Is this ''cheating?''

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Xeros

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I did the "Clean the mean streets" achievement in GTA IV just so I could use the code that gives me full armor. Not to cheat new armor on during a mission, but because I didn't feel like running back to the gun shop every time I needed new armor. I had $250,000 from the bank robbery, and armor is only $800 a pop. I don't spend the damn money on anything anyway. Ammo and weapons are lying around for free.
 

Xannieros

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I consider it cheating. I've done the same with lock picks when I accidently skipped the how-to. I don't do it anymore.

Arrows are cheap, just go looting random stuff to sell.

I personally like a challenge, money management is part of it sadly. "Potions, spells or arrows...?" kind of thing.
 

ChildofGallifrey

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Is it harming anyone else in real life, or is it impeding anyone else's gameplay experience? Then no, as long as you're enjoying yourself it's fine.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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TwitchyGamer101 said:
I consider it cheating. I've done the same with lock picks when I accidently skipped the how-to. I don't do it anymore.

Arrows are cheap, just go looting random stuff to sell.

I personally like a challenge, money management is part of it sadly. "Potions, spells or arrows...?" kind of thing.
I have plenty of gold I just cant be boethered to stop halfway through a dungeon and go back to a vendor.
 

Evill_Bob

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Play the game in a way that you enjoy. You're not playing an online game so nobody is going to be pissed off about it. Though to run out of arrows in one dungion when you're have 200+ you must either be firing at damage sponges all day or craptastic aim.
 

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by definition, yes its cheating, should you care? No.
arrows are so fickle and annoying.
I always used the duplication glitch, personally (or just made a melee/magic user)


there's a set of frost arrows that do 40 damage over 2 seconds, the highest output I have seen, so i always kept a few thousand at my house and would duplicate about 100-150 if i was out in the field.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Evill_Bob said:
Play the game in a way that you enjoy. You're not playing an online game so nobody is going to be pissed off about it. Though to run out of arrows in one dungion when you're have 200+ you must either be firing at damage sponges all day or craptastic aim.
I don't know I just seem to run out really fast. I usually stealth kill everything in 2 or 3 shots which it what is kind of strange.
 

Jake the Snake

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Yes, it's cheating. And the problem with bethesda games is, as great as making yourself super powerful is, you realize about an hour into it: Wait, why am I even playing if there isn't anything to get better at? I broke the game. And the temptation will always be there...shit.

Well, that's how I got anyway.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Mezmer said:
Yes, it's cheating. And the problem with bethesda games is, as great as making yourself super powerful is, you realize about an hour into it: Wait, why am I even playing if there isn't anything to get better at? I broke the game. And the temptation will always be there...shit.

Well, that's how I got anyway.
How is giving myself the correct level arrows making me super powerful?
 

tycho0042

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by the strictest definition of it, yes. But honestly, if arrow gathering is such a ***** it sounds like it's almost inevitable if you wanna be a 100% ranged combatant
 

gundamrx101

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Coming from a game where an ogre yelled at me in a guards voice that it fought mud crabs stronger than me and a unicorn gave me entry to the dark brotherhood quests. You didn't cheat, you bended the game. Rock on sista!
 

bombadilillo

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I personally cannot cheat in a game to where it takes out all the skill. God mode is just not fun, its pointless.

However.

Im going to play ME2 again. And I am going to hex edit or console myself a shitload of resources, because I will NOT play that bullshit mining game one more fucking time. Its a pointless grind and having your party die because you didnt spend enough hours playing a minigame is poor design.

So theres a grey area there.
 

inFAMOUSCowZ

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I don't count it cheating as its a single player game, and you aren't competing with anyone. I'd do the same thing in your situation....if I used arrows in Oblivion.
 

Callate

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Well, it's doing something that isn't built into the rules of the game, so in that sense, yes, it's cheating.

But on the other hand, it isn't getting something you wouldn't ordinarily have access to, and it sounds like you're mostly just doing it so you don't have to slog back to town every hour or so to buy more arrows. It doesn't sound like it's affecting the challenge of the game, and it's improving your enjoyment of it. So in that sense, if you're looking for some kind of blessing, I'd say go for it. Single-player games are for your enjoyment; do what you want to make them enjoyable. Just be kind enough not to loudly compare your experience with others' if it comes up- if you come back later and say, for example, that Oblivion is way too easy (which may have been because you were able to specialize in Archery in a way the creators never intended), that would be less than kosher.
 

aldt

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I don't care if you cheat, and neither does anybody else. If you'd get more enjoyment from ploughing through a dungeon rather than trekking back to each arrow shop, or grinding bandits, that's probably your answer.
 

Snowy Rainbow

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It's cheating, yes. But cheating in a single player game to make it more enjoyable for yourself is hardly a bad thing.
 

Tibike77

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Feeling remorseful for cheating in a single player game is kind of pointless, since it's basically a victimless crime.
Or if you prefer, future you is the victim of past you, or vice-versa, but nobody else minds it. So do it as much as you want, we really, really don't have anything against it at all.
Now, if this was a multiplayer game, that would radically change things, and that could get you punched in the groin :p
 

Canadamus Prime

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Well yeah it is cheating technically, but you're talking about cheating in a single player game, so the only one that's effected by it is you. So if you don't feel that doing that cheapens your gaming experience then by all means carry one.
 

Aurora Firestorm

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Sure, it's cheating. But as N people have said in here, why should you care? It's single-player. If you think you will have a better experience by doing this, by all means do it. If you think you're robbing yourself of some fun, then don't do it.
 

Et3rnalLegend64

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It's cheating, yeah. It's not bad though (single player and all that). It's not really like you're breaking the game anyway.