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The sequel to 2008's most surprisingly good movie, Jon Favreau's Iron Man 2 had quite a lot to live up to. The first Iron Man was just about the first Marvel film not featuring one of their AAA characters to have critical and commercial success, and so the pressure was on for the sequel to continue the winning streak. Fortunately, it doesn't disappoint. It's not better than the first film, and the moralising about the arms trade is all but gone, but it's still a thoroughly entertaining film and perfect summer blockbuster fare.

Don't let the title fool you: this film is, first and foremost, about Tony Stark, which is the way it should be. He is a very interesting character, and though everyone has said it hundreds of times, Robert Downey Jr. is brilliant as Stark. He gets to play up the idea of the drunken millionaire playboy a lot in this film, while still retaining the noble streak that allowed people to relate to him in the first one. Fortunately, Favreau is smart enough to keep him out of the suit for as much as possible, allowing us to relate to Stark the man, as opposed to Stark the hero. Joining him is a top-notch cast, with Mickey Rourke as Whiplash, Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, Gwyneth Paltrow returning as Pepper Potts, and Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer. Rourke is, unfortunately, somewhat underused and only has a few scenes of importance in the film, but his scenes are all good, and the cast all play their parts well. A particular favourite is Rockwell, who is wonderfully slimy as a business rival of Stark's who will do anything to get even with him. While having to recast a character often leads to problems, it does not in this case, with Don Cheadle, as Col. Rhodes/ War Machine, proving an excellent replacement for Terence Howard, able to trade one-liners with Downey Jr. as if he had been here the whole time.

The heart of the film remains the relationship between Pepper and Stark, with a very well-written and frequently extremely funny script giving a strong sense that these are real people on the screen. They care a great deal about each other, but bicker constantly nonetheless, with one particularly memorable argument occuring during the film's climactic fight scene. Speaking of fight scenes, ILM have done great work with the CG, with the fights being just as impressive as in the first film, the ones involving both Iron Man and War Machine being a particular favourite. That being said, it's a pity that the final fight sequence is ultimately little different from the one in the previous film: Iron Man vs. bigger Iron Man. Nonetheless, the fight with Whiplash at the Grand Prix is very impressive, with the briefcase that unfolds into a suit sure to prove very popular among fans. However, the most impressive fight is Black Widow's kung-fu sequence, made doubly so by the fact that Scarlett Johansson did all her stunts herself. And if you don't think "I want one" when you see War Machine's suit for the first time, there's something very wrong with you.

It's not a perfect film: there's none of the underlying message about arms dealing that pervaded the first one; the sequel is, arguably, more shallow than the original. And while it's nice that they're trying to expand the universe, at times it seems like they focus too much on setting up future films and not enough on developing this one. Black Widow is a particularly egregious case of this, since, in spite of her great fight sequence, she contributes very little to the plot, and amounts essentially to a walking teaser trailer for The Avengers. There's no denying that the brief appearance of Captain America's shield is a nice touch, however, and Samuel L. Jackson makes a very welcome return as Nick Fury, fortunately getting more than a cameo this time.

It's not a film that will stay with you for years afterwards, and it sure as hell won't result in any epiphanies: it's perfectly happy to be nothing more than a good, fun summer action movie. In this regard, while not perfect, it succeeds admirably, with sharp writing, likeable characters, and undeniably impressive action sequences. If you just want a good time at the cinema, you could do a whole lot worse than Iron Man 2.

NB: Everyone wants to get hold of the Iron Man suit for its weapons potential, but has no one noticed that Stark has a fully functional, sentient AI running his house? Surely this is the greater scientific breakthrough?
 

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If that bit with Cap's shield is from the stinger, please put it behind spoiler tags. Not everybody's seen/read about what happens after the credits.

Definitely makes me more excited to see the film this weekend. A photo or two would have livened things up. Other than that, good work.
 

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BlueInkAlchemist said:
If that bit with Cap's shield is from the stinger, please put it behind spoiler tags. Not everybody's seen/read about what happens after the credits.
It's not. The post-credits scene is something quite different...
 

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Agree almost completely!! This movie is fun fun fun, and the dialogs are really great. And I had no idea Johansson did her own stunts, that's impressive.

Only point is that more dealings with arms trade would have been too much. The first movie drove the point in very well, dwelling on it more would be tiring.
 

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kordan11 said:
Only point is that more dealings with arms trade would have been too much. The first movie drove the point in very well, dwelling on it more would be tiring.
I agree with you, it just would have been nice if the film had had some sort of message to it. As it is, it's unquestionably a very fun movie, I just wish it had something else going on. It's still a very good film, and like I said, it's as good as summer action movies get, so I can't complain too much.
 

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Anachronism said:
NB: Everyone wants to get hold of the Iron Man suit for its weapons potential, but has no one noticed that Stark has a fully functional, sentient AI running his house? Surely this is the greater scientific breakthrough?
The Suit. Basically turning a suitcase into a Armored battle ready super armor, with build in energy weapons, fully functioning computer, life support, fighter jet like engine and propulsion system, built in functionality, phone, black box and is link with the A.I. That just the movie, in the comic Tony develop a nanotech suit with all that and a direct link into his own brain so he can summon it at will. NANOTECH! He became his own goddamn armory!

You could also marvel on his UNLIMITED ENERGY GENERATOR that he have in is chest too.
 

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The Suit. Basically turning a suitcase into a Armored battle ready super armor, with build in energy weapons, fully functioning computer, life support, fighter jet like engine and propulsion system, built in functionality, phone, black box and is link with the A.I.
Obviously the suit is an astonishing piece of technology, I'm not denying that. I just think it's a little odd that no one seems to care that he's managed to create an AI. I think SHIELD would be particularly interested.
Akalistos said:
You could also marvel on his UNLIMITED ENERGY GENERATOR that he have in is chest too.
In all fairness, it's difficult and expensive to get the materials needed to power it, and said materials were also slowly killing him.
 

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Anachronism said:
It's not a perfect film: there's none of the underlying message about arms dealing that pervaded the first one; the sequel is, arguably, more shallow than the original.
I don't think Tony has a single scene the equal of his insisting in the first film that, for the first time in his life, he knows what he has to do. Nor the type of fear he shows during his captivity.

There is a political subtext to the film that parallels reality. Tony insists no US enemies are within a 1/2 decade or more of having similar technology. Then Whiplash nearly kicks his butt. Pakistan and India took us by surprise. We thought Iran gave up their program in 2004, etc.

I loved the way Whiplash is knocked out in the first fight. Spidey 2 loses points (though I love that movie) for having Doc get punched in his perfectly normal human face by someone with super strength, and he reacts as if he has been jabbed by a bantam weight.

The movie bogs at points. There is about a 10 minute, pointless scene with the strawberries for instance.

The subplot about his illness was about as captivating as Superman 4, where Supes' mom says, here, have this green thing in case you get into any trouble later in this movie.

But this is a Super Hero action movie. IMHO, the super hero stuff was better in this movie than the first. I thought the final fight with Iron Monger was Meh. This just had so much more. I too recommend this to fans of the genre.
 

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Anachronism said:
kordan11 said:
Only point is that more dealings with arms trade would have been too much. The first movie drove the point in very well, dwelling on it more would be tiring.
I agree with you, it just would have been nice if the film had had some sort of message to it. As it is, it's unquestionably a very fun movie, I just wish it had something else going on. It's still a very good film, and like I said, it's as good as summer action movies get, so I can't complain too much.
Is a message really necessary? Correction, is an obvious message necessary? I think there is a bit of a message here about how you should be more open with your problems instead of trying to take them on by yourself all the time. As we saw in the film, it led to a much more self-destructive Tony Stark prior to the lesson being learned. I think there is a message here, but it is subtle enough to not get in the way of the other stuff that is far more interesting.
 

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Akalistos said:
The Suit. Basically turning a suitcase into a Armored battle ready super armor, with build in energy weapons, fully functioning computer, life support, fighter jet like engine and propulsion system, built in functionality, phone, black box and is link with the A.I.
Obviously the suit is an astonishing piece of technology, I'm not denying that. I just think it's a little odd that no one seems to care that he's managed to create an AI. I think SHIELD would be particularly interested.
If you read anything on the subject, we are making giant leap in that domain. Sure, a fully operating A.I could benefit not just Homeland Security, but also the 911. Dispatching and sending the right amount of help needed to a situation would, in theory, ameliorate the service. The problem is that you can make a A.I. that respond to a certain situation but it isn't a real A.I. Best example is Prototype. In this game, you gain notoriety and the populace run from you. It all good and fun. Now pick up a tank and go in the street. The "A.I" in this respond like your on foot. Since the tank is about 2 lanes wide, the civilian, cars & soldier don't and will never evade properly. Which lead to one of it biggest flaw. At that point, Mercer wonder if he does some good while rescuing his sister in a tank. By the time i ended that mission, my casualty number jump a good 300 000 to 800 000. I can understand that the AI in IronMan can be more advance one, but i only see it respond to orders instead of actually taking decisions. If i would see it take a IronMan suit and get it to Tony in a jam without him asking (let say in that scenario he don't have the Iron Suit-Case)i would have no choice but to agree.

On a other topic; Did you see those tiny robot created to evolve? It not there yet, but i remember watching a show about some that could communicate and 4 out of 5 helped each other. The other one. He keep jumping down tables. The designer said he couldn't find any mechanical problem on it yet he still did it every time. Maybe we will see a something more on the line of A.I. the movie in the future.
 

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Something fun you can do is everytime you see an explosion take a drink of whatever your drinking, my friend went through a 32 oz bottle.
 

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Anachronism said:
Akalistos said:
The Suit. Basically turning a suitcase into a Armored battle ready super armor, with build in energy weapons, fully functioning computer, life support, fighter jet like engine and propulsion system, built in functionality, phone, black box and is link with the A.I.
Obviously the suit is an astonishing piece of technology, I'm not denying that. I just think it's a little odd that no one seems to care that he's managed to create an AI. I think SHIELD would be particularly interested.
Akalistos said:
You could also marvel on his UNLIMITED ENERGY GENERATOR that he have in is chest too.
In all fairness, it's difficult and expensive to get the materials needed to power it, and said materials were also slowly killing him.
Now that i saw Iron Man 2 i can see what your talking about. Its program feel and also act independently, commenting Stark on his Hearing in Washington. Now, maybe i'm bias toward the suit because i'll be much more happy to have the suit than the AI but i understand why you wonder why the AI isn't much more in demand.
 

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I'll be seeing this movie next weekend, seems like it'll be good fun.
 

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I didn't care for Iron Man 2, I must be honest.. it was mediochre at best, focussing almost entirely on the characterisation, with any reference to Iron Man doing his job being firmly in the sidelines..

I realise this will probably whirl up a load of fan defense with 'its meant to be about Tony Stark'.. but it overemphasises his character to such an extent that the film borders on boring for a large percentage.

The action is good, but the film as a whole is all over the place, balancing all the different characters, organisations and allusions to upcoming films.. its too much in too short a time span.

could have been so much better
 

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Anachronism said:
Akalistos said:
The Suit. Basically turning a suitcase into a Armored battle ready super armor, with build in energy weapons, fully functioning computer, life support, fighter jet like engine and propulsion system, built in functionality, phone, black box and is link with the A.I.
Obviously the suit is an astonishing piece of technology, I'm not denying that. I just think it's a little odd that no one seems to care that he's managed to create an AI. I think SHIELD would be particularly interested.
Akalistos said:
You could also marvel on his UNLIMITED ENERGY GENERATOR that he have in is chest too.
In all fairness, it's difficult and expensive to get the materials needed to power it, and said materials were also slowly killing him.
Yeah, but then he goes and CREATES A NEW ELEMENT
 

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Radelaide said:
Yeah, but then he goes and CREATES A NEW ELEMENT
Yes, he creates rediscovers a new element, but that was one of the film's weakest sequences, in my opinion. The sudden revelation that his father had not only managed to create a new element that would do exactly what Stark needed it to do, but also left him a guide on how to find it, was nothing more than a straight up deux ex machina.
 

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Anachronism said:
Radelaide said:
Yeah, but then he goes and CREATES A NEW ELEMENT
Yes, he creates rediscovers a new element, but that was one of the film's weakest sequences, in my opinion. The sudden revelation that his father had not only managed to create a new element that would do exactly what Stark needed it to do, but also left him a guide on how to find it, was nothing more than a straight up deux ex machina.
Hey, a little Deus Ex never goes astray!