Bethesda did fallout 3 with no guarantee of financial success whatsoever. They could have gone ahead with the elder scrolls, a franchise that would have made money no matter what, but they went with fallout. Then they let obsidian, a company containing a large amount of the original developers make new vegas while bethesda was making skyrim. I can't imagine a better home for fallout.
Interplay Loses Rights to Fallout MMO
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Enough of the original developers are at Obsidian that it is more like one parent taking the child because the other one has no money, and the child would have no future with them.The Madman said:
I'm sure they will. The next fallout will likely be bethesda's, but obsidian will probably make one when they are done with the south park RPG, which wouldn't exist if bethesda didn't let them make NV.Soviet Heavy said:
I doubt it, bethesda or obsidian would probably make it with the creation engine.thomaskattus said:
Bethesda didn't acquire the work they had done on the project - all of that remains with Interplay, but if they want to continue working on it they need to remove all of the Fallout-related content.thomaskattus said:
Yeah, the Interplay of today is really Titus Interactive.brainslurper said:
/facepalm. Ok first of all, the MMO was being developed using Betheseda's money in the first place. Interplay only remerged as a developer/publisher because they sold the franchise to Betheseda. So either way, people like you would have considered it 'tainted' by a successful developer/publisher that specialises in open world RPGs.viranimus said:
If the law was on the side of Interplay, they wouldn't have lost the rights to the mmo, and would have been comfortable enough to press on without settling. They also would have been able to get far more then two million dollars for it. Second of all, fallout 3 hasn't HAD any sequels yet. Fallout New Vegas wasn't a sequel in anyway shape or form, nor was it developed by the people who made fallout three. Its closer to being fallout BoS or Fallout Tactics then it is a fallout sequel (in the method of production, not story I mean.
Personally I quite enjoyed New Vegas, even if it did recycle some things from fallout three. I certainly enjoyed it then a buggy pop outdated pop-culture mess that requires numerous third party patches to be playable. But that's getting a little harsh on fallout two, so I apologise to anyone who enjoyed it, and admit they might have different tastes then I do.
I also love how you claim there is numerous 'copy pasta' sequels. I do believe you have gotten Bethesda confused with Infinity Ward or Treyarch. From the best of my knowledge, skyrim shares almost NO copy pasted material from Oblivion, nor did Oblivion share any with Morrowwind etc etc. So why the heck would you complain about a company that does that much to keep things different suddenly start changing their minds now? Hell, Betheseda might be considered moderately evil in many ways, but at least they try and expand the horizons whenever they can.
Besides, fallout is in many parts about a poor, lonely bastard trying to explore a world where everything wants to kill him, to try and find somewhere he can call home. Is there really anyone at the moment who does better open words then bethesda?
The fact that it might get actually get released now makes it a dark day? You do remember the stories about how interplay couldn't even afford to finish developing it?FalloutJack said:
Using your metaphor, the parents have already moved on to obsidian, while their child was held hostage in the house they used to live in, with the parents prepared to leave them there. However child services (Betheseda) had a swat team (the laywers) go in, beat the door down and started shooting anyone who stopped them from rescuing the kids. Not only that, they've given the children everything they need to grow up and become successful in their own right, while even letting their neglectful parents take them on a pleasant vacation to their childhood neighbourhood, with the possibility for partial custody in the future.The Madman said:
No it didn't Its been specifically said hundreds of times, Interplay sold/pwned the house/IP to Bethesda, in order to raise a bit of cash to survive. They then rented it from bethesda, in order to play around once more, but they violated the rental agreement and thus have been evicted.chiefohara said:
Bethesida never held a gun at their head and forced them to rent, they merely wanted their agreement honoured.
All things come to an end. In all likelihood, Interplay would have did a bad job of the Fallout MMO anyway.
Good. Hopefully a Fallout MMO is never made. Making an MMORPG pretty much signifies the end of a franchise. Very rarely does a new singleplayer game get made after an MMO is created, and it pisses me off as a person who measures a game solely on it's singleplayer and dislikes most mulitplayer games.
this was my first, rather sarcastic thought.newwiseman said:
even if a fallout MMO is 9000+ flavors of bad idea
I wanted Interplay to go at it, because I didn't like how Bethesda was being a pain in the ass about it. For whatever reason, for whatever problems the whole thing created, I didn't like the idea of them fighting over it, and that they should've let Interplay go forward. The whole fight was pointless and stupid and I do not agree with the outcome. So yes, dark frigging day. Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to stew on that in peace.Sucal said:
The idea of a Fallout MMO always struck me as odd anyway. Why should a place that is essentially a low-populated wasteland become an MMO filled with a bunch of people? I think it would take away some of the atmosphere of the game.
brainslurper said:
Never said it was bad for Fallout, I just said I feel sorry for the metaphorical parents here. It's pretty much 90% nostalgia talking here: I'm well aware pretty much everyone who made Interplay, well, Interplay have already moved on to other things. But still it's sad to see a brand I once saw as a sign of quality and integrity (This was a long time ago, alright?) being pushed around and having dirt smeared in its face.Sucal said:
For clarification I never actually played more than a few hours of Fallout 3. Didn't much like it, but that's a personal preference. Others seem to just fine and honestly I was never a hardcore Fallout fan to begin with.
Probably for the best. It's worth noting that Interplay is just a publisher, and that it wasn't going to recreate Black Isle, but let some other developer work on a fallout MMO.
I like the Fallout series in Bethesda's hands. I think they are doing a great job so far.
For those who want a fallout game by the guys who made the original game - it's called Fallout New Vegas which was developed by Obsidian, which has most of the original Black Isle people in it. Having Interplay publish it wouldn't have made it any better.
I like the Fallout series in Bethesda's hands. I think they are doing a great job so far.
For those who want a fallout game by the guys who made the original game - it's called Fallout New Vegas which was developed by Obsidian, which has most of the original Black Isle people in it. Having Interplay publish it wouldn't have made it any better.
Depends. Bethesda probably wouldn't have pursued this lawsuit so vigorously if they weren't already planning on producing their own MMO. If they had jumped the gun on development even before they started thinking about the lawsuit, and it starts off as a relatively small-scale project with plans for expansion, it could be as little as 1-2 years. Otherwise, expect the normal development time for an MMO. For reference on how long that can take for a relatively high quality project, planning on The Old Republic and Rift both began as early as 2006.newwiseman said:
To what end? Interplay died only to have a kazakhstani with no game development experience buy the name and pad his company entirely with artists and web developers so they can make official looking press releases and websites with absolutely nothing to back them up.Vault Citizen said:
I'm not the biggest fan of Bethesda, but at least they're willing to sublet the IP to Obsidian, the people really responsible for Fallout. Is them getting the rights to it that much worse than them landing in the hands of some opportunistic vulture?
I'm kind of glad this has happened judging from the financial stability of Interplay there was no way this would have been successful and it would have damaged the brand.
I can totally understand why Bethesda didn't want them to make it.
I can totally understand why Bethesda didn't want them to make it.
