Is Archery the new thing?

Recommended Videos

DoPo

"You're not cleared for that."
Jan 30, 2012
8,663
0
0
Sean Hollyman said:
DoPo said:
Sean Hollyman said:
DoPo said:
Sean Hollyman said:
DoPo said:
Sean Hollyman said:
I'm not good at archery, but I won't bow down to those who are.

And I'm not going to be strung along by the media, I hate it.
You mean, you don't think those guys should be calling the shots? Yeah, I agree with that.
Can't tell if really good counter-pun or serious..

>_>


Yes, I'm not exactly comfortable with some guy with a bow pulling the strings.
Is that Dora the Explorer?

If it is, I'm bolting it.
I'd say it's her, but it's a shot in the dark.

But anyway, if you're with me, enlisting others, so we can fight these archers who menace in the media. Quite frankly, I quiver at the thought of them.
We could try to, but it would be a bit of a hit and miss.

Damnit I'm running out here..
Well, we must always aim high.

(Me, too. Maybe we should stop before we shoot ourselves in the foot.)
 

Sean Hollyman

New member
Jun 24, 2011
5,175
0
0
DoPo said:
Sean Hollyman said:
DoPo said:
Sean Hollyman said:
DoPo said:
Sean Hollyman said:
DoPo said:
Sean Hollyman said:
I'm not good at archery, but I won't bow down to those who are.

And I'm not going to be strung along by the media, I hate it.
You mean, you don't think those guys should be calling the shots? Yeah, I agree with that.
Can't tell if really good counter-pun or serious..

>_>


Yes, I'm not exactly comfortable with some guy with a bow pulling the strings.
Is that Dora the Explorer?

If it is, I'm bolting it.
I'd say it's her, but it's a shot in the dark.

But anyway, if you're with me, enlisting others, so we can fight these archers who menace in the media. Quite frankly, I quiver at the thought of them.
We could try to, but it would be a bit of a hit and miss.

Damnit I'm running out here..
Well, we must always aim high.

(Me, too. Maybe we should stop before we shoot ourselves in the foot.)
Or the knee, we wouldn't want anything stopping our adventures now would we..
 

Jodah

New member
Aug 2, 2008
2,280
0
0
Skipper zammo said:
LetalisK said:
Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.
You do realise that hardly anyone today knows the slightest thing about archery technique right?

So while can understand people who do practice archery getting a little bothered by mistakes shown on film. But surely they must realise that it's never going to be a priority for film makes to spend base their casting of a role on an actors archery ability. something that only a most minute part of their audience is going to notice and that part shouldn't really care.

And regardless of how skilled any of those actors are, it's obviously going to help bring a lot more people into the hobby.
Yeah but there's a certain degree of care that should be given, even if it's not perfect. Take, for example, the pictures listed in the OP. When the chick releases that arrow in the first picture she is going to shred her hand from the fletchings, the arrow is going to go maybe 3 feet, and it is going to go in a random direction. The rest are, at least, passable in terms of technique. Not perfect but not terrible.

The problem is there needs to be some degree of accuracy because there ARE people that will mimic the film exactly. Look at all the tools that pick up a gun after playing CoD and have never held one before. Half of them almost kill someone.
 

Thaluikhain

Elite Member
Legacy
Jan 16, 2010
20,165
4,518
118
Hazy992 said:
I don't think Hawkeye's a particularly good example. He's always used a bow and arrow in the comics, it just so happens the Avengers came out this year.
No, that was the original Green Lantern.

But yeah, eh. Maybe a bit more archery than "normal", but not that big a difference.
 

mad825

New member
Mar 28, 2010
3,379
0
0
Maybe.

Fairly recently, my club has been overran with new people although not many of them were happy of having to wait to collect the arrows.
 

BabySinclair

New member
Apr 15, 2009
934
0
0
YingDerpington said:
LetalisK said:
Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.
Sweet Jesus... I saw Hunger Games a while back, I regret that immensely, but more importantly, Holy shit you're right, Neither of her hands are doing anything remotely correct in terms of archery. The hand on the string looks like she's got 3 fingers underneath (which is all well and good despite the fact that the pinkie isn't meant to be one of the 3) but what the hell is she doing with her thumb and index finger touching the top of the darn arrow? And her hand on the actual bow isn't much better, she's guaranteed to send the arrow way off course.
Um..... archery instructor here, few things. Three underneath is a technique that is actually taught, not that often mind you, but is a basic string technique. The pinkie, well, sometimes it's on the string, sometimes it's not. Also something that some archers need to do if they have problems pulling back the bowstring.

As for the other hand, lacking a notch or arrow rest, you have to use your own fingers to guide the arrow, this if from experience. I've shot like that fine with a 40lb bow that didn't have an arrow rest and no notch. Takes some adjustment and practice but that's what archers used to do most the time. They may have a slight notch to make it easier to keep it in place and standardize their shots some but it was a necessary technique.
 

Doclector

New member
Aug 22, 2009
5,006
0
0
Hawkolf said:
I never noticed that ô_o I've been arching, wait no... Archering, done archery, arc- SHOT ARROWS, for about 10 years now and it is cool for it to get some light. Plus, I love shooting arrows in FPS. Archery in Skyrim was a lot of fun. They could do more of that.
Yeah, it was awesome, and at first, I dismissed it based on how incredibly useless archery was in oblivion, but soon I came to realise that archery is actually one of the most powerful skills in the game, and now most of my characters use it to some extent, even my tanking orc loves to "shoot da pointy stiks at da humies", especially with dawnguard adding crossbows into the mix.

I dunno, archery has been cool for a while, especially in videogames. Hell, it was even cool in the turok reboot. Maybe it's more that bow-weilding protagonists have become cool in less-geek-orientated media too recently.
 

HellsingerAngel

New member
Jul 6, 2008
602
0
0
Oh. My. God...

At this rate, Native Americans might actually become the next space marines!


Gotta love Turok logic. "Sup dude, you're an Indian. Clearly you'll kill better with a bow!"
 

YingDerpington

New member
Apr 23, 2012
201
0
0
BabySinclair said:
YingDerpington said:
LetalisK said:
Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.
Sweet Jesus... I saw Hunger Games a while back, I regret that immensely, but more importantly, Holy shit you're right, Neither of her hands are doing anything remotely correct in terms of archery. The hand on the string looks like she's got 3 fingers underneath (which is all well and good despite the fact that the pinkie isn't meant to be one of the 3) but what the hell is she doing with her thumb and index finger touching the top of the darn arrow? And her hand on the actual bow isn't much better, she's guaranteed to send the arrow way off course.
Um..... archery instructor here, few things. Three underneath is a technique that is actually taught, not that often mind you, but is a basic string technique. The pinkie, well, sometimes it's on the string, sometimes it's not. Also something that some archers need to do if they have problems pulling back the bowstring.

As for the other hand, lacking a notch or arrow rest, you have to use your own fingers to guide the arrow, this if from experience. I've shot like that fine with a 40lb bow that didn't have an arrow rest and no notch. Takes some adjustment and practice but that's what archers used to do most the time. They may have a slight notch to make it easier to keep it in place and standardize their shots some but it was a necessary technique.
My apologies for the inaccuracies, just basing most of it what I was taught over several years of archery, but yeah I only have experience with the one kind, that was with Recurve bows that had an arrow rest, I was taught the 3 fingers underneath but the pinkie was kinda useless in it. and with the hand on the actual bow, i'm still kind of confused about her index finger placement, it seems like her fingers would be touching some of the feather(right word to use for it?)
 

LetalisK

New member
May 5, 2010
2,769
0
0
JoesshittyOs said:
LetalisK said:
Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.
It's not like there's only one way to hold a bow. There's lots of different techniques in the world.
Edit, nm, refer to BabySinclair. Clearly he's seen it before.
 

Dirzzit

New member
Apr 16, 2009
309
0
0
Well, I've been shooting for 8 years so Im kinda glad. I hopre more people get into it because of all the movies.
 

Cowabungaa

New member
Feb 10, 2008
10,804
0
0
Heronblade said:
Archery has been a part of our media for quite a while, and with good reason. There's nothing particularly new about this trend.
It hasn't really been as mainstream as it is now though, especially thanks to the Hunger Games and The Avengers.

My own archery club did say that archery is getting a lot more popular the last few months. I haven't asked why they think that is, but I wouldn't be surprised if they point to popular media for an explanation.

As for me, I wanted to start with archery way before The Avengers or anything like that. I just picked a lousy time to actually start.
 

Mau95

Senior Member
Nov 11, 2011
347
0
21
Archery's always been a thing. It's been around for thousands of years with a cult following.

"the full monty"

no wait, "harp on"
 

Excludos

New member
Sep 14, 2008
353
0
0
I think archery is awesome and love that its getting more attention.
Archery does actually have some uses in modern day combat, besides being silent, it also penetrates kevlar a lot easier than bullets. While I doubt its actually being used by anyone because of the massive drawbacks (way harder to learn, tends to be quite huge, cumbersome to carry, only one shot at the time, not as long range, etc), its still cool to see in movies and games.
 

Alssadar

Senior Member
Sep 19, 2010
809
0
21
Technically speaking, archery isn't a new thing... they've been around for a couple thousand years *Bud-dum, ch!*
Nonetheless, bows look cool. They're simple, they're antique, and unique--many people can shoot guns, but how many can shoot arrows? That's right, not a lot (Unless you're playing Mount and Blade on Siege...annoying buggers are everywhere). Bows take practice to work correctly and hit a target, while you can fire a gun incorrectly but still hit a guy. There's this arch in archery, while bullets are straight projectiles. As for the characters themselves, it makes them look more elegant in comparison to a gun, as it's a quiet, accuracy-based weapon instead of a possible spray and pray.
Captcha: Gadzooks! Better get knee protection
 

Gennadios

New member
Aug 19, 2009
1,156
0
0


This guy was doing it before Bows in FPS games were cool. Don't even have to photoshop the hipster glasses.
 

Broady Brio

New member
Jun 28, 2009
2,783
0
0
I've tried to shoot an arrow once. NEVER AGAIN.

Archery is definitley something you can't just "pick up."
 

SckizoBoy

Ineptly Chaotic
Legacy
Jan 6, 2011
8,678
200
68
A Hermit's Cave
Esotera said:
It's really not that hard to hold a bow in the correct position, it'd take them maybe 5 minutes with an archery professional to get the pose, and maybe a day firing at targets to be good at it. For something with a budget like the Hunger Games, that's nothing.
Uh, actually, it kind of is... hell, even some long-time archers get it wrong in certain ways. However, these shortcomings are generally well compensated for (i.e. hidden) by the low-poundage of the bows used (so that the actor can maintain full-draw and/or theatrical necessities/licence taken).

JoesshittyOs said:
It's not like there's only one way to hold a bow. There's lots of different techniques in the world.
True, but there are several tenets that hold true regardless of 'school of archery', failure of adherence typically leading to a fucked shoulder or two. Media representations typically skirt over this for reasons already alluded to plus the fact that it's too much of a chore to get it right.

YingDerpington said:
Sweet Jesus... I saw Hunger Games a while back, I regret that immensely, but more importantly, Holy shit you're right, Neither of her hands are doing anything remotely correct in terms of archery. The hand on the string looks like she's got 3 fingers underneath (which is all well and good despite the fact that the pinkie isn't meant to be one of the 3) but what the hell is she doing with her thumb and index finger touching the top of the darn arrow? And her hand on the actual bow isn't much better, she's guaranteed to send the arrow way off course.
I read the first couple sentences and went back to look at that pic... and by god what the fuck is she doing?! Her right hand's fine, but she's clearly not anchoring. And as for the left hand, I think it's a full-draw PHAIL, as her nock-side fingers have pushed the arrow off the rest and that picture was taken as the arrow was dropping behind her left hand. Least that's really what it looks like.

ReadyAmyFire said:
I love my little carbine.
... uh, are you a dragoon or something?! -_-

Daystar Clarion said:
We were doing bows before all yo' suckers!
LOL, the difference being that IRL Robin Hood actually sucked as an archer... would've barely scraped Third Class GNAS by modern standards! =P

OT: Yeah, I'll go with the above...

Still, I'll add my grievances that when compound archery is portrayed... no release aids, never any fucking release aids!!

And recurve archery, I'm too accustomed to hearing clicks... there're never any clickers shown. A good short deserves to be preceded by a *click*!!

Having said that, Orlando Bloom did it pretty convincingly.
 

subtlefuge

Lord Cromulent
May 21, 2010
1,106
0
0
LetalisK said:
Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.
Not nearly as bad as Marvel's greatest archer needing 2 more armguards than most people who have taken a handful of archery classes a single archery class. At least the Hunger Games chick has an excuse, with weapon training being illegal and all.

Still, it's all awful.



Just turn your fucking elbow Renner. Geez.