No offense man, there is a reason Interplay is in the situation they are in. I am glad Bethesda is going to have the rights to the Fallout MMO, I was VERY concerned about Interplay doing it.
Enough of the original developers are at Obsidian that it is more like one parent taking the child because the other one has no money, and the child would have no future with them.The Madman said:Like I said in another topic on the subject, I just can't bring myself to feel good about this. Interplay was a big part of my gaming life for the longest time, with some of my all time favourites emblazoned with that logo.
This just feels like Bethesda kicking a studio while they're down. It's brutal. I mean Interplay are responsible for the creation of the Fallout franchise in the first place, if it weren't for them the series wouldn't exist. Yet now with this ruling not even the old games are theirs for much longer.
Interplays children just got taken away... sure they're going to a good home, but I still can't help but feel sad for the original parents especially when it seems like that was the only thing they really had left.
I'm sure they will. The next fallout will likely be bethesda's, but obsidian will probably make one when they are done with the south park RPG, which wouldn't exist if bethesda didn't let them make NV.Soviet Heavy said:Ah, that's a shame. Oh well, I hope that Obsidian keeps getting to work on the series. Now, they're the last part of Black Isle left, and with Interplay out of the picture, they're even more alone now than ever.
I doubt it, bethesda or obsidian would probably make it with the creation engine.thomaskattus said:That is indeed bad news for Interplay.
However I am curious to know if Bethesda will continue the project somehow?
Bethesda didn't acquire the work they had done on the project - all of that remains with Interplay, but if they want to continue working on it they need to remove all of the Fallout-related content.thomaskattus said:That is indeed bad news for Interplay.
However I am curious to know if Bethesda will continue the project somehow?
Yeah, the Interplay of today is really Titus Interactive.brainslurper said:Enough of the original developers are at Obsidian that it is more like one parent taking the child because the other one has no money, and the child would have no future with them.The Madman said:Like I said in another topic on the subject, I just can't bring myself to feel good about this. Interplay was a big part of my gaming life for the longest time, with some of my all time favourites emblazoned with that logo.
This just feels like Bethesda kicking a studio while they're down. It's brutal. I mean Interplay are responsible for the creation of the Fallout franchise in the first place, if it weren't for them the series wouldn't exist. Yet now with this ruling not even the old games are theirs for much longer.
Interplays children just got taken away... sure they're going to a good home, but I still can't help but feel sad for the original parents especially when it seems like that was the only thing they really had left.
/facepalm. Ok first of all, the MMO was being developed using Betheseda's money in the first place. Interplay only remerged as a developer/publisher because they sold the franchise to Betheseda. So either way, people like you would have considered it 'tainted' by a successful developer/publisher that specialises in open world RPGs.viranimus said:Snip.
The fact that it might get actually get released now makes it a dark day? You do remember the stories about how interplay couldn't even afford to finish developing it?FalloutJack said:Snip
Using your metaphor, the parents have already moved on to obsidian, while their child was held hostage in the house they used to live in, with the parents prepared to leave them there. However child services (Betheseda) had a swat team (the laywers) go in, beat the door down and started shooting anyone who stopped them from rescuing the kids. Not only that, they've given the children everything they need to grow up and become successful in their own right, while even letting their neglectful parents take them on a pleasant vacation to their childhood neighbourhood, with the possibility for partial custody in the future.The Madman said:Interplays children just got taken away... sure they're going to a good home, but I still can't help but feel sad for the original parents especially when it seems like that was the only thing they really had left.
No it didn't Its been specifically said hundreds of times, Interplay sold/pwned the house/IP to Bethesda, in order to raise a bit of cash to survive. They then rented it from bethesda, in order to play around once more, but they violated the rental agreement and thus have been evicted.chiefohara said:I feel really bad for Interplay...
I love what Bethesda have done with the franchise, and the old black isle guys becoming obsidion and working with New Vegas was also something that made me happy... but this just feels.... unjust you know?
The IP belonged to Interplay and Bethesda have pretty much viciously bullied them out of it. Although a final ruling, it wasn't a just one.
this was my first, rather sarcastic thought.newwiseman said:So when is the Bethesda Fallout MMO coming out?
I wanted Interplay to go at it, because I didn't like how Bethesda was being a pain in the ass about it. For whatever reason, for whatever problems the whole thing created, I didn't like the idea of them fighting over it, and that they should've let Interplay go forward. The whole fight was pointless and stupid and I do not agree with the outcome. So yes, dark frigging day. Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to stew on that in peace.Sucal said:-Massive Snip-
brainslurper said:Enough of the original developers are at Obsidian that it is more like one parent taking the child because the other one has no money, and the child would have no future with them.
Never said it was bad for Fallout, I just said I feel sorry for the metaphorical parents here. It's pretty much 90% nostalgia talking here: I'm well aware pretty much everyone who made Interplay, well, Interplay have already moved on to other things. But still it's sad to see a brand I once saw as a sign of quality and integrity (This was a long time ago, alright?) being pushed around and having dirt smeared in its face.Sucal said:Using your metaphor, the parents have already moved on to obsidian, while their child was held hostage in the house they used to live in, with the parents prepared to leave them there. However child services (Betheseda) had a swat team (the laywers) go in, beat the door down and started shooting anyone who stopped them from rescuing the kids. Not only that, they've given the children everything they need to grow up and become successful in their own right, while even letting their neglectful parents take them on a pleasant vacation to their childhood neighbourhood, with the possibility for partial custody in the future.
cursedseishi said:I wondered how Masthead was doing - I don't play MMOs, although I suspected if Earthrise was doing well I would have heard about it. Hopefully they'll be able to salvage much of the work they did and convert it to Earthrise.The Random One said:Aye, and in the current state their game is in, Masthead wasn't doing much help I'd bet in proving that the Fallout MMO was a reality or even possibility. It sucks in a way, because I was looking forward to Earthrise back before its beta, and I always enjoyed Fallout, but seeing how Earthrise has suffered since release... yeah...
Depends. Bethesda probably wouldn't have pursued this lawsuit so vigorously if they weren't already planning on producing their own MMO. If they had jumped the gun on development even before they started thinking about the lawsuit, and it starts off as a relatively small-scale project with plans for expansion, it could be as little as 1-2 years. Otherwise, expect the normal development time for an MMO. For reference on how long that can take for a relatively high quality project, planning on The Old Republic and Rift both began as early as 2006.newwiseman said:So when is the Bethesda Fallout MMO coming out? I'll play it if it isn't a grind-fest.
To what end? Interplay died only to have a kazakhstani with no game development experience buy the name and pad his company entirely with artists and web developers so they can make official looking press releases and websites with absolutely nothing to back them up.Vault Citizen said:I feel that this is a shame, I was looking forward to the Fallout MMO and I feel bad that Interplay lost what little ownership to Fallout it had left. I find this especially sad since I was rooting for Interplay through the lawsuit and had hoped they would win.