I dunno if it was sexist, but I think Whedon has a point when he says we've seen these characters before. She's all business and just can't let her hair down, he's an uncouth womanizer who resents the callousness of the Man and dress codes. Looked like a typical rom com setup to me.
Is This Clip Sexist?
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I wouldn't call it sexist. That being said the clip is making me do everything but rush to the movies to see the movie when it releases.
Pratt's character seems to be even more the stereotypical womanizing immature man but without all the charme, charisma and humor that the character Starlord had.
It just doesn't really look like a good movie.
Pratt's character seems to be even more the stereotypical womanizing immature man but without all the charme, charisma and humor that the character Starlord had.
It just doesn't really look like a good movie.
this is a dumb remake.
I guess if you really want to reach out and say it's sexist it's sexist but at this point you might want to start looking for the commies in your coffee. Actually no scratch that, the man is being lewd there is no sexist content there the only one that is close to reenforcing gender roles is the woman with the pants comment.
As for Whedon, don't listen to him he's in the wrong place, I think he's drunk or mad or something.
I mean it's certainly stupid and that female character is perhaps one of the least likeable I've seen in a bit, the guy, less so but not much.
I would not want to watch a movie where these two mooks were featured heavily in it.
I guess if you really want to reach out and say it's sexist it's sexist but at this point you might want to start looking for the commies in your coffee. Actually no scratch that, the man is being lewd there is no sexist content there the only one that is close to reenforcing gender roles is the woman with the pants comment.
As for Whedon, don't listen to him he's in the wrong place, I think he's drunk or mad or something.
I mean it's certainly stupid and that female character is perhaps one of the least likeable I've seen in a bit, the guy, less so but not much.
I would not want to watch a movie where these two mooks were featured heavily in it.
What would you call someone who plans an itinerary for a date? Organized, pretentious...Redryhno said:
I think the character is slightly sexist, but this is a guy that has to remember his primal emotions, he has befriended velociraptors. This scene is more of a brawn vs brain thing. At least in my view anyway
*facepalm*
I like Joss. I don't like most of his work but I like him. He is off his rocker here.
The guy is coming off as a bit of a creep it's true, but is that the nature of how those two interact as they clearly know each other, or is it him? Secondly, we have nothing on their overall relationship from this 2 minute or so soundbite. The scene is out of context with the rest of the movie. A couple of people have played that game with Joss's work and it was every bit as unfair but hilarious as it was using his own measuring stick against him.
the character could easily be a sexist. there is enough there to jump to that conclusion, but to call the whole scene sexist is fucking stupid. She is not just standing there and taking it. She is not acting as if he has a right to talk to her like that and the tone of the scene itself kinda looks like it's taking the piss at him. All this shadow jumping is kinda depressing actually.
I like Joss. I don't like most of his work but I like him. He is off his rocker here.
The guy is coming off as a bit of a creep it's true, but is that the nature of how those two interact as they clearly know each other, or is it him? Secondly, we have nothing on their overall relationship from this 2 minute or so soundbite. The scene is out of context with the rest of the movie. A couple of people have played that game with Joss's work and it was every bit as unfair but hilarious as it was using his own measuring stick against him.
the character could easily be a sexist. there is enough there to jump to that conclusion, but to call the whole scene sexist is fucking stupid. She is not just standing there and taking it. She is not acting as if he has a right to talk to her like that and the tone of the scene itself kinda looks like it's taking the piss at him. All this shadow jumping is kinda depressing actually.
People really need to get some thicker skin if they find this sexist/offensive. It's sarcastic banter between people that seem to have known each other for some time with one trying to get a bit of a rise out of the other. I see zero problem with it, even if their roles were reversed.
Also Wheadon shouldn't talk considering how comic book(/movie) females are generally framed. Stones and glass houses Joss. *points thumb at Tony Stark*
Also Wheadon shouldn't talk considering how comic book(/movie) females are generally framed. Stones and glass houses Joss. *points thumb at Tony Stark*
My view of this often is:
If you have to ask whether or not something is sexist/racist/homophobic/etc, why do you even ask? With a tiny bit of effort someone can see injustice anywhere. Sure, sometimes it's actually legitimate, but generally not.
For the record, that clip: no, it's not.
If you have to ask whether or not something is sexist/racist/homophobic/etc, why do you even ask? With a tiny bit of effort someone can see injustice anywhere. Sure, sometimes it's actually legitimate, but generally not.
For the record, that clip: no, it's not.
I'm pretty sure if we look hard enough someone somewhere will end up being offended by fruit and possibly air.
And by internet law a filthy male really isn't allowed to speak with the preciousness that is a woman, especially not about sex, I'm surprised the man hasn't been put to a firing squad yet.
And by internet law a filthy male really isn't allowed to speak with the preciousness that is a woman, especially not about sex, I'm surprised the man hasn't been put to a firing squad yet.
What was Whedon's claim to fame again? Being Wesley Crusher and having a moderately successful youtube channel? I don't see how that makes him an authority on sexism, and him calling this clip sexist emboldens me in that opinion.
Well, if thought the conversation was funny. And the two charcaters obviously know each other. It would probably be different if they were strangers, then the guy would come across as...hm, akward I guess? Context matters and all that.
The depiction of sexism in media is not itself sexist. So no on that point.
At worst, the sexist comment was extremely mildly sexist and possibly not even sexist depending on context. So not really on that point either.
And finally, really? Whedon's calling out JW for something that mild? By that metric everything Whedon's ever done is sexist.
At worst, the sexist comment was extremely mildly sexist and possibly not even sexist depending on context. So not really on that point either.
And finally, really? Whedon's calling out JW for something that mild? By that metric everything Whedon's ever done is sexist.
I suppose scientist ladies has a tendency of being depicted as uptight neat freaks or whatever so I guess it can be argued there's some slight sexism in once again pulling inspiration from that somewhat tired archetype, same can be said about Pratt's character.
But personally I'd call it a little uninspired or even lazy more than anything.
http://i.imgur.com/3MdC2vA.jpg
But personally I'd call it a little uninspired or even lazy more than anything.
Smooth Operator said:
http://i.imgur.com/3MdC2vA.jpg