Is Doom the only gaming franchise where each and every game is Masterpiece?

[Hawki]

I never understood Doom 3 hate. sure it was not carbon copy of Doom 1 and 2. but it was everything a good FPS needed. it was dark, atmospheric and only Doom game that feel immersive.

it was almost as good as Half life 2 back in 2004. the flashlight mechanics really worked.

Much as I love D3, I can understand the dislike it gets in that it's such a departure from the games up to that point. I'd still maintain it's a good game in its own right though.

 

[SckizoBoy]

The big titles by Paradox Interactive... oh wait, they're strategy games, they don't count... do they?(!)

Personally, I don't think any substantial franchise has an all 'masterpiece' game list... screw that no franchise really has an all 'good' game list.

KotOR is marred by tOR and 2's bugs
ME is marred by ME:A (and 3 for some)
Witcher is marred by 1 (being an SP MMORPG and the fucking sex collectible cards)
AC is marred by... the sheer opportunity Ubisoft gave for shooting themselves in the foot (repeatedly)
TW is marred by Attila and ToB (and others depending on how harsh you want to be)
DE is marred by IW (and MD for a lot... it was huge step back from HR IMO at least)
HoI is marred by the various shitstorms it generated and 1 being kinda crap
DoW is marred by Soulstorm's utter lack of balance and polish, 2 being divisive and 3 being shit

Leaving EU (Paradox's Europa Universalis), which is consistently well received by audience and critics alike, including their spinoff titles (Rome/Victoria etc.).

But w/e...

In any event, I fail to see how Doom deserves any sort of 'masterpiece' tag... it's an FPS... you shoot shit, which is fine, but it's visceral, not cerebral, lacking any and all narrative.

But what do I know, I play strategy games, so fuck my opinion...

 

[Hawki]

screw that no franchise really has an all 'good' game list.

-Advance Wars

-Diablo

-Golden Sun

-StarCraft

Yes, I'm repeating itself, but if we want a franchise where every entry is at least "good," then that shouldn't be too hard to do.

 

[Bombiz]

screw that no franchise really has an all 'good' game list.

-Advance Wars

-Diablo

-Golden Sun

-StarCraft

Yes, I'm repeating itself, but if we want a franchise where every entry is at least "good," then that shouldn't be too hard to do.

you seriously gonna sit there and cite diablo when diablo 3 exists? not to mention that doom resurrection and doom 3 resurrection of evil exist so already the base claim is false.

 

[Hawki]

you seriously gonna sit there and cite diablo when diablo 3 exists?

Considering that D3 is generally well regarded these days, and is my favourite in the series...yes?

 

[CaitSeith]

I never understood Doom 3 hate. sure it was not carbon copy of Doom 1 and 2. but it was everything a good FPS needed. it was dark, atmospheric and only Doom game that feel immersive.

it was almost as good as Half life 2 back in 2004. the flashlight mechanics really worked.

I was kinda disappointed the plot didn't happen at Deimos, or that there was no chunk of Phobos floating over Hell. The same goes for Doom 4.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

The big titles by Paradox Interactive... oh wait, they're strategy games, they don't count... do they?(!)

Personally, I don't think any substantial franchise has an all 'masterpiece' game list... screw that no franchise really has an all 'good' game list.

KotOR is marred by tOR and 2's bugs
ME is marred by ME:A (and 3 for some)
Witcher is marred by 1 (being an SP MMORPG and the fucking sex collectible cards)
AC is marred by... the sheer opportunity Ubisoft gave for shooting themselves in the foot (repeatedly)
TW is marred by Attila and ToB (and others depending on how harsh you want to be)
DE is marred by IW (and MD for a lot... it was huge step back from HR IMO at least)
HoI is marred by the various shitstorms it generated and 1 being kinda crap
DoW is marred by Soulstorm's utter lack of balance and polish, 2 being divisive and 3 being shit

Leaving EU (Paradox's Europa Universalis), which is consistently well received by audience and critics alike, including their spinoff titles (Rome/Victoria etc.).

But w/e...

In any event, I fail to see how Doom deserves any sort of 'masterpiece' tag... it's an FPS... you shoot shit, which is fine, but it's visceral, not cerebral, lacking any and all narrative.

But what do I know, I play strategy games, so fuck my opinion...

Honestly I?d play TOR before I played either KOTOR game because it is at least playable without some severe hoop jumping. That said I?d give a remaster of both games a red hot go.

 

[Chewster]

Masterpiece is a bit much. Incredibly fun and maybe graphically impressive for when they came out and hell, I'll even give you a groundbreaking for the first one but they ain't exactly Tarkovsky, all-star.

Also, Doom 3's guns sounded like pellet guns. Dunno why, but it always annoyed me how piss weak they sounded.