Is there any REASON gay marriage is wrong?
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Man you summed up my opinion better than I can. I'm all for gays having equal rights and recognition, so I think the better option would be to give a civil union equal legal standing as a marriage. Much in the same way that when you testify in court and choose not to swear on the Bible it doesn't make your testimony any less valid.Johnnyallstar said:
We aren't talking about marriage to any of those things. This is just homosexual marriage, so those points are invalid. Also 47.3% of all statistics are made up (there's a paradox for you) so I would like to know where you got that information, because it doesn't sound factual.Johnnyallstar said:
edit: blanking all of my responses. I said I wanted to provoke discussion, but I guess all I ended up provoking was people flaming me that agreed with me. I know this is "taking my ball and going home" but I can't field 30 pms and more thread replies about a view that I explicitly said that I don't share. Thanks guys.
In favor of it not being legal. Like most politicians i don't think we should change the definition of marriage when the traditions are what matter. But hey, if they want to get married just sign the papers at city hall, badabing badaboom.
EDIT: This belongs in the politics and religion section.
EDIT: This belongs in the politics and religion section.
Absoloutely, People need to grow up and accept that not everyone follows the same bullshit rules we've had drummed into our head this past millenia
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Also no, whatever flicks your switch.
Also no, whatever flicks your switch.
If by Gay marriage you mean homosexual couples having the right to demand any religious organization accept them under penalty of law then yeah, it's a bad thing, forcing a acceptance under penalty of law is not the way to do things in this case. Church and government should be separate.
(Note to the inevitable: Tax breaks for marriages apply under the principle that a couple is likely to spend more. As well since the income is combined the couple generally loses low income benefits (Hst, free medicare for example) so the tax break is meant to help off set this. A couple generally pays more tax then two single people and gets less in return, if any at all. This note is meant for the people who still think marriage tax breaks are a way to favor religious marriages.)
If you mean make it so Homosexuals couples can a) have every single right and privilege (tax benefits, adoption, whatever have you) as well as allow any church or organization who is willing to perform said ceremonies as well as always provide a legitimate third party service to perform the ceremonies. Then no, there is no problem. As long as the couple are responsible caring people they have every right to a family.
(Note to the inevitable: Tax breaks for marriages apply under the principle that a couple is likely to spend more. As well since the income is combined the couple generally loses low income benefits (Hst, free medicare for example) so the tax break is meant to help off set this. A couple generally pays more tax then two single people and gets less in return, if any at all. This note is meant for the people who still think marriage tax breaks are a way to favor religious marriages.)
If you mean make it so Homosexuals couples can a) have every single right and privilege (tax benefits, adoption, whatever have you) as well as allow any church or organization who is willing to perform said ceremonies as well as always provide a legitimate third party service to perform the ceremonies. Then no, there is no problem. As long as the couple are responsible caring people they have every right to a family.
Marriage is seen as a religious institution in my country, and most of the countries represented here, it happens in a church/chapel, it is believed to be in the presence of God, a holy union set forth in the bible. Now although marriage is quickly moving away from this 'holy' view, as now you don't have to get married in a church, or by an ordained person, and divorce is seen as far more socially acceptable than, say 50 years ago, there are still many religious people who view marriage as a religious event, to be done in reverence to God and in accordance with the Bible.
Now, it doesn't take a genius to figure that the main religions and most religious people still believe that homosexuality is a sin against God, and thus a gay marriage is an unholy union, ergo gay marriage is be wrong. It's a pretty simple straightforward point of view.
Now, it doesn't take a genius to figure that the main religions and most religious people still believe that homosexuality is a sin against God, and thus a gay marriage is an unholy union, ergo gay marriage is be wrong. It's a pretty simple straightforward point of view.
I'm not against any kind of romantic union between people, whether they be of the same gender, or there be more than one person involved. It's up to people to choose how they want to live, and I support their choice 100%.godfist88 said:
Gay marriage isn't "wrong" per se, it's just that the Church is supposed to be unifying a man and a woman in holy matrimony and all that (because the bible says so or something). I'll be honest though, if homosexuals want to get married there are other ways than in a Church y'know.
If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's a duck. It doesn't matter if it's really called something else, in the lexicon of the general public, it's a duck.Johnnyallstar said:
Similarly, if there is no difference between "marriage" and "civil union", it's marriage. It doesn't matter what the official term is, we'll still have weddings, wives, husbands, and all that stuff. Fighting for a term is meaningless.