Is it really that good.......?

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Hungry_Polar_Bear

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I've been hearing about Knights of the Old Republic for sometime now, and i have been seriously considering playing it with all the raving good reviews/opinions I've read about it. Now;

Is it really that good? (a lot of the great things i have heard about it were on this site)

and i thought it would be a good idea to hear stories about other people's experiences with something like this, so;

Has there ever been a game you keep hearing about but not actually played?
Has it made you play the game?
Did it turn out as good as what you heard?

(also, sorry if a post like this has been done before, if it has, i haven't seen it.)
(again also, please don't hate me for not having played KOTOR yet. :p)
 

Vortigar

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In my experience anytime anyone has nothing but praise for a game and wants you to play it you'll end up dissappointed.

This happened to me with KoTOR itself in fact. I've tried to play it three times and lost a couple dozen hours to it but can't find the combat appealing or the plot interesting. Note that I'm a huge Star Wars junkie, who's read some thirty books into the expanded universe and played multiple pen and paper rpg's in the universe (West End and Wizards to be exact).

Everyone keeps on whining you have to get further into the game to appreciate it. But the problem is I already know what the great 'shocker' in the plot is. There's no surprise for me there and probably no impact either.

It also happened with Portal, FEAR, Warcraft 3, FF8 and probably some others which I can't recall right now.

I'm trying to decide whether I dare playing the following in fear of being let down:
Shadow of the Colossus (yes yes, bla bla)
GTA4 (I don't care for GTA3 or VC, I still play GTA2 though)
Beyond Good and Evil (I have it lying around but don't dare pop it in actually)
 

Lord Krunk

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Yes. It is really that good.

That's all I can really say, but if there was a list of "Top 10 games you must play before you die," KOTOR would easily be one of them.

Stop asking us if you should play it and play it already.
 

khululy

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Vortigar post=9.68760.639707 said:
In my experience anytime anyone has nothing but praise for a game and wants you to play it you'll end up dissappointed.

This happened to me with KoTOR itself in fact. I've tried to play it three times and lost a couple dozen hours to it but can't find the combat appealing or the plot interesting. Note that I'm a huge Star Wars junkie, who's read some thirty books into the expanded universe and played multiple pen and paper rpg's in the universe (West End and Wizards to be exact).

Everyone keeps on whining you have to get further into the game to appreciate it. But the problem is I already know what the great 'shocker' in the plot is. There's no surprise for me there and probably no impact either.

It also happened with Portal, FEAR, Warcraft 3, FF8 and probably some others which I can't recall right now.

I'm trying to decide whether I dare playing the following in fear of being let down:
Shadow of the Colossus (yes yes, bla bla)
GTA4 (I don't care for GTA3 or VC, I still play GTA2 though)
Beyond Good and Evil (I have it lying around but don't dare pop it in actually)
you should play BG&E.
I played a lot of games that are not as well praised and they turn out to be good. that's the only good part about pirating you can play a game and decide if it's a worth buy.

But Kotor is a BioWare game and those games are not a bad choice for RPG fans.
 

n01d34

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I dug KOTOR, it?s big and fun. If you dig on RPGs I'd heartily recommend it.

As for your other questions,
Has there ever been a game you keep hearing about but not actually played? Yes Psychonauts.
Has it made you play the game? Yes
Did it turn out as good as what you heard? Yes

Then again Oblivion was a let down. It's cool till the level scaling brutalises your non-combat stealth specialist.
 

Susan Arendt

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Yes, KOTOR is that good. It's satisfying on all levels -- story, combat, characterization, all of it. I just started replaying it recently, and it ages beautifully.
 
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KOTOR is very good as far as plot, good characterization...but even though this puts me in the minority, I prefer Mass Effect over KOTOR. KOTOR is still a hell of a game, though.
 

Danny Ocean

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Yes it's that good. In fact, it's so good, I've completed it only once because I replayed it so many times.
 

super_smash_jesus

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It is definately worth playing through. I was just like you until last year, hearing nothing about how close this game is to transending to pure energy because it is so awesome, so I played it and was not dissapointed. It was also good enough to make me want to play the sequel, which means something too I guess.
 

Malf

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when i first heard about halo i was told omg it's amazing when it really isn't that great and it's multiplayer mechanics are a shameless goldeneye rip off
 

Lvl 64 Klutz

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I agree with Vortigar, and for me it was Psychonauts. I played it, I beat it with everything, and I enjoyed it. But overall the game was too easy, too short, and not nearly as funny as people made it out to be.

P.S: I love that avatar, Malf
 

asmodaus

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Yes, it is that good.Excellent writing, good character creation and characterazation makes the game feel very immersive.I really didn't care for the combat though, they should have made it a little more action oriented IMO, but the battle system is o.k so long as your not coming off of a game that involves a lot of action, in which case you're going to have a hard time with the change of pace.
 

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I heard great things and 10/10 scores for HL1, I bought it, played it (all 60 hours of the damn thing) and it turned out all the stories about realism were false and only true for about 10 minutes of the game, overall I thought it was shite.

now about KOTOR, I played the second one and liked it for a time, ok its not my type of RPG but it was ok but at the last part of Talos I just lost intrest and went back to Oblivion.
 

yourkie1921

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It depends, are you capable of ever enjoying the combat of a final-fantasy escue game where people are standing in rows of 3 and your attack hitting or missing being based on stats?

If so you'll definitely love this game because the combat is a mix of that and real time, except you only control one out of the 3 people and everything else about the game kicks ass

But if you don't like that you'll find the combat to suck and if you play for gameplay you'll be screwed. The story's still cool and it does what fable1 should've did as far as evil/bad characters. I don't know if there's going to be a good ending/bad ending for the last fight in the game but I don't care.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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I found KOTOR definately lived up to the Hype. It is not without its flaws, but it is an EXCELLENT game and provides great satisfaction on pretty much every level.
 

FrankDux

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Regardless if you are a Star Wars fan or not, if you are a fan of well written story or RPGs as a game form, I'd definitely check it out. I loved the game and if I didn't have other work to do (I believe I was in school at the time) I would have beat it 3 times! That's more than I can say for any other game.
 

Hungry_Polar_Bear

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Well while it seems that people have different opinions on the game, i reckon it still sounds pretty good, so I'll give it a go. Sounds like i won't be disappointed ;)

Thnx guys.
 

Kikosemmek

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Is it that good? No, it is not.

Usually a highly acclaimed game is actually very good overall. It doesn't mean it's flawless, and it definitely does not mean that it will not ruin your experience with it because you happen to notice its flaws more often than not.

I'll give you some examples:

Portal: a short one-trick pony. I enjoyed it greatly but it lasted for 2.5 hours. Then I played it again for four more times, but replay value diminished fast- the only thing that remains now is map packs, that is more puzzles- in other words, more of the same. Still is a one-trick pony.

Baldur's Gate 1&2: great story arch and character interaction. Shaky gameplay, at times. I personally happen to love real-time turn based combat and have really gotten into the rhythm of pausing, issuing orders, unpausing, and repeating. So, that game kicks ass for me. I still hated the horrible pathfinding, the shameful glitches, and the crappy attack sprites. Also, if a character changed their body orientation, they became mirror images of themselves. That is, their left side became their right side, and vice versa. This happened constantly and got on my nerves after a while.

Rome: Total War: I can write a doctorate dissertation on how stupid the AI was in this game. Declining factions would elect to go to war. Full-stack armies would sit in a forest for ten years. Trade agreements would be neglected even though both nations would benefit. Successful factions sometimes let you conquer half of their territories before responding properly. That's one half of the game. The other half involved grouping bugs, where units wouldn't follow orders issued to groups to which they belonged. Besieging armies would stay put and do nothing if their siege equipment gets destroyed (instead of retreating and saving the lives of many soldiers, which were otherwise wasted walking back and forth along walls which _shot arrows at them_); besieged forces would sit on their walls and in the town, waiting for you to trap them and advance properly on them, provided your soldiers marched down a fucking street in correct fashion and didn't dissolve into a disorganized mob.

Call of Duty 4: respawning enemies has always been and will always be a terrible gameplay mechanic. Checkpoints sometimes never clicked on veteran difficulty, which made some levels nearly unplayable.

Bioshock: gameplay was too easy and provided little challenge to the player. Dying was more an inconvenience than a setback.

Diablo 1&2: pure hack-and-slash and no actual role-playing is involved in the game. The quests are very few in number and amount to little more than gameplay devices. The in-game story advances in a very methodical and cheesy way.

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So, no game is flawless. You can never know until you play the game. The reason we have reviewing standards and acclaim is because, like with all things, quality is a standard that most people seem to agree on. It is relative by definition. It is the sum of all opinions. It doesn't mean you will love the game, and it doesn't mean any game is assured to be good.

You must first know what you want and what you like in a game, and then find your niche. After that, look at the games that are well-known to do what you want a game to do. Bottom line is 'good' is too complex to simply attribute to reviews and mass-praise.

Any time you hear nothing but praise for a game, ignore it unless there's some objective criticism for it within said praise. Usually just praise means that the person has been satisfied and has either ignored or overlooked the flaws inherent in the game they were praising. Every game has flaws, and most of great games even have huge ones- it's just that their target market was given what it wanted more often than not.

Hell, MGS4 got a 10 on GameSpot. It's perfect for people who love the Metal Gear bullshit, but to me it's tiresome and nonsensical. I wouldn't have enjoyed that 10/10-rated game one bit, and I didn't. My friend, however, bought a PS3 for the bloody thing, and enjoyed the game thoroughly, from start to finish. See the contrast?