My favourite is to pretend I'm masturbating a penis while the boss is delegating.albino boo said:Instead of interrupting and doing dramatic gestures, wait 30 seconds and then saying your point.
My favourite is to pretend I'm masturbating a penis while the boss is delegating.albino boo said:Instead of interrupting and doing dramatic gestures, wait 30 seconds and then saying your point.
I hate being interrupted. It is in fact, my single biggest social pet peeve. Now I understand that conversations are nebulous, and sometimes someone wants to finish a thought, and that's fine. But when you've clearly said your piece, and come to the end of a complete thought, and I begin to speak, and you interrupt me 3 times? Then I'm done talking to you about that subject. Sorry but no, if you can't shut the fuck up after 3 OBVIOUS attempts on my part to speak, then you clearly don't want to hear what I have to say on the subject. This is especially annoying when someone actually asks you a question, and then don't shut up long enough to let you speak. And I'm not subtle about it either, I will flat out tell you to your face that I'm done talking, because you wouldn't let me speak after 3 attempts to do so. And I have no guilt over it either.manic_depressive13 said:So I was just reading something about how rude and annoying people who interrupt other people are, when I suddenly realised something. I interrupt people. A lot.
However, the people I interrupt tend to fall into two categories: Over-explainers and argument-monoplisers.
An example of the former is when, after I ask a question, the over-explainer answers my question, but then just keeps fucking going. I am ready to move on to the next question, but they want to give five more examples all illustrating the same basic concept, or tell me tangentially related anecdotes. So I end up interrupting because I might forget my next question if I have to stand there for fifteen minutes pretending to give a shit.
The latter is someone who thinks having an argument means giving a speech. When I argue I like to make a concise point, then stop to see how my opponent will respond. Some people will respond by bringing up multiple points which I am apparently supposed to memorise in order to later debunk. In this case, I might interrupt in order to clarify a point instead of holding my breath while they go on a 10 minute spiel based on a premise I don't even agree with. This often leads to accusations that I am an asshole who interrupts others during arguments, even though I already listened to them talk for three minutes, whereas I summed up my own point in less than one.
The most infuriating thing is that, before interrupting, I will use frankly cartoonishly obvious body language to indicate that I want to say something, in order to give them an opportunity to wrap up and let me say my piece. And I just fucking get ignored! But then I'm still the asshole for interrupting, even though they are knowingly and deliberately monopolising the conversation.
So what do you think? Do I just need to be more patient? Do you interrupt people? Do you get interrupted? How do you feel about it?
If your boss comes at you with a list of things and you have counter-points, then yes if you can't memorize them you need to be writing them down. Taking notes is an effective way of keeping track of where a conversation goes as well as giving a list of points/counterpoints for both sides. If you learn your boss doesn't like to hear your counter-points, you're better off doing as your told (unless it's something illegal) or finding another job.albino boo said:You have to work out that you are not the most important person in the world and your opinion isn't any more valid than anyone else.
I was in a class with an instructor that was about to dismiss us for the day. I asked him a simple question that required a two or three sentence explanation. An hour later of him talking, he still had not answered my question! We never asked any questions after that because he always rambled.manic_depressive13 said:However, the people I interrupt tend to fall into two categories: Over-explainers and argument-monoplisers.
An example of the former is when, after I ask a question, the over-explainer answers my question, but then just keeps fucking going.
My wife argues like this! She'll get so angry with me for interrupting to ask a question or clarify something she has said and would rather I sit quietly and hold my thoughts and questions like she's on some reality TV confessional. It's infuriating because if I don't understand and need clarification or I have a problem with the first thing you said and you continue going, how can you even argue a point?manic_depressive13 said:The latter is someone who thinks having an argument means giving a speech. When I argue I like to make a concise point, then stop to see how my opponent will respond. Some people will respond by bringing up multiple points which I am apparently supposed to memorise in order to later debunk.
It's pretty much social suicide from college onward, or high school if you attend a halfway decent one, never mind work. If you're still the center of your own little universe by the time you're job hunting, you'd better hope you can do your job in a shack in Montana, or you're the next Steve Jobs.albino boo said:Well in my 20 years in the workplace and 10 years of running my own business no one who has behaved like that has lasted long. Hint interrupting your boss does not bode well for your long term job prospects. Fundamentally you are more likely to keep your job if you dont behave like a knob, regardless of where you work.Lil devils x said:That completely depends on what job he is expected to do. In some fields this is an asset, in others it is a hindrance as I stated above. It is all about the appropriateness of the situation.
Now the cartoonist body language or interrupting to shut them up is inappropriate no matter where it is I would think. People "monopolizing the conversation" is also considered " finishing what they have to say." I think sometimes people need to focus on what it is they are saying rather than trying to shut them up. LOL
Well, my job relies on knowing how to interrupt cusotmers. As a customer servce representative, to keep calls shorter and to the point, I'm expected to interrupt chatty customers and give them the pertinent instrucions quickly to improve their experience. Even when the cusotmer is angry, if possible, I have to interrupt to solve the issue as soon as I can. SO it does depend on the circumstances. The company doesn't want me or the cusotmer for 30 minutes if I have to pass them through another department, so interrupt him and send him on his way.albino boo said:You wont keep a job for long behaving like that. When jobs losses happen its the pains in the backside that get fired first, so its in your long term interest not to annoy everyone that you work with. You have to work out that you are not the most important person in the world and your opinion isn't any more valid than anyone elses. You are going to have spend 30 years in the workplace in the company of people that you wouldn't necessarily do by choice and you are going to have to adapt your behaviour to the expectations of others.
Are... are you me? Are we the same person in two different places?visiblenoise said:I just try not to talk to these two types of people you mention. My mom, however, is an over-explainer (in that typical parent fashion), and I interrupt her with abandon all the time because I can get away with it. I wouldn't do that to acquaintances though, I'd just sort of drift off and hope they see that they're losing me.
1. Yesmanic_depressive13 said:(1)Do I just need to be more patient? (2)Do you interrupt people? (3)Do you get interrupted? (4)How do you feel about it?
People often approach me in the street, asking for money for this or that cause. I will not sign up for anything without looking at all the details alone and I tell them this in no uncertain terms.Lil devils x said:LOL.. You can't be seriously accusing people of asking you for money before they do?! How many had no intention of asking you for money? Do you have people asking you for money so frequently that you have to do this? This is odd.Baffle said:That said, if I think someone is about to ask me for money (unless I'm in the process of making a purchase) I interrupt and say 'I'm going to stop you there for a moment; I'm not going to give you any money', then I just see how the conversation pans out.
I just can't imagine myself doing that to someone.. to just accuse them of asking me for money out of nowhere when they haven't done anything. LOL
I have seen this happen as well. Do not assume you understand what I have said, especially not before I have said it.sageoftruth said:One big problem I often see arise from interrupters is them assuming they already know what someone is trying to say, and then being wrong. Happens all the time at my company meetings. These interrupters have created an atmosphere where people feel the need to say everything as quickly as possible or they'll be interrupted.
I've seen some attempts at this (I'm just a fly on the wall during these meetings, so everyone else does the talking). Usually when someone makes an incorrect assumption, he or she is too caught up in explaining why the other person was wrong to hear anything he or she says back. If that's not the case, the person who made the false assumption usually ends up denying that it was a false assumption and accuses the other person of not listening. Even though I'm just watching from the sidelines, it drives me crazy.Corey Schaff said:If I interrupt someone, it's generally because I know what they're going to say next. If they get annoyed about that, it's either because I was incorrect, or because they feel insecure about being so easily predictable.
Otherwise as a good listener I feel I'm saving them time and effort by understanding what they're trying to say with less words than they would have otherwise have had to use.
Usually the people who are most often annoyed are the arguers, because I suspect it hurts their ego to think someone has already heard their "totally clever and original" arguments many times over.
A possible solution isn't to go say things more quickly, but to take the same amount of time saying them, and if they're continually interrupting you incorrectly, you say no, that's the Xth time you/people have been incorrect about where I was going.sageoftruth said:One big problem I often see arise from interrupters is them assuming they already know what someone is trying to say, and then being wrong. Happens all the time at my company meetings. These interrupters have created an atmosphere where people feel the need to say everything as quickly as possible or they'll be interrupted. Ironically, this leads to everything taking longer, because everyone's communication skills are running at half-mast while they hurry to get their words out as quickly as possible, leading to people constantly misinterpreting what everyone else intended to say and everyone repeating themselves over and over. It's a chaotic clusterfuck.
This is why I hate going to my meetings.
If you draw attention to it, you might make them more gun-shy.
1. Yes, most definitely. Particularly with the "cartoonish body language", which is absurdly rude. Listen, don't just wait breathlessly for your turn to talk.manic_depressive13 said:So what do you think? Do I just need to be more patient? Do you interrupt people? Do you get interrupted? How do you feel about it?
I have a debilitating speech impediment that makes it nearly impossible for me to have a verbal conversation. I suspect that I'm very different from the rest of you in that regard; free speech is not a privilege I've ever had.manic_depressive13 said:So what do you think? Do I just need to be more patient? Do you interrupt people? Do you get interrupted? How do you feel about it?
Hmm. Well I completely understand your frustration. Honestly I think maybe more patience is warranted for the over-explainers, that kind of thing is an honest mistake that seems like it has good intent. Mostly annoying in the time it takes. My mom is like that. I probably get annoyed by it more often than I should, but it seems more born out of a poor idea of what information is relevant.manic_depressive13 said:So I was just reading something about how rude and annoying people who interrupt other people are, when I suddenly realised something. I interrupt people. A lot.
However, the people I interrupt tend to fall into two categories: Over-explainers and argument-monoplisers.
An example of the former is when, after I ask a question, the over-explainer answers my question, but then just keeps fucking going. I am ready to move on to the next question, but they want to give five more examples all illustrating the same basic concept, or tell me tangentially related anecdotes. So I end up interrupting because I might forget my next question if I have to stand there for fifteen minutes pretending to give a shit.
The latter is someone who thinks having an argument means giving a speech. When I argue I like to make a concise point, then stop to see how my opponent will respond. Some people will respond by bringing up multiple points which I am apparently supposed to memorise in order to later debunk. In this case, I might interrupt in order to clarify a point instead of holding my breath while they go on a 10 minute spiel based on a premise I don't even agree with. This often leads to accusations that I am an asshole who interrupts others during arguments, even though I already listened to them talk for three minutes, whereas I summed up my own point in less than one.
The most infuriating thing is that, before interrupting, I will use frankly cartoonishly obvious body language to indicate that I want to say something, in order to give them an opportunity to wrap up and let me say my piece. And I just fucking get ignored! But then I'm still the asshole for interrupting, even though they are knowingly and deliberately monopolising the conversation.
So what do you think? Do I just need to be more patient? Do you interrupt people? Do you get interrupted? How do you feel about it?
Do you like... not get the difference between how people act in a job and the rest of their life? You put up with shit on the job you don't otherwise. I'm a hell of a lot more patient at work than I am here, for instance. I make sure to be friendly all the time regardless of my personal thoughts at work. And it works. People who irritate me to no end think I *like* them.albino boo said:You wont keep a job for long behaving like that. When jobs losses happen its the pains in the backside that get fired first, so its in your long term interest not to annoy everyone that you work with. You have to work out that you are not the most important person in the world and your opinion isn't any more valid than anyone elses. You are going to have spend 30 years in the workplace in the company of people that you wouldn't necessarily do by choice and you are going to have to adapt your behaviour to the expectations of others.
So it's not *you* that's the problem it's the other guy for trying to articulate their thoughts their own way and not precisely in the way that *you* would say it. Right. Gotcha.Corey Schaff said:If I interrupt someone, it's generally because I know what they're going to say next. If they get annoyed about that, it's either because I was incorrect, or because they feel insecure about being so easily predictable.
Otherwise as a good listener I feel I'm saving them time and effort by understanding what they're trying to say with less words than they would have otherwise have had to use.
Usually the people who are most often annoyed are the arguers, because I suspect it hurts their ego to think someone has already heard their "totally clever and original" arguments many times over.
I didn't want to interrupt.Baffle said:Jesus, you pause for a few seconds and someone jumps in there.
Well, that joke was a wasted effort.