Is the "Batman" villain, Mad Hatter, a paedophile?

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At first I was thinking no but if you do some reading about Lewis Carroll the parents of girl her wrote Alice about banned him from being around her because of his peculiar obsession with her.

Don't know if it has a correlation but since Carroll was maybe one it wouldn't be a stretch that the character creator or Grant Morrison would hint at the Hatter being one.
 

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FolkLikePanda said:
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Well I'm dressing up as him for one of me friends fancy-dress thingies, so I hope not.
Wrong Mad Hatter. This is a batman villain, not the guy from Alice in wonderland.
Its Batman themed, shes going as Harley Quinn.
Who is?
My friend who's party it is.
OK then.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
and will look hot
I'm glad you have your priorities in the right place.

It's not about the consent, it's about the hotness.

... it's sad to think that there are probably people on the planet who think this way.
 

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EstrogenicMuscle said:
Evil Smurf said:
and will look hot
I'm glad you have your priorities in the right place.
It's not about the consent, it's about the hotness
1. I thought I had implied consent.
2. I was saying a 20 year old is conventionally more attractive then a 12 year old.
 

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With the whole 'mind control hats on young girls' he at the very least gives off a rapey vibe in the best of situations. Technically not a pedophile by the way since his implied victims are past puberty (or nearly past it) he'd be a Ephebophile.

So no he's not a paedophile.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
1. I thought I had implied consent.
2. I was saying a 20 year old is conventionally more attractive then a 12 year old.
Oh my God you were serious.

Who the heck responds to pedophilia with "oh my God that's gross. 12 year olds are totally not hot!" instead of "ewww that's sick, 12 year olds can't consent"? Yeah yeah you implied consent or whatever, but why should a 12 year old's physical attractiveness first come to mind on the subject of paedophilia?

Well since we're all being crazy people, does this mean that Baby Doll is Mad Hatter's ideal mate?
 

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EstrogenicMuscle said:
Yeah yeah you implied consent or whatever, but why should a 12 year old's physical attractiveness first come to mind on the subject of paedophilia?
Because I am trying to comprehend what goes through the mind of a pedophile. What attracts pedophiles and how to combat it.
 

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Because I am trying to comprehend what goes through the mind of a pedophile. What attracts pedophiles and how to combat it.
If a person is a pedophile just because they prefer the way children look I'm sure they could just find an adult who looks like that or something.

Also, if that counts as a paedophile. I think that you're trying to understand a sexuality that is not your own. I don't think that paedophiles like what is conventionally beautiful any more than a fat fetishist.

Though I think most paedophiles are in it for the power trip. The ones who just don't like secondary sex characteristics or whatever are a lot less dangerous probably. I would advise they date someone with Turner Syndrome or Noonan Syndrome or something.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
why would you even be a pedo in the first place? a twelve year old girl will not satisfy your sexual needs a twenty year old will and will look hot
Wow. Holy shit. You know that pedophiles don't actually CHOOSE to be attracted to children, right? There's actually something wrong with their brains that CAUSES them to be attracted to children. You really didn't think that one through, did you?

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Evil Smurf said:
why would you even be a pedo in the first place? a twelve year old girl will not satisfy your sexual needs a twenty year old will and will look hot


Uhhh... yeah, the point being a 20-year-old won't satisfy you if it's the 12-year-old you've got a thing for.

[sub](Oh, the thing's I write on this fucking website.)[/sub]
I am sure they can fix that with brain type chemicals
Oh......No. No, they can't. There is no chemical cure for pedophilia. Do you honestly think that pedophilia would still exist if there was?

I'm with the Joker on this one. Ho-ly shit.
 

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Okay, I may be a little ignorant when it comes to this subject, in trying to make sense of the twisted mind of a pedo I have used the wrong logic. But why the hell have we not come up with a cure for it? Come on science your move!
 

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6th And Silver said:
Evil Smurf said:
Woodsey said:
Evil Smurf said:
why would you even be a pedo in the first place? a twelve year old girl will not satisfy your sexual needs a twenty year old will and will look hot


Uhhh... yeah, the point being a 20-year-old won't satisfy you if it's the 12-year-old you've got a thing for.

[sub](Oh, the thing's I write on this fucking website.)[/sub]
I am sure they can fix that with brain type chemicals
Oh......No. No, they can't. There is no chemical cure for pedophilia. Do you honestly think that pedophilia would still exist if there was?

I'm with the Joker on this one. Ho-ly shit.
Ummm.. you've never heard of Pedophile-b-gone?

Geez... some people have been living under rocks. This is a very well known cure for pedophilia. And it's why there are literally no pedophiles today. Although, Generic Brain Chemicals Inc. is only responsible for fixing some of the pedophiles. Chris Hansen jailed the others not just with TV show, but also as his altar ego, Chris Hansen.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
6th And Silver said:
Okay, I may be a little ignorant when it comes to this subject, in trying to make sense of the twisted mind of a pedo I have used the wrong logic. But why the hell have we not come up with a cure for it? Come on science your move!
Mostly because the brain is really damn complicated. Although I believe[footnote]Though I'm not sure[/footnote] that pedophiles who just report themselves and don't act on their urges have found some success in therapy. But again, I don't know that for a fact.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
why would you even be a pedo in the first place? a twelve year old girl will not satisfy your sexual needs a twenty year old will and will look hot
Since you're so "interested in delving into the mind of a paedophile"...

I believe you should have come to the realization that they do not find 20 year olds "hot", but instead 12 year olds or so.

I think for most paedophiles, it's about victimizing someone, though, and not so much about sex. For those who are just into that body type, I'm pretty sure they should be looking for an adult with a body type similar to a child. I mean, that's what I would do if I was exclusively attracted to childlike bodies.

Which makes me think that that group who know it's wrong and like that or whatever are the minority. I think most paedophiles are warped sadists. Because, I mean, if you felt that way and knew it was wrong, and know how hated and inappropriate your sexuality was, wouldn't you want to direct it somewhere safer and more consensual?

It was baffling that the thing you thought of was whether 12 year olds were "hot" or not, because that's something I rarely think of at all. I'm not a paedophile because the thought of even thinking about such a thing is creepy. It's not that it's not hot, it's that it's morally disgusting. When I think of paedophilia it grosses me out because children are innocent and it's a painful thought like thinking of gore images. It's just a disturbing thought because children can't consent. I can't imagine thinking about that long enough to think about whether a child's body is "hot".

I'm pretty sure most people don't think of children sexually because the thought of hurting a child creeps them out too much.
 

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BarbaricGoose said:
Ummm.. you've never heard of Pedophile-b-gone?

Geez... some people have been living under rocks. This is a very well known cure for pedophilia. And it's why there are literally no pedophiles today. Although, Generic Brain Chemicals Inc. is only responsible for fixing some of the pedophiles. Chris Hansen jailed the others not just with TV show, but also as his altar ego, Chris Hansen.
So no Bat Anti-Pedo spray(c)? Lucious Fox, I am disapoit
 

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Evil Smurf said:
6th And Silver said:
Okay, I may be a little ignorant when it comes to this subject, in trying to make sense of the twisted mind of a pedo I have used the wrong logic. But why the hell have we not come up with a cure for it? Come on science your move!
Because cancer,AIDS, sociopaths, schizophrenia, chronic paranoia, uncontrollable rage, freedom of thought, depression, alcoholism and drug addictions are all higher up on the list for miracle medical cures.

Want to cure some of your ignorance? watch some LAW & ORDER: special victims unit. You will learn more about pedophilia then anyone actually wanted to.
 

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It seems entirely plausible to me, kidnapping young girls and mind controlling them, whether its shown or not, is pretty close to that. And who says he doesn't rape them while he kills them? (Jesus Christ did I really just type that?)
 

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Greets!

I doubt there is a brain chemical that can fix any way of thinking, assuming so is even more foolish than thinking the likes of child molesters and/or rapists have no choice in their actions, due to brain formation.

Despite the formation of one's brain and the chemicals it uses to maintain it's function, conscious thought always has a capability of will. Subconscious or unconscious thought, however, is a completely different beast entirely. Anyone hiding behind the excuse of; 'I had no choice, my ~chemicals~ did it! I have no responsability!' are merely avoiding the concequences of their actions.

Abnormal brain function is something I do not include into this, having a damaged or otherwise different brain that enforces certain logic types is certainly beyond what will can be manifested by the conscious mind, since it stems beyond what can be seen currently.

Does this mean that anyone who is not a paedophile, ever come to understand what it is to have such thoughts? Maybe the first thing that should be considered before an answer is given, is what are your own preferences. Do they match up with what can be considered paedophile? If not, then what do you see a paedophile to be? If you see a paedophile to be a criminal, then what would you seek done to them?

Of course, if you seek anything to be done to a paedophile, anything from 'fixing' them to cutting their bits off for a painful end fitting their 'sickness' then I have some news for you, my friends. By seeking paedophiles, you are criminalising a way of thinking before any crime might happen, as well as laying judgement before a person before they are lawfully and fairly processed by a court, should a crime be committed.

Lets not forget as well that paedophilia is not the same as child molestation or rape, one is a way of thinking and perference that could lead to a crime, where as the other is the crime itself. Someone could have preferences for children, yet never indulge, staying wonderfully covert for their entire lifetime. How does it feel knowing that your neighbour could be a paedophile that hides due to social stigma and fear of the law?

But then, everything I have written here does not mean that I support paedophilia, or would seek to decriminalise child molestation and rape, because I very much do support the laws in the west concerning the protection of children from such things. Children to me are horrible little snot-bags that need time and lots n' lots of money to grow, that may eventually become lovely greater london yobbos, bent on trashing the place someday. As such, children in my opinion should be given the space to become adults, not subjected to something they are simply not ready for.

As such, I can understand what happens to someone who indulges in what is currently a crime, for they face more than the hammer of the law. Indeed, they face a social blackout from their community that will forever label them as 'paedophile scum'

Calling someone else a paedophile when they havn't proven such is ultimately, a really, really dangerous proposition, because there is always someone out there that will ignore the law and exact their own indulging on the paedophile. I mean, having such preferences no longer makes you human, right? So who is going to care.

Apologies but becoming something worse than a paedophile, in reaction to a paedophile, is a thing that would scare me far more, even if it could be considered 'rightious'
 

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Relish in Chaos said:
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Just what the title says. I've just heard this from a number of sources and wanted to know if it was true.
What sources and what continuity? It matters, afterall.
Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth and Batman: Haunted Knight. In the latter, he kidnaps a young Barbara Gordon and forces her into a tea party dressed as Alice. That's what Wikipedia and a couple of other websites I can't remember say.
That doesn't exactly make him a pedophile, it just makes him a sick bastard. And who else could he get for Alice but a young child? Alice has always been a young child, so a person with an obsession with Alice in wonderland would need one for a real life tea party scene. Unless it says somewhere he chose her for sexual intent then he is most likely not a pedo.
I don't know, I haven't read them. That's just one example. Apparently, there are "implications".
It's worth noting the girl had to undress to change into the outfit....

....ewwwwww.