If I was a politician I would actually use this game that basically says. "Iran will become a superpower" as a moral booster. Think about you are running a government that spends 90% of it's time oppressing it's people and demonizing the West (the West of course taking equal time to demonize Iran). How great would a game be made by the West in which you have taken over an area the size of the old Persian Empire?
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How about "The Death of Beer"?the clockmaker said:
A virus spreads out in Australia that kills every plant used in beer production. At the same time, the rest of the world, fearing that the same could happen to them, hoard their beer reserves, thus abandoning the australians to their cruel fate.
And, for a touch of awesome, the australian invasion of "those evil rest-of-the-world bastards" would feature genetically modified kangaroos, with computerized visors/helmets and laser rifles.
Try making Israel the bad guys and watch the resulting shitstorm.Vanitas likes Bubbles said:
I think Iran has kinda a point, and it's understandable they'd be upset at being portrayed like that, but dealing it with this is just wrong in so many ways.
Germany is constantly portrayed as the bad guys.Andy Chalk said:
But a big reason why you don't see many big games with US as the villain is because they, are a big part of the target audience, and if there are games where they are the bad guys, it's less likely you're ever going to hear about them because they aren't marketed to you.
Not just Iceland but many of the Central European countries too. No way could Poland or the Baltic States could be under Russian influence when the population is heavily anti-russian. That and they're already part of Nato.Hardcore_gamer said:
Tell that to the Afghanis / Iraqis / Iranians / Chinese. The Americans are no more the "good guys" than any of these people are "bad guys" -- I wish we could get away from this Manichean world view, things really aren't that simple.Andy Chalk said:
Perhaps there are too many individuals in the world to be able to transparently deal with each individual.MasterOfHisOwnDomain said:
Cue MLKjr's speech, "...judged not for...but on the content of their character." Applies across the board.
It should be said that "Bohemia Interactive" isn't just a regular games developer. They are a games developer that also has a division contracted by the United States Army to make "war simulators". The "simulations" are pretty much run the same as the engines from Arma or Operation Flashpoint.
What has the US Army been doing this past decade? Oh, invading middle-eastern countries. Yea.
Haven't seen many games in the US where a western nation is portrayed explicitly as the "bad guy". Involving modern-era (unchanged), and doesn't have some hokey dystopian sci-fi plot. Also "splinter-faction" conspiracy games don't count, we've had those for years. I'm talking "Imperialist Invasion" style games which is what the "bad guys" usually are in western shooters. Has that ever happened, in the history of ever, for modern gaming? Not that I can recall.
So while it may seem silly and fun to poo-poo Iran; it's also passé and makes you look culturally defunct. Iran isn't going to invade anyone. America and the "west" just may invade Iran and other countries. Total Orwellian language and disinformation here, time for you to decipher it and adapt.
What has the US Army been doing this past decade? Oh, invading middle-eastern countries. Yea.
Haven't seen many games in the US where a western nation is portrayed explicitly as the "bad guy". Involving modern-era (unchanged), and doesn't have some hokey dystopian sci-fi plot. Also "splinter-faction" conspiracy games don't count, we've had those for years. I'm talking "Imperialist Invasion" style games which is what the "bad guys" usually are in western shooters. Has that ever happened, in the history of ever, for modern gaming? Not that I can recall.
So while it may seem silly and fun to poo-poo Iran; it's also passé and makes you look culturally defunct. Iran isn't going to invade anyone. America and the "west" just may invade Iran and other countries. Total Orwellian language and disinformation here, time for you to decipher it and adapt.
So, I guess this explains the disinformation-slash-propaganda edge I've been picking up on from your articles lately...Andy Chalk said:
In the real-world, the US has killed hundreds-of-thousands of innocent civilians, in dozens of countries. Using various means; such as misguided munitions (or guided intentionally depending on your perspective), gunfire, drone-attacks, assassinations, etc.
In fact, the US is the capital of the first-world for exacting capital-punishment. This has been going on for quite some time. Don't even get me started on the US' fascination with internment/detainment... they're sort of the capital of that too... and they capitalize on it too.. on their own people even!!
Sleekit said:
that's utterly stupid. i know you have no idea of what is going on in Iran and all. and i say you would be surprised to find out what kind of gaming rigs you can find here. (a 4GB graphic is normal) yeah i know we are under sanctions but we have our ways!
Why is it that all 20 minutes into the future war shooters basically re-create the Cold war and make it go hot? Or they invent some fictional "bad guy" superpower country and pit it against the us. (Frankly, superpower Iran or North-Korea annexing china, or Russia helping itself to half of Europe like it ain't no thang are as fictional as the Galactic Empire). And then they pit them against the US.
If we're going with fiction, can't we have interesting fiction? Why not pit the US against the European Union? Or a European Union civil war. US against Canada. Australia against the World.
It's 2054, you're playing as a German peacekeeping Soldier in France after an invasion by the UK and the Netherlands to remove a fascist regime. You fight loyalist rebels, shit gets real, futuristic weapons, action and cheesy one-liners ensues.
If we're going with fiction, can't we have interesting fiction? Why not pit the US against the European Union? Or a European Union civil war. US against Canada. Australia against the World.
It's 2054, you're playing as a German peacekeeping Soldier in France after an invasion by the UK and the Netherlands to remove a fascist regime. You fight loyalist rebels, shit gets real, futuristic weapons, action and cheesy one-liners ensues.
Actually this is a gaming website and this is news of a country banning a game. That's why it is on here.Bhaalspawn said:
Go to a website where Christians setting a bus on fire is relevant to the site itself and it will be there. If they burnt down a gaming store because of some reason or another you can guarantee it'd be on the front of this site.
Of course they are, when you're speaking in broad geopolitical terms, which we are. In the simple "good guy/bad guy" context, Western democracies beat totalitarian dictatorships and primitive theocracies hands-down. Arguing otherwise is silly.MasterOfHisOwnDomain said:
Isn't that even worse? Taking real wars and making them entertainment with clearly defined good guys and bad guys?Andy Chalk said:
The Nazis might have been horrible, but the Germans were just people, and even people who did horrible things had a bit more complicated reasons for it than 'they were inhuman monsters'.
Ignoring the underlying reasons for why the Nazis got to power and why basically good people would stand by or do horrible things means you're not learning from the mistakes of history.
I generally don't like games where you kill normal humans, it makes me feel bad. (Unless it's over-the-top enough, like Saint's Row 2)