Is this racist?
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You're worried about online servers suppressing freedom of speech - freedom to be a tool 
- online?
I think they have that covered already.
Plus, how are supposed to moderate on someone if neither of you understands the other?
- online?I think they have that covered already.
Plus, how are supposed to moderate on someone if neither of you understands the other?
Yeah but that's not really impending on someone's right to free speech, really...Quiet Stranger said:
Racism is purely about your race - it's sort of the namesake, in case you didn't notice.Quiet Stranger said:
The colour of your skin is an indication of race, as people of the same race tend to have the same skin colour.
Everything else is just other types of discrimination - religious discrimination, sexism, etc.
I see the concern, but the issue is not a dislike of non-english speakers. It's that if you don't speak English, you are not physically capable of communicating with your team, the mods, etc. If you kicked someone with an accent, that would have a tinge of racism to it, but not allowing someone into a game filled with communication and teamwork because they can't communicate is not racist. It's practical.
yeah someone once told me (maybe in a class or something) that racism doesn't discriminate....or maybe that was a quote im thinking of.....well they said that racism is religion, skin, and country of originDuplicateValue said:
well i don't speak Portuguese or Spanish or French and neither does anyone i know on my TW server. so how am i suppose to play with some dude who doesn't speak the same language as the rest of us? just go to the server where they speak your language and it'll all be gravy.
I don't think you understand what freedom of speech is (or racism, for that matter...)Quiet Stranger said:
Freedom of speech is the concept that the government can't censor your ability to say things. Private entities can do whatever the fuck they want (Likewise, freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want without fear of retaliation from private entities or citizens.)
An English speaking server host has every right to say "English only," just as a German server host has every right to say "German Only."
Es gracioso, por que en XBOX Live si me encuentro con otro Méxicano comunmente comenzamos a decirnos de cosas en español (mas que nada insultos), lo cual inmediatamente algunos de los integrantes de nuestro equipo que no hablan español se ponen a quejarse y a decirnos "frijoleros" "mojados" y cosas asi
cosa curiosa por que en ningun momento cuando nos conectamos (o ellos se conectaron) establecieron "Estados Unidos" como el area para buscar un juego, porsupuesto que esto significa que no pueden quejarse con quedar entre Méxicanos/Alemanes/Franceses o como sea.
ED: i meant to post this in both languages but i pressed "post" before i translated it, sorry!
Its funny, because on XBOX live if i find another mexican communly we start to say a lot of things in spanish (most of them insults), wich immediatly some of the guys on our team that dont speak spanish begin to whine and call us "beaners" or "wet backs" and stuff like that
courious thing because there was not one time when we connected (or they connected) did we stablished "united states" as the area to search for a game, of course it means they cant complain when they are left among Mexican/German/frenchs or wathever.
cosa curiosa por que en ningun momento cuando nos conectamos (o ellos se conectaron) establecieron "Estados Unidos" como el area para buscar un juego, porsupuesto que esto significa que no pueden quejarse con quedar entre Méxicanos/Alemanes/Franceses o como sea.
ED: i meant to post this in both languages but i pressed "post" before i translated it, sorry!
Its funny, because on XBOX live if i find another mexican communly we start to say a lot of things in spanish (most of them insults), wich immediatly some of the guys on our team that dont speak spanish begin to whine and call us "beaners" or "wet backs" and stuff like that
courious thing because there was not one time when we connected (or they connected) did we stablished "united states" as the area to search for a game, of course it means they cant complain when they are left among Mexican/German/frenchs or wathever.
nah, if it's an english website, it's just rude and/or intimidating to use another language. and the same does of course apply in reverse
Jeg mener jeg bær ha rett til å bruke mitt eget språk.
Translation: I think I should have the right to use my own language. A pure lie. If you want to communicate to a bunch of strangers that you know probably will understand English and maybe, just maybe understand French, why not use English?! I have had people trying to yell at me in several languages I don't know, it just makes me annoyed.
Language doesn't have anything to do with believing in races. Believing I don't understand Portuguese doesn't mean I believe those who speak Portuguese are a different race. Nor does it mean anything but that I am pretty sure I do not speak Portuguese.
Check the definition of racism before you post questions like this the next time.
Translation: I think I should have the right to use my own language. A pure lie. If you want to communicate to a bunch of strangers that you know probably will understand English and maybe, just maybe understand French, why not use English?! I have had people trying to yell at me in several languages I don't know, it just makes me annoyed.
Language doesn't have anything to do with believing in races. Believing I don't understand Portuguese doesn't mean I believe those who speak Portuguese are a different race. Nor does it mean anything but that I am pretty sure I do not speak Portuguese.
Check the definition of racism before you post questions like this the next time.
Not in the slightest. I'm not sure that could be considered racism anyway.
Server owners have every right to dictate the rules of their server since its their property. And because it is their server you are playing on you don't have any rights there. Besides, its perfectly acceptable to want to be able to communicate with the people that are playing in your server. And its perfectly acceptable to not want to listen to conversation which is meaningless to them.
Server owners have every right to dictate the rules of their server since its their property. And because it is their server you are playing on you don't have any rights there. Besides, its perfectly acceptable to want to be able to communicate with the people that are playing in your server. And its perfectly acceptable to not want to listen to conversation which is meaningless to them.
Quiet Stranger said:
At worst this is a case of racial discrimination, but if there's a rule on the server "Speak English" you should agree to that before you join. When you go to Saudi Arabia it's illegal to drink alcohol, is it racist if they tell you to stop drinking if they spot you? I mean, that's a cultural difference from Saudi Arabia and us.Wikipedia said:
