Is New Vegas drastically better than Fallout 3?

[zhemis]

Yes, wait for patches.. Also, those really important awesome mods that you absolutely cannot play the game without or you will die horribly for real won't show up for a bit yet.

 

[A Pious Cultist]

It's a glorified reskin. .

/thread

/hyperbole
Also expect mod wrath.

It depends why you didn't like Fallout 3. New Vegas is a new game that expands on the previous one but its on the same generation so don't expect every game mechanic and such to be magically perfect now. It's also not necessarily as buggy as people make out, I'm not saying that they're lying or overexadurating, but sans the VERY OCCASIONAL crash, enemy stuck in the floor, or a generally crap framerate (although that's probably Gamebryo being shit rather than the game) I've not had a huge heap of trouble. It's still the type of game that rewards save scumming though.

 

[DustyDrB]

Not drastically, but to a fan of Fallout 3 it is considerably better. of course, if you didn't like Fallout 3, New Vegas isn't for you.

I hated Fallout 3 and love New Vegas. The world feels much different. I found the DC Wastes to be kind of hum-drum without much personality, and feel very much the opposite about New Vegas. That makes all the difference to me. The faction system is a spectacular addition.

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What didn't you like about Fallout 3? That would make it easier to say whether you might like New Vegas.

For me I didn't like the following about Fallout 3:
-The world: It was just so grey. Seems like a petty gripe, but when you spending so much time in a world that seems drab to you kind of kills it. New Vegas has much more variety in landscapes, and a much broader color palette.

-The driving force: I'm sick of "daddy issues" in media in general. I guess New Vegas' driving force is revenge, which is also pretty overdone. I didn't mind it here, though.

-The characters: Fallout 3's character's didn't feel...important to me. You had the antagonists, the father, and maybe a few others I don't remember. New Vegas has many characters who feel like they were important long before you came around. And so many of them are just loaded with charisma.

-Being pushed into playing in first person: I prefer playing in third person, but it was near impossible to do effectively in Fallout 3. On the other hand, I rarely ever switch to first person in New Vegas. Is it perfect? No. It feels awkward at first, but not unplayable. As you adjust, it starts to feel natural.

-The leveling system: While it may hinder exploration early in the game, I love that New Vegas doesn't employ the "enemies level with you" system seen in Fallout 3 (and Oblivion). Again, it makes the world feel like one that was alive long before you stepped into the scene, and gives you a sense of danger and a need to be aware of where you're going. Go to the wrong place too early and death is near inescapable. Of course, it's also fun to try to test your skill in these untamed areas. Just make sure you save before you go about it.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

well it takes everything that 3 did bad in, besides bugs and more engine related stuff, and made it 10 times better, such as story, characters, FUCKING FACTIONS, depth, and the things that it did alright or good it, it polished em, such as gameplay, weapons, immersion, and length.

i didn't care too much for fallout 3, but new vegas has me hooked by the balls.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Not drastically, but to a fan of Fallout 3 it is considerably better. of course, if you didn't like Fallout 3, New Vegas isn't for you.

I hated Fallout 3 and love New Vegas. The world feels much different. I found the DC Wastes to be kind of hum-drum without much personality, and feel very much the opposite about New Vegas. That makes all the difference to me. The faction system is a spectacular addition.

Snippity doo da

What didn't you like about Fallout 3? That would make it easier to say whether you might like New Vegas.

For me I didn't like the following about Fallout 3:
-The world: It was just so grey. Seems like a petty gripe, but when you spending so much time in a world that seems drab to you kind of kills it. New Vegas has much more variety in landscapes, and a much broader color palette.

-The driving force: I'm sick of "daddy issues" in media in general. I guess New Vegas' driving force is revenge, which is also pretty overdone. I didn't mind it here, though.

-The characters: Fallout 3's character's didn't feel...important to me. You had the antagonists, the father, and maybe a few others I don't remember. New Vegas has many characters who feel like they were important long before you came around. And so many of them are just loaded with charisma.

-Being pushed into playing in first person: I prefer playing in third person, but it was near impossible to do effectively in Fallout 3. On the other hand, I rarely ever switch to first person in New Vegas. Is it perfect? No. It feels awkward at first, but not unplayable. As you adjust, it starts to feel natural.

-The leveling system: While it may hinder exploration early in the game, I love that New Vegas doesn't employ the "enemies level with you" system seen in Fallout 3 (and Oblivion). Again, it makes the world feel like one that was alive long before you stepped into the scene, and gives you a sense of danger and a need to be aware of where you're going. Go to the wrong place too early and death is near inescapable. Of course, it's also fun to try to test your skill in these untamed areas. Just make sure you save before you go about it.

this is a much better detailed post of what i was going for..

 

[Demongeneral109]

The RPG elements are alot more refined in Fallout NV, but, expect to die about 3000 times faster than the immortal superman you were in fallout 3, cazadors are the bane of my existence... seriously, invest in the animal friend perk or you will be raped by demonic mutant flys

 

[Candrian]

New Vegas is pretty much what F3 was supposed to be, all that RPG complexity has been put back where it should be. Its not as deep as Fallout 2 but I doubt that sort of depth will be seen again - games just take too long to make to go as far as F2 or baldurs gate nowadays.
Fallout 3 simplified things too much, the economy was fairly broken, half the skills were pointless (barter in particular) and the annoying scaling difficulty to encounters meant that trying to explore at the highest levels meant wading through Deathclaws at every corner. My biggest gripe with F3 was that a huge sparsely populated wasteland isnt really that interesting. New Vegas is full of warring factions and hidden gems to keep things interesting

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

Similar to near identical gameplay wise to fallout 3 but has the feel of the original fallouts about and a much much better story this time. But if you are not a big fallout 3 fan then it may feel like more of the same.

 

[saruman31]

No. Compared to Fallout 3 this is crap.

edit: mainstory wise

 

[acosn]

It's an expansion pack for Fallout 3.

I happened to love fallout 3 so I had little issue paying the money for what's essentially Fallout 3 under the hood.

Sure, different setting, different characters, but at it's core it's the same game.


If you didn't like fallout 3 on account of gameplay you probably won't like New Vegas either. At any rate, I'd wait. There's already plans for DLC, and those fuckers decided to just leave the PC out in the dust. Thanks Obsidian, thanks. Way to acknowledge who put the franchise on the map by releasing one of the most buggy games I've ever played, and then turning around and giving the PC version the middle finger when it comes to post-release content.

 

[McShizzle]

-The characters: Fallout 3's character's didn't feel...important to me. You had the antagonists, the father, and maybe a few others I don't remember. New Vegas has many characters who feel like they were important long before you came around. And so many of them are just loaded with charisma.

Seconded. I found the characterization in FO3 wasn't very good. I never really gave a crap about anyone. Entirely different story in New Vegas. It seems like lots of folks have stuff going on and I want to know what it is. Oh Boone, you shot a kid at Bitter Springs didn't you, I know it.

 

[AnAngryMoose]

It depends. New Vegas has the same barren feeling that Fallout 3 has. If that's what you didn't like, you probably won't like New Vegas. But beyond that and the engine, nearly everything is different.

New Vegas FEELS like a true RPG. It's a lot more immersive. The story, faction system, and hardcore mode are all miles ahead of anything that was included in Fallout 3. There are a lot of different companions you can get, and they all have their own back stories and "companion quests," kind of like in Mass Effect 2. How you deal with each of them affects your ending. Certain combat skills, such as melee, have been drastically improved to remove monotony. The max level in vanilla is 30 instead of 20. Oh, and it isn't retarded easy or short like Fallout 3.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

This sums it up nicely.

Usually whenever I play I'm drawn into it to the point where I don't notice two or three hours go by.

How about you start up a save on one of your friends' PS3s and test the waters that way? That's generally what me and my friends who have different platforms do when we can't lend game to one another.

 

[KefkaCultist]

No not really its pretty much fallout 3 but in Nevada really. Theres a lot of things changed (item crafting, aiming down sights, hardcore mode) but nothing really game changing between the two.

EDIT: Also extremely buggy

 

[discordance]

It's a lot like Fallout 3 but it does things much, much better. The main plot actually has branches and options. You can actually join the evil faction if you want to. There are a bunch of memorable characters. The setting is better thought out and (to me) much more interesting. You can get rich playing blackjack for a few minutes.

 

[Ethylene Glycol]

I've been deeply considering getting my hands on a copy of New Vegas recently. Probably that damn peer pressure or some shit that's made me want to. The reason is irrelevant, I just do actually want to experience this game.

But here's the problem. I wasn't really a fan of Fallout 3. It was an okay game, I guess. But I just could never really get into it enough to become properly immersed and really interested in what was happening.

If that's your main problem with FO3, you -might- be able to dig New Vegas. I'm not very far in, but so far the plot is a lot more interesting and personal than "run all over DC for half the game looking for Daddy".

So here's my question: if I wasn't particularly fond of Fallout 3, is Fallout: New Vegas worth my time and money?

Keeping what I said above in mind, what kind of question is that? That's like asking "Will I like strawberry shortcake if I don't like strawberries, cake, or whipped cream?"

Here's what you do, chief: Download it illegally, and if you like it, do the right thing and buy yourself a legit copy. And if you don't, hey--uninstall, delete, and play something else.

No not really its pretty much fallout 3 but in Nevada really. Theres a lot of things changed (item crafting, aiming down sights, hardcore mode) but nothing really game changing between the two.

Huh! You know what it sounds like you just described? A sequel!

 

[ReservoirAngel]

My main complaint with Fallout 3 was two-fold. Number One is that the entire game area seemed really boring and samey in general. I get that it's been levelled into the dust, but there was no real variation there. On top of that, the characters you came across never really seemed like proper people. They were all a bit too wooden and 2-dimensional.

So, with this new more specific info in mind, is New Vegas improved enough to warrant a purchase?

OR, if it isn't, any possibility of getting some 360 games recommended that would satisfy me, bearing in mind the flaws in Fallout 3 I listed?

 

[Pete Oddly]

It has a better story, a better skills mechanic, and connects with older Fallouts much better.

That being said, don't buy it unless you like ripping your hair out of your head in pure bug-ridden frustration.

 

[AlternatePFG]

Well, New Vegas does have better written NPCs and writing in general. That's just my opinion.

I haven't ran into many bugs personally, nothing game breaking anyway.

 

[Andantil]

Yes, in my opinion. I've only had a couple crashes so far in about 170 hours of gameplay across 4 characters. The biggest problems I had with fallout 3 have been fixed, those being the hilariously inaccurate weapons and lack of damage threshold. The atmosphere's better, the story's better, more guns, more humor, and the faction system makes it feel like your actions actually matter.

Edit: Worth noting that this has been a lot more stable for me than fallout 3, which crashes every half hour or so.
Edit: let me make this very clear, as it can't be said enough: BUY IT FOR FUCKING PC! Mods make everything much, much better. Also, I hear the PC version's much less buggy.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

I was going to wait until I'm pretty much done with Reach and then I was going to get it. Price might have gone down a little. The big "you gotta sees" are already found. The bugs will be mostly fixed.

I say wait just a little bit, then go for it!