.
No. Mostly because I think a large portion of the 1st world will have the internet (or a starbucks with free wifi) available to them at all times sometime in the not to distant future. Such a future would mean complain over requiring Internet is like complain over requiring having to eat. Maybe I'm just be to optimist though.
I have a better solution, buy the game, and then pirate it as well. That way they get their money for the game, and you get a game that doesn't block you from playing it. Interestingly, I have all the Company of Heroes expansions installed on my machine, and when I try to play with my comp connected to the internet, it tells me I need to insert my disk (classic DRM bullshit there, lots of people have this problem) I insert the disk and it claims the media is not recognized. However, if I turn the internet OFF, it will recognize the disk. DRM is sooo fail.
Yeah, fair enough. But then you don't get to play the gameSenorStocks said:
Also, the game is not just made by one amorphous blob, the game has many different people who work on the game. Just cause one marketing dickweed wants to put drm in a game means all the artists, coders, animators etc etc etc get less money and a shitton of hate brought down like a trolling rain on their studio and reputations.
It really only bothers me because of latency and the possibility of being unable to play due to servers being down. My own internet is always up and quite fast but I still get noticeable latency when playing online as opposed to playing offline.
Even though it is something you don't really notice until you do it. I never realized just how bad the latency in Starcraft 2 was until I happened to play it offline once and suddenly everything was instant.
Even though it is something you don't really notice until you do it. I never realized just how bad the latency in Starcraft 2 was until I happened to play it offline once and suddenly everything was instant.
you realize games on steam cannot be played without the internet because without internet you cannot log into steam thus steam actually owns your games and you just pay them for them to let you play them and if they decide to stop offering the games you bought they will be gone?SenorStocks said:I can live with not playing a game if it means not encouraging this in the future. I don't know about you, but I have a backlog on steam and GOG.com that will keep me busy forever! Not to mention building a collection of gamecube, ps2 and ps1 games that aren't infected with this nonsense.maxmanrules said:Yeah, fair enough. But then you don't get to play the gameSenorStocks said:
Also, the game is not just made by one amorphous blob, the game has many different people who work on the game. Just cause one marketing dickweed wants to put drm in a game means all the artists, coders, animators etc etc etc get less money and a shitton of hate brought down like a trolling rain on their studio and reputations.
Unfortunately there isn't a way to treat them as separate and unless there is a way we have no choice but to treat them as a single entity and the best we can do is get in contact and say "we like the look of the game, but I won't tolerate the DRM". Probably futile but if enough people did it maybe they would listen.
