Isn't anyone else bothered about this?

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Booze Zombie

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Maybe I get stuck on little details, maybe I'm picky, but something's bothering me...

Deus Ex: Human Revolution resembles Ghost In The Shell in it's current form, a hyper-futuristic world with people pulling off insane stunts with their awesome bionic bodies.
Deus Ex (1) resembles 1997 with the future seeping in slowly, the old world accommodating the future is how you might term it, I suppose.

Now, I'm all for change, innovation and trying, but Deus Ex: Human Revolution is set before Deus Ex (1) and for some reason the past of Deus Ex is more advanced than it's future... I just can't buy that.
I must say that I feel this is can only be a Deus Ex game in name, because it can't be in the same universe, that doesn't make sense to me.

For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, I'll stop writing this right now and go YouTube you some examples:

Here's Deus Ex (1):
Here's Deus Ex: Human Revolution:
With that all out of the way, it leaves me with but a single question:
Can you buy that Human Revolution is meant to be set before the first Deus Ex?
 

migo

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It's the nature of sci fi. The sci fi of the past will always look outdated and absurd. It's one of the reason sci fi tabletop RPGs never last, whereas fantasy stays the same.

I think given I was able to buy Enterprise being set before Star Trek, I'll do OK with Deus Ex Human Revolution being set before Deus Ex. You would think though that they'd just go ahead and make it an alternate future rather than officially set it as a prequel though, and do a sort of Final Fantasy thing where Deus Ex just denotes a specific line of unconnected cyberpunk games the same as Final Fantasy is a line of JRPGs.
 

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Sure. They use cybernetic augmentation in Human Revolution. In Deus Ex it was the use of nano-robotics. In the case of the former, it is immediately obvious when a person is augmented. In the case of the latter, they could pass as a normal human even if they can deflect a bullet with their skin or regrow a limb in seconds. As far as the difference in the action, that's little more than the result of 10 years of progress in gameplay and technology.
 

Glamorgan

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Well, I've seen worse stories. I just tune out if I start over thinking the story.
 

Booze Zombie

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migo said:
It's the nature of sci fi. The sci fi of the past will always look outdated and absurd. It's one of the reason sci fi tabletop RPGs never last, whereas fantasy stays the same.

I think given I was able to buy Enterprise being set before Star Trek, I'll do OK with Deus Ex Human Revolution being set before Deus Ex. You would think though that they'd just go ahead and make it an alternate future rather than officially set it as a prequel though, and do a sort of Final Fantasy thing where Deus Ex just denotes a specific line of unconnected cyberpunk games the same as Final Fantasy is a line of JRPGs.
The older game was limited by the technology of the time, but I felt that maybe that stopped them going over the top and keeping the setting grounded, there wasn't anything too silly.
It was a future that looked like it could happen in the next 100 years.
I don't think the first game is some amazing masterpiece, I just think it did what it did quite well.

Also, the prequel thing really did confuse me.
I'm not even sure how the developers themselves are going to explain this, but I'm willing to see how, even whilst this is bothering me.

Eclectic Dreck said:
Sure. They use cybernetic augmentation in Human Revolution. In Deus Ex it was the use of nano-robotics. In the case of the former, it is immediately obvious when a person is augmented. In the case of the latter, they could pass as a normal human even if they can deflect a bullet with their skin or regrow a limb in seconds. As far as the difference in the action, that's little more than the result of 10 years of progress in gameplay and technology.
That wasn't quite what I had meant, look at the world it's self in Deus Ex, it's grey, it's New York, it's stone and cement.
If you look at Human Revolution, China resembles a bee-hive, large, multi-layer and yellow.
It doesn't seem believable to me.
 

Ashsaver

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The prequel looks even more technological advance than the first one.

But air duct is still an air duct.
 

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mikozero said:
so you are basically assuming that NYC should look more advanced than cityscapes on the Asian Pacific Rim ? that isn't the case even now.

half the citys in that part of the world already look like something from sci-fi.
They had China in the first game, it didn't look like this, so it's kind of jarring...