Is Life Becoming Too Artificial?

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Solo508

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I'll be honest, I only come to the escapist to watch Zero Punctuation but sometimes I can't help myself from throwing my opinion in on the discussions I see next to the video player. Most of the catchy ones include controversial topics such as life goals, prejudice, religion, sexuality etc. So I've decided to throw in something of my own, this question has been troubling me lately; Is life becoming too artificial?

Well I think it is. I play a lot of games. You probably do too. Funnily enough, when I say life is becoming too artificial its not really because of that. Its because when I look at games like, lets say Age of Empires or Stranded (not that I'm a big fan of either) I sometimes think it would have been more exciting to live in an age where everything isn't mapped, where you aren't forced into school then into work. Its such a great thought that you could go out, catch a fish and sell it to the guy next door and become wealthy for a day or two. Most people go out to work all day and they don't even see what they are contributing to, they are just glad to have the pay. They sit typing away on keyboards all day before going home to play some games, watch some TV, go to bed, rinse and repeat. People buy their food from supermarkets, not even knowing for sure where it came from or whats really in it, do you even care what those numbers mean on the back of the pack? Why do they need to put that into our food? I heard they even inject water into chicken breasts to make them seem bigger, "chicken breast implants"? The chicken breasts, so cleverly packaged with bright green sunlit fields inhabited by lively chickens is nothing but an illusion to the sad truth that they probably sit in a factory with broken legs, a drip of water and a few bread crumbs. Its such a depressing thought to spend your life following the same routine. There was once a day where everybody kept chickens in their back garden, you fed them well and in return they fed you. Those days are over.

Can you imagine how exciting it would be to think that the world was flat and that it ended at a point? Its just a bore to know what we know these days, and lets face it; not many people want to strap on a space suit and go adventuring out there and end up with an asteroid up the ass. So the thought of further explanation doesn't cut it for me. When I think of our everyday lives a term I heard Yahtzee use in one of his videos keeps echoing in my mind; "toying with the gravel alongside the big road of life."

I accept that there are areas of the world that aren't completely mapped, where people still grow their own crops, catch their own fish and build their own houses but the sad truth is that now that I've had a taste of my "luxuries" It would be damn hard to get used to life without them, and whenever you needed to know something the thought of a 5 second google search would still be in the back of your mind as you walked to nearest smart persons hut.

My mum took me to see this (male) poet named Maggie the other day, she said it would be something "I would remember for the rest of my life" and, being 16 poetry really isn't my thing as you can imagine, so I was doubtful. I snorted at it but she eventually convinced me to tag along so I did, mainly so I could bring it up in my defence next time she accused me of "not doing enough". We went down this muddy little path with a small stream flowing next to it. Further down the path, to my astonishment there were dishes, cups and pans sitting on rocks in the stream getting washed! When my mum had said poet I was expecting some posh house on a farm, but to my utter amazement Maggie lives in a small pile of stones no bigger than a bedsit with camouflage tarpaulin over the top to keep out rain, he grows his own food and lives naturally (that doesn't mean naked, clever guy). Sadly, I never got to meet him, but his home alone left a lasting impression. Maybe we should all be living like Maggie, who knows? Its certainly a nice thought.
 

Ace of Spades

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Let us not forget that when the world wasn't mapped, there could have been dragons made of raisin bread over the newt hill for all we knew. It would definitely be fun to live in that kind of world.
 

Danny Ocean

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The way we are now is just a natural advancement. People can still choose to live 'outside' the system. But it's hard. There's a hobo that everyone knows who lives in our local woods. He lives outside the system, and it's hard for him.

No Job= No Money= Nothing.

Living like Maggie would be a step back, we can all be nostalgic of the 'good old days', even me, that is until we go back there, and realise what we're missing out on.

Would it even be feasible, if for some reason everyone did want to live in the stone age? Somehow you'd have to get everyone to do it at once, and even then, there will be one smart cookie who doesn't, and kicks everyone else's arse.

So I suggest you reconsider, is it really worth trading what you have to go back and live in huts?

Ace of Spades post=18.70714.700190 said:
Let us not forget that when the world wasn't mapped, there could have been dragons made of raisin bread over the newt hill for all we knew. It would definitely be fun to live in that kind of world.
Was that satire or copy-pasta?

But would it really be fun to live in that world? Living in fear of what might be around every corner? It could be good, but instinct is to be fearful of what you don't know. It's a wonder we ever left the old monotonous routine we had.

Eat. Sleep 4-5hrs. Wake up. Farm All Day. Eat. Sleep.
 

fulano

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First, hi, and nice topic.

Second, I disagree with you. I don't think we all should be living like Maggie. Maggie made a choice of a simpler life, good for Maggie. But mow, I'll take your argument and run with it to its last consequences, ok?

Suppose now that we all live like Maggie. All humankind lives like Maggie, what next? We're there, happy living like Maggie-contented. We have all we need, right? This is Maggie world.

Wait, what's that in the sky? oh, look up mommy, a big motherfucking asteroid, OH SHI--

You see my point?
 

Danny Ocean

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Exactly. There'd be no change if we went back to that time. Except shorter life spans, more disease, a lower general IQ, ect...

We'd still have the same old boring lifestyle, but it would be manual labour, not cushy desk jobs.
 

fulano

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For the sake of the species, the only way is forward. That's it.
 
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I bet we would be happier in ages past. If we took away all the ancillary bullshit and started living life. Hunting, fishing, rape, murder, genocide, death at 30....

wait, never mind.

*hugs billboard*
 
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Danny Ocean post=18.70714.700248 said:
Well, ignorance is bliss, if that's what you mean.
If you're referring to the suffering of other nations, it can't really be fixed by reverting THIS country to a similar standard.

EDIT: Well, unless you believe global economics are a zero-sum game, but then you're entering a totally different debate (wanna have a totally different debate?)
 

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yes it would have been fun to live with out "routines" of modern life. But do you know what is not fun? Dying from a sore tooth or how about being burned as a witch for under standing how planets can be used, or if that dont float your boat how about having no protecsion from being killed because you are diffrent.
We all have to face the fact that life, if you look at it in global terms, is shit and there will be in the end fuck all any point in any of us ever existing other that to grease the ever turning wheels of humanity and (i am about to go a bit off topic but bear with me) i can say with a great deal of sertanty that every one that posts on this thread will maybe be rembered for at best four further generasions unless one of us does some thing great or terrible then we will become just names on a piece of paper and in the end not even that.
so if you view the world like that then it always has and always will be shit, but we arnt her for the end of the ride were here for the ride its self, so go out and fall in love and do all thestuff you want to do and tell history to go fuck it self!

in conclusion, we have never had it better.
 

SmugFrog

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What makes me sad about the world is that there aren't any places left to explore - no new places to discover. I think this is why I enjoy so many games where you can be the "first" to explore or experience a place no one has seen before.

I don't think I'll see space travel take off in my lifetime. Sure, trips to space, but what about finding planets and going to them? I feel like I have a bit of explorer in my blood, but I'll never get to live that out.
 

Danny Ocean

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SmugFrog post=18.70714.700330 said:
What makes me sad about the world is that there aren't any places left to explore - no new places to discover. I think this is why I enjoy so many games where you can be the "first" to explore or experience a place no one has seen before.

I don't think I'll see space travel take off in my lifetime. Sure, trips to space, but what about finding planets and going to them? I feel like I have a bit of explorer in my blood, but I'll never get to live that out.
There may be no more places left for humanity to discover, but I'm sure there are many that you are yet to discover!


Imitation Saccharin post=18.70714.700263 said:
Danny Ocean post=18.70714.700248 said:
Well, ignorance is bliss, if that's what you mean.
If you're referring to the suffering of other nations, it can't really be fixed by reverting THIS country to a similar standard.
I was referring to bringing the whole world down to the level of the stone age. If we had no global communications like we do now, how could we even know 'the grass is greener'?
 

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Solo508 post=18.70714.700165 said:
The chicken breasts, so cleverly packaged with bright green sunlit fields inhabited by lively chickens is nothing but an illusion to the sad truth that they probably sit in a factory with broken legs, a drip of water and a few bread crumbs.
/why I'm a vegetarian
 

creepy_rabbit

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I dont mean to insult you but it seems to me like you have played so much games that you wish that you where in one

and for the question:
i feel this whould be a great moment to use the motto "the world is what you make it"
you dont have to follow the rules of society if you dont want to
 

TMAN10112

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I seperate myself from my everyday routine bye going hunting. In my opinion there is nothing more relaxing then spending a few hours out in the woods where there are no commercials, telemarketors, or pop-up adds. plus if I do get lucky, and take a dear, I've got 60-100 pounds of deliciose, organic, meat that I can be sure of where it came from.
 

John Galt

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You're just suffering from the same thoughts that have plagued man ever since he made a choice to settle down from the life of hunter-gathering, hell, probably since he jumped out of the trees.

People always romanticize the past when things seem dull. The only ways out of that mode of thought are either reverting to that old way and being confronted by the fact that it's just as bad, if not worse than today, or you can do the sensible thing and try to make your life more exciting. Go hiking, camping, skydiving, or just enjoy your routine. Hell, try volunteering with environmental or social causes if you want to feel less impotent.
 

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Danny Ocean post=18.70714.700345 said:
There may be no more places left for humanity to discover, but I'm sure there are many that you are yet to discover!
No doubt. I haven't seen the entire world, and there are places in the world that still hold me in awe when I get to see them. What I want is a place where no human has been before - ala Indiana Jones, Mass Effect, things like that. If that is called "playing too many games and wishing I was in one," then I guess the explorers of the past suffered from the same problem. How Christopher Columbus, Lewis and Clark played video games though... No, I think it's something in my blood - but there's no way to just set off on a rocket for the stars. We're at a technological standstill when it comes to a good method of space travel.

The only way I can get that fix is from a video game or movie. Playing Halo and looking off in the distance at things that if you wrote about them, you couldn't give a true view of its awe. Even in seeing pictures of different places - and I love to see them - I want to see them for myself instead of in a picture.

My job forces me to travel to several different countries and see many different places; but I can't truly explore on my own and be "free". Some places in the world are very dangerous to explore, and I have a family now, and they come first. I suppose I will have to continue with gaming to experience what part of me longs for.
 

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Solo508 said:
Is Life Becoming Too Artificial?
Tell me what you mean by artificial. Then I'll tell you what I think.

Apologies, but part of having an argument (as in a side of a debate) is making sure you understand it right.