i agree with Hazy, sides, 1 law suit? and 1 over priced DLC pack? really? come on, two incidents do not an evil company makeHazy992 said:
i also agree with Hazy in terms of his title, takes a secure man to ware pink
Is Bethesda becoming another EA?
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i also agree with Hazy in terms of his title, takes a secure man to ware pink
Apples and oranges. The "Scrolls" lawsuit and Dawnguard fiasco are small beans compared to the garbage other developers have done in the past.
Although, I thought Bethesda learned their lesson after the Horse Armor fiasco.
Although, I thought Bethesda learned their lesson after the Horse Armor fiasco.
To be fair, Bethesda had to sue Mojang over trade mark infringement or risk not being able to do so again. Thats how trade marks work. Bethesda is even on record for saying they didnt want to be forced into that lawsuit but the fact was the people that handle trademarks said it had to be done if they wanted to continue owning their Elder scrolls trademark. Its a stupid law but its still the lawAccountfailed said:
Now with DLC, its my opinion that generally Bethesda gives the best bang for your buck in the DLC market. They have always been more like expansion packs rather then little DLC bits you get from other developers. Dawnguard was the same. Having played it I personally dont think Dawnguard is worth $20 but it still added some interesting bits to the game. For me Dawnguards failing was how vampirism is not really a curse, Its very similar to Twilights style of vampires where you get a bunch of power with no curse and that goes against the very idea of vampire folklore. Still it came with big ideas and while I dont think that $20 is worth this DLC neither do I think them asking for $20 is outrageous (especially considering the state of our economy)
Personally I dont think they are acting anything like EA. I dont see massive lay offs to make them look better to share holders. I dont see them buying out companies and running them into the ground. I dont see them pulling their games from digital distribution platforms and forcing gamers to use their brand of spyware to play them. I dont see them whining like a petulant child that no one uses their services.
So no I dont think theyre acting anything like EA
Accountfailed said:
........Seriously?
EA is like the Galactic Empire of the gaming industry, and that's putting it nicely, Bethesda are no where near EA in terms of greed/stupidity/ignorance.
Bethesda may of done a couple of stupid things, but pretty much every company on earth has done that. EA on the other hand does at least 3 stupid things every few weeks, and continue to do so.
Pretty sure every company is doing shotty business practices like EA. EA just does it the most. Just wish more people would do something about it.
Depends on how big and awesome dawnguard is, it might be worth the 20 dollars, and we know it isn't made up of important elements cut from the game a la me3
I am not buying it. EA is evil if they offer something that is worth significantly less for more money AND give no alternatives. If they want to cash in on the idiots with more money than brains, that is fine.Draech said:
Even with Dawnguard at 20 dollars, it WILL go on sale just like other bethesda expansions. So even if the price irkes you, there are alternatives other than never buying it. I will probably never buy EA or activision DLC because most of the time they are a blatant ripoff meant to squeeze every ounce of money from their loyal fans with absolutely no regard to their image.
course, by your logic a company can never do anything evil. If a company released a game for full price with over half of its content locked that you have to shell out 60 dollars more....well by golly you can just say nay!
also, i could have easily reported you for implying that i do not have a brain. I wont because it would serve no real purpose. But there are other posters on these forums who would start a crusade against you for such demeaning behavior.
Bethesda has a publishing company? I was certain that Zenimax was their parent corp. No, Bethesda is just like Bioware. A company who has made pretty amazing games and might be corrupted by the gamble of making their most beloved franchise into a MMO.
That said, EA is no worse than any other big corporation. I'll still buy Bioware's games, regardless of who owns them.
That said, EA is no worse than any other big corporation. I'll still buy Bioware's games, regardless of who owns them.
No... just no. Bethesda has made a couple of missteps, but they haven't fallen off a cliff just yet.
Sure why not. I honestly believe with how tightly gamers hold grudges eventually every company will make a few mistakes and they will all be labeled 'EA bad'. Maybe after that happens we can stop taking potshots at companies because everyone will see them as equally bad.
I swear, EA is the gaming equivalent of Hitler. Not in the sense that they are the worst person you could name, but every negative comparison seems to go to them. there needs to be some sort of Godwin's Law based on them, and I demand it be named after me.Accountfailed said:
"Oh shit, someone did something bad, it's like EA!"
EA eats sugar. Let's go there.
Moving on:
They released what looks to be a beefy expansion to an already full and complete game that posesses a huge fanbase that will attest to the replay value and length of the game. In addition to releasing a full game, they did not release Day 1 DLC cut from the main game or include on-disk content unlocked for a fee (to my knowledge) or via online pass. Their EA-like DLC is priced somewhere between their non-EA DLC releases for TES IV, which was also not EA-like if we are to believe there is some progression here.
Yes, it's like looking at the horrific spectre of EA.
I'm not a fan of this lawsuit but there's a decent chance they were legitimately trying to protect their intellectual property.
Which is why their attitude towards combating piracy and used games has been "make games people want to play," rather than "Day 1 DLC, constant packs and online passes!"
Yeah, I'm not even a Bethesda fan and I think this is nowhere near the mark.
Hey, didn't you hear? Valve is now selling DLC, so they must be JUST LIKE HIT...I mean, EA!!!!Jove said:
I don't feel like you read the OP. At all. He didn't blame EA, he just said Bethesda is being like them.Hazy992 said:
Which is entirely ridiculous in its own right. Firstly, their legal team had more reasons than a word being in common, something Notch neglects to mention. Secondly, this is an entire expansion pack. It adds an entire extra storyline to play through, new areas, weapons and items. Whether you think it's a quality expansion or not, $20 dollars is a reasonable price for an expansion. If you don't think so, then don't buy it. If you want it but still think $20 is unreasonable, then wait until the bloody price drops.
As far as I've seen, Bethesda's not been taking developers and bleeding them dry, so comparing Bethesda at all to EA is laughable at best.
Yeah but while Elder Scrolls DLC have been more expansion based and few and far between, Fallout 3 has had more often DLC with less content.natster43 said:
Todd Howard said something about this along the lines of "When developing DLC for Fallout 3 everything was hectic in the office... we want to make Skyrim DLC more like Expansions with only there being two or three."
