Is Spiderman: Homecoming even remotely good?

[Dansen]

I am always reminded of this whenever you critique any media for some reason. Spiderman homecoming is good movie. It doesn't revolutionize the wheel but I found it more entertaining that Rami's spider man 1 and 3. The Vulture reveal at the end was great, totally blindsided me by taking advantage of dumb preconceived notions. It was something different in terms of scale and themes for these Marvel movies.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

but it is a social-justice purveying,

I really, really, REALLY should know better than to ask but...sigh, how?

Because it has two black girls and an asian best friend. Don't you know only white people live in NY?

 

[Natemans]

Honestly, going back and watching the first two Raimi movies kinda shows how...mediocre they are. Like Doc Oc gets praised a lot for being a great villain..but is he? Visually yeah he's pretty unique but motivations? He's mind controlled by his tentacles.

Same with Green Goblin, he was mentally controlled by the green joker gas he used on himself.

It's telling that the writers couldn't come up with a proper motivation for not one, but both of their signature villains other than "they aren't in control of themselves"

To be fair at least Wilem Dafoe's performance and handling of that characterization is way better than Alfred Molina's.

I disagree. I think both villains are fantastic in terms of character and performance.

Hmmm.....no:

I think they're both fantastic villains.

 

[Natemans]

Honestly, going back and watching the first two Raimi movies kinda shows how...mediocre they are. Like Doc Oc gets praised a lot for being a great villain..but is he? Visually yeah he's pretty unique but motivations? He's mind controlled by his tentacles.

Same with Green Goblin, he was mentally controlled by the green joker gas he used on himself.

It's telling that the writers couldn't come up with a proper motivation for not one, but both of their signature villains other than "they aren't in control of themselves"

I think it's less about their motivations, and more about how they're performed and realized. Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina are always a treat, and they do a great job with these villains.

They also had some teeth (like the movies themselves); They acually flat-out murder people. And it shows they don't mess around and are a significant threat to the hero. I can't say I ever felt any sort of threat or tangible sense of danger emanate from the MCU villians.

And Spider-Man villians in general aren't that deep or motivated by anything other than 'I'm a bad guy, and I'm gonna do bad things'.

The Spiderman franchise is the only Marvel franchise where spidey has a recognizable Rogue's Gallery:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/misterz173/lists/enemies-of-spider-man/15138/

Actually X-Men, Fantastic Four and Avengers have some interesting villains as well

 

[marioandsonic]

I saw it in theaters. I enjoyed it.

 

[lionsprey]

it's an okey marvel movie. too bad it's not good as a spiderman movie