Is it ever okay to camp?
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It's always a legitimate strategy, but it always makes people mad. Whether you're properly defending an objective, sniping, or just getting cheap kills by hiding in a corner, people will ***** you out.
I personally don't camp because it's boring. I can barely even snipe in MW2 without getting bored and rushing with my sidearm.
I personally don't camp because it's boring. I can barely even snipe in MW2 without getting bored and rushing with my sidearm.
with a sniper yes what the fuck do you expect them to do? a sniper cant just rush into a crowd of enemies
with everything else no all your doing by camping is taking away from the game, and let me clarify something camping and defending a position are different:
sitting in the corner of a room waiting for someone to walk into that room is camping, just waiting for somebody to walk by and then shooting them in the back is camping
shooting from a window to try and keep the other guys from getting close is not camping, just trying to hold your ground is not camping
the difference is clear and your either lieing or blissfully ignorant if you cant see it
with everything else no all your doing by camping is taking away from the game, and let me clarify something camping and defending a position are different:
sitting in the corner of a room waiting for someone to walk into that room is camping, just waiting for somebody to walk by and then shooting them in the back is camping
shooting from a window to try and keep the other guys from getting close is not camping, just trying to hold your ground is not camping
the difference is clear and your either lieing or blissfully ignorant if you cant see it
To answer your first question:Assassin Xaero said:
Camping is a viable strategy. A strategy is a plan to achieve an objective. Per en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy : "Strategy refers to a plan of action designed to achieve a particular goal." Camping is a way to achieve a higher Kill/Death ratio. While not socially acceptable, it is still a worthwhile strategy for some players.
To answer your second question:
And no I'm not trolling. I'm seriously confused as to what martyrdom, the sacrificing of one's self for a particular belief has to do with a modern FPS.
You hear people complain about someone camping when their team is a mess. A sniper can only kill one guy at a time-If he is a real problem (Hiding in a corner with 20 kills and 2 deaths), get one guy to distract him and have another pick him off. Basic teamwork that is almost never used. If he's not in a corner, he can be flanked if you know you're way around the map and if he's not too bright, he'll keep going back to that spot, where you can flank him again. I once got 11 kills from a sniper on Combat Arms who kept going back to the same spot.
Is it ever okay? Yes, of course it is, it's a legitimate strategy, but it does have its flaws, which can be exploited.
Is it ever okay? Yes, of course it is, it's a legitimate strategy, but it does have its flaws, which can be exploited.
It's been said a few times already.
But yes, depending on the situation camping is a perfectly acceptable strategy.
For example if you're a dedicated Sniper. That's the whole point of sniping, to camp in one spot and pick off the enemies at a distance. If you aren't camping to some degree then you're crap as a sniper.
Same can be said for objective defending.
I get harped on a lot in the WoW battlegrounds for trying to defend objectives instead of running around like a lunatic attacking everything that moves.
At one point I even had to defend myself against one of the Mods saying that they had received several complaints about my camping.
Once again, if you're just hanging out at a spawn point and gunning down everything that pops up...well then you're just being a douche.
But yes, depending on the situation camping is a perfectly acceptable strategy.
For example if you're a dedicated Sniper. That's the whole point of sniping, to camp in one spot and pick off the enemies at a distance. If you aren't camping to some degree then you're crap as a sniper.
Same can be said for objective defending.
I get harped on a lot in the WoW battlegrounds for trying to defend objectives instead of running around like a lunatic attacking everything that moves.
At one point I even had to defend myself against one of the Mods saying that they had received several complaints about my camping.
Once again, if you're just hanging out at a spawn point and gunning down everything that pops up...well then you're just being a douche.
what is and isn't camping
isn't:
1.finding a good sniping location using once or twice and then taking a new position
2.defending an objective
3.capturing an objective
4. noticing that just around the corner someone is coming and waiting so you can get the first shot in and then continuing what your where doing before hand.
is:
1.staying in one location where you can't get killed unless by someone really skilled with grenades
2.going into a room with only one entrance and keeping your cross aim aimed at it
3.using an incredibly overpowered weapon an doing point 1. or 2.
4.keeping your cross aim aimed at a spawn point
5.going on holiday in the wilderness and sleeping in a tent
apart from point 5. camping is not a legitimate tactic and hear are the reasons why:
1.the dictionary definition of tactic 'a plan, procedure, or expedient for promoting a desired end or result.' sitting in a corner and shooting anyone you see is not a tactic.
2.if everyone did it in a game the game would be no fun.
3.if you are like me I presume that someone won't camp because if they do they are a dick meaning that I will go past there camping spawn again due to that or a heated battle and they will kill me making it an incredible pain in the butt.
4.new people to gaming will be discouraged from games if they meet campers because they don't know what a camper is, how to tell whether someone is a camper and what to do about a camper.
5.it's cheap. saying using a weapon which has a 100% chance of killing someone is a legitimate tactic would be stupid because it takes no skill to use it and it takes no skill to be a camper apart from patients.
isn't:
1.finding a good sniping location using once or twice and then taking a new position
2.defending an objective
3.capturing an objective
4. noticing that just around the corner someone is coming and waiting so you can get the first shot in and then continuing what your where doing before hand.
is:
1.staying in one location where you can't get killed unless by someone really skilled with grenades
2.going into a room with only one entrance and keeping your cross aim aimed at it
3.using an incredibly overpowered weapon an doing point 1. or 2.
4.keeping your cross aim aimed at a spawn point
5.going on holiday in the wilderness and sleeping in a tent
apart from point 5. camping is not a legitimate tactic and hear are the reasons why:
1.the dictionary definition of tactic 'a plan, procedure, or expedient for promoting a desired end or result.' sitting in a corner and shooting anyone you see is not a tactic.
2.if everyone did it in a game the game would be no fun.
3.if you are like me I presume that someone won't camp because if they do they are a dick meaning that I will go past there camping spawn again due to that or a heated battle and they will kill me making it an incredible pain in the butt.
4.new people to gaming will be discouraged from games if they meet campers because they don't know what a camper is, how to tell whether someone is a camper and what to do about a camper.
5.it's cheap. saying using a weapon which has a 100% chance of killing someone is a legitimate tactic would be stupid because it takes no skill to use it and it takes no skill to be a camper apart from patients.
I normally get killed by campers because:Serenegoose said:
1. they generally use weapons that kill you in less then 1sec
2. it has been 2min since they killed me so I don't think they will be in the same location because I trust people not to camp
3. they normally only have one path to them that isn't littered with traps and give away you are coming to them so the other path just has their cross eye aimed at it
4. they camp in places where it is very hard to throw a grenade in at the right angle
5. they normally hide where you most likely walk past.
6. games that normally have campers *cough* MW2 *cough* will have multiple campers and it's hard to go anywhere where there isn't a camper.
also I have made a list of what is and isn't camping which I am going to edit in a second.
There's unbalanced ways to camp and unbalanced ways to counter campers. MW2 compared to MW1 is broken enough to actually be more balanced when countering fags.GamesB2 said:
Please, next time, use paragraphs.flaming_ninja said:
Besides, how about letting me play like I want? You have an opinion. That is fine.
I like roleplaying in FPS games, you don't. Not much to discuss here.
It is NEVER the opposing players fault for camping.
If it's possible in game -- it's legitimate.
If the level caters to campers -- Pick a different level.
If the game is imbalanced in favor of campers -- Play a better FPS.
If the entire other team is camping -- Play a game mode that requires movement.
(The best teams are ones that have a variety of player styles that complement each other.)
Spawn camping IS a bad thing, but it's the games and levels that need to be designed to avoid this. (Random spawning, no campable areas near spawn points, short invincibility upon re-spawning, etc)
If your own team members aren't playing as a team for ANY reason (including camping) then you have every right to tell them to change.
If it's possible in game -- it's legitimate.
If the level caters to campers -- Pick a different level.
If the game is imbalanced in favor of campers -- Play a better FPS.
If the entire other team is camping -- Play a game mode that requires movement.
(The best teams are ones that have a variety of player styles that complement each other.)
Spawn camping IS a bad thing, but it's the games and levels that need to be designed to avoid this. (Random spawning, no campable areas near spawn points, short invincibility upon re-spawning, etc)
If your own team members aren't playing as a team for ANY reason (including camping) then you have every right to tell them to change.
i dont see the problem with it especially in any game where you can cook nades or throw disabling devices such as flashbangs and the like since it only takes one or the other to eliminate someone who is camping.
because unless the map made is really bad and filled with corridors with only one small window at the end and no where else to go but to that one window to get anywhere then its fine since you can easily kill them with one of aformentioned things earlier.
for snipers ofc it is because unless you expect the sniper to run forward as a frontline troop he cant do anything else. (btw i have done this before with the barret 50. and a scroll wheel bind)
because unless the map made is really bad and filled with corridors with only one small window at the end and no where else to go but to that one window to get anywhere then its fine since you can easily kill them with one of aformentioned things earlier.
for snipers ofc it is because unless you expect the sniper to run forward as a frontline troop he cant do anything else. (btw i have done this before with the barret 50. and a scroll wheel bind)
camping is totally fine, and the only people to ***** about "noobtubeing" are campers who don't like the fact that they're strategy has a flaw. the same goes for the people who ***** about dynamite in RDR.
