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I'm not going to get into an IRA discussion (although it's like saying you support the KKK, but don't advocate hanging black people), but I will say that Piracy affects the industry in which The Escapist is involved, and also many of their advertisers and sponsors.
At the moment I can see a "Dirt 3" advert on screen, and I could say "hmm, that looks good" (and it IS good), and buy it. Or the same situation could arise, but I could be swayed by pro-piracy arguments on here to try it via a pirating method first. You can see why a developer who has spend thousands on this game may take a dim view of this? As opposed to a political ideology, which is objective, and ultimately unrelated
At the moment I can see a "Dirt 3" advert on screen, and I could say "hmm, that looks good" (and it IS good), and buy it. Or the same situation could arise, but I could be swayed by pro-piracy arguments on here to try it via a pirating method first. You can see why a developer who has spend thousands on this game may take a dim view of this? As opposed to a political ideology, which is objective, and ultimately unrelated
Most Irish people want to bury that in the past, They are not proud of alot of the things that the IRA did but some of the things they did was necessary for freedom from British oppression.
However Nowadays the IRA are a complete different bunch that doesn't have Most of Ireland support I say most because there will always be RA heads.
And just in case your wondering i live in south Dublin and don't support the IRA in anyway shape or form.
However Nowadays the IRA are a complete different bunch that doesn't have Most of Ireland support I say most because there will always be RA heads.
And just in case your wondering i live in south Dublin and don't support the IRA in anyway shape or form.
No, I'm pretty sure that supporting a religion means that you support, nay exalt, all of the terrible things that might be associated with it.kinapuffar said:
You want 'turn the other cheek'? You get 'crusades' too. Buy one get one free.
No. Just no.Salad Is Murder said:
There's a major difference between a religion which has good and bad people in it, and a terrorist organization which has the goal to murder people.
Edit: You were being sarcastic, right? You know you can't READ sarcasm?
Well, yeah. I know that, but how long were the English here? That's what I meant. Also the original IRA crossed some lines, but mainly hit black and tan, R.I.C., British army and spies.AnarchyUK said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear in what I said there.
Crossing the line, makes them something not to be supported, and any argument they may have had becomes moot.Firewind_77 said:
Besides there are plenty of cases of the IRA killing "spies" which were just normal people.
Ultimately this leads to the point if you are willing to kill someone to get what you want then you don't deserve to be supported
We don't allow people to advocate illegal acts in the forums for the same reason that you aren't allowed to walk out into the street and start trying to convince people to break into a store. If the IRA group wasn't banned it's because it hasn't been brought to our attention yet. Thanks for doing that.
That's true, man. I'm not saying they didn't do bad things. But as far as I'm concerned, they were the lesser of two evils in that period. The English actually had wide spread support in Ireland until 1916 and their handling of the leaders. Shooting James Connolly in a chair is widely seen as their main loss of support. Then there's all the stuff the Black and Tans did; which actually amount to war crimes in the present day. You know, burning a city, opening machine gun fire into a civilian crowd in revenge, shooting people because they could....AnarchyUK said:
However, all the IRA stuff from the Troubles with the bombings? That's sickening. It's genuinely sad to see people hate eachother for no reason like that. I mean, what did stuff like Omagh accomplish?
But really, we're derailing the thread. I hope you'll at least try to understand my point of view, but if not, that's okay too.
Which IRA? 'Provisional', 'Real, 'True' or 'Original Recipe'?Colour-Scientist said:
Wait... the last one is KFC not IRA.
It technically could fall under "Sedition", but that's splitting hairs.Arsen said:
But more importantly, this practice covers their ass legally, and by fighting piracy (which is illegal) they establish a consistent record that further distances them from prosecution.
Besides, what better way is there to promote piracy than to link to easy sources of it?
He didn't say they were, he said the Brits oppressed the Irish for hundreds of years (which you can't deny).AnarchyUK said:
That's half true, but the IRA were actually the official army of the Republic during the War of Independence, after which they split into two factions; the Irish National Army, who supported Collins, and the IRA, who were the ones who fought for true sovereignty. They sort of went to sh*t after that. Also, the Fenians weren't all that great either.
What would you do if your country was taken over by another, and only you and a few others weren't happy with it? I'm not defending their barbaric actions, but we have to remember, Ireland was as much their nation as it was anyone elses. And I'd also like to point out that they did believe that what they did would help their cause, and they weren't simply out to kill people.
The Good Friday Agreement was signed in 1998 with some minor assistance from the American government, two years before 9/11.
That's very true, although I got called a d*ck by quite a few people for saying something similar on another thread, so you might want to edit that a bit.
OT; I disagree with the "condoning piracy is not acceptable" thing, but comparing it to the IRA isn't the best way to argue against it. Just saying.
Okay, now I'm confused...of the two, which one is the terrorist organization?TheBelgianGuy said:
Aside: I know you can't 'read' sarcasm...but I was really aiming more for hyperbole; I thought it would be a little more obvious.
Nnnnnnnnnope!Salad Is Murder said:
But fine, we'll go with your logic. You support the continued existance of humans, right? Then you support every mass murderer and criminal that ever lived.
Stalin, Pol Pot, Lenin, Hilter, Djingis Khan, Kublai Khan, Al-Qaeda, and everyone else.
It's so easy to lump everyone together in guilt by association! Fantastic.
Yeah, but I
What if I do support all of those people, who are you to judge meh!kinapuffar said:
I'm sorry but I can't agree to this, basically you are saying that the majority (southern Ireland) has the right to force their sovereignty over Northern Ireland, but the Northern Irish don't have the right to agree sovereignty with a vote?The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
Your replacing one oppressed people with another, splitting Ireland seems reasonably fair in my opinion.