It's Doomsday +5, 1965

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The year is 1965. 5 days ago the civilized world ended in a series of cataclysmic events, only a fraction of earths population remains. This has been just enough time for you to get your wits about yourself and go about wasteland business. To survive in the new and harsh semi-urban wastelands, you must arm yourself with whatever you see fit. Luckily you stumbled onto a vast armory containing virtually all weapons and vehicle technology available at the time. I say again, it is 1965, you may bring 5 weapons of any type and 1 vehicle. If you chose to have fixed or detachable armaments for your vehicle these WILL count as one of your weapon choices, including main guns, coaxes and so on. Which will it be? I've chosen 1965 to get a bit more interesting weapon and vehicle choices than you usually see in threads like this ^^.

BTW: Food, water and other things are implied, no need to include those. All weapons that are disposable you would get several of, if you opt for things like grenades they also come in a case or two. Note that the more you bring of anything, the more weighed down you will be and you may also need a more heavy duty vehicle. All weapons get a reasonable amount of ammo and magazines if needed.



My, likely a bit too overly detailed, list.

Primary Weapon: To enable myself to take out most living things at ranges of an impressive 800 meters and over with relative ease, I would chose the M14 Assault Rifle [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M14_rifle]. It's very powerful, very accurate and reliable, and it's 7.62 round is highly available in virtually all countries around the world. I'd also have some high powered optics for it. The rifle also has a fully automatic firing mode, so highly versatile. Worth mentioning it was put in service already in 1957, so easily available for this time period. The only issue with this weapon would be that spare parts are somewhat scarce.

Secondary Weapon: As an easy-to-access weapon that could compensate for the parts-issue of the M14, I would chose the Israeli made UZI Sub Machine Gun [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzi]. It's compact and light, and seeing as well over 10 million of this weapon was made parts are much more readily available. Several clone versions with compatible parts exist trough out the world too. It fires the abundant 9mm round, likely the easiest caliber round to come by. First appeared in 1948.

Close Combat: A simple combat knife would suffice for this, as well a performing any other job that a knife would need to in the post apocalyptic wasteland. I'm not going to bother with the specifics on this, as knives are so common and in most ways so similar.

Anti-Vehicle: Though it was a tough race between the M72 LAW and my final choice, I eventually opted for the M20B1 [http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazooka]. Though I despise it's name (due to my negativity to anything with "super" in it's name, and my slight distaste of the word bazooka), the M20B1 trumps the M72 with it's ability to use several kinds of projectiles, and being re-loadable, where the M72 is a disposable weapon and you'll need to carry a larger number. It was also extremely widely used during WW2 and after, making parts and ammunition abundant. What I need from a recoil-less of the era.

Grenade:
I'd chose my final weapon to be the M32 "Mills Bomb" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_bomb], the classic "pineapple grenade" of WW2, as it was produced by the countless million and any armory in the entire world at the time would have these in abundance. It's a relatively crude grenade, but functional and reliable, just what you need in a harsh environment like this.

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Vehicle: After much consideration, I have opted to not go with a heavy tracked vehicle nor a light jeep or truck, but rather the BDRM-2UM [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BRDM-2-Command-latrun-2.jpg], which is the command vehicle version, without the armament and with much better space inside and room for storage on the roof. It's a decently fast vehicle, good protection against small arms and the view form the drivers seat is quite decent. It's also relatively fuel-efficient for it's type and day of age, and carries a fuel tank of a decent 290 liter capacity.


--And thats my list! By no means does yours have to be so detailed, I'd just like more opinions and ideas on what's best to bring with you in a 1965 post apocalypse ^^.
 

lee1287

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Grenades.
Remote explosives.
Sniper.
Sword.
and... hel i dont know, a pistol thats easy to hide.

Vehicle? Some sort of Muscle car. MM yes, muscle car.
 

Hero in a half shell

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Main weapon: FG 42 (basically a prototype assault rifle made by Germany in WW2)
side arm: A flare gun, good for signalling far away

Close combat: a big ass Flammarde, its a sword with a curvy blade. I'm going strictly rule of cool there.
Anti vehicle: a piat

Suppression Weapon: .303 Browning machine gun

Vehicle: A fire engine

EDIT: Now with added pictures and insults
 

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primary weapon: a pointed stick, i am certain no one knows how to defend themselves against a pointed stick
secondary weapon: a basket of raspberries, because how many people are going to be carrying 16 ton weights (or a tiger) with them?
close combat: cricket bat, to fight zombies and muttants with
anti vehicle: A fat man
grenade: the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
vehicle: A giant rat, it doesn't need fuel and i can't drive so this works better for me
 

KeyMaster45

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the rye said:
primary weapon: a pointed stick, i am certain no one knows how to defend themselves against a pointed stick
secondary weapon: a basket of raspberries, because how many people are going to be carrying 16 ton weights (or a tiger) with them?
You'll need a gun to deal with anyone that's got a banana though.
 

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KeyMaster45 said:
the rye said:
primary weapon: a pointed stick, i am certain no one knows how to defend themselves against a pointed stick
secondary weapon: a basket of raspberries, because how many people are going to be carrying 16 ton weights (or a tiger) with them?
You'll need a gun to deal with anyone that's got a banana though.
Oh no what if they...have a bunch :(
 

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Vampire cat said:
Primary Weapon: To enable myself to take out most living things at ranges of an impressive 800 meters and over with relative ease, I would chose the M14 Assault Rifle [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M14_rifle]
Ahem. The M14 is a BATTLE rifle, not an assault rifle.


That said...

Primary: M44 [http://www.krcrefinishing.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ChrisM44before2.JPG] is a Russian bolt action rifle, more specifically, a carbine length Mosin Nagant. The 7.62x54R cartridge is a powerful one, capable of dropping large game (Such as deer and elk), people, and depending on which particular cartridge you have, light armoured vehicles. The carbine doesn't have the accuracy of the full length Nagant, but it's lighter weight, which means I'll have fewer issues with carrying it and ammo. The bayonet is a folding spike set up. It's also Russian, so it doesn't really matter what you do to it, it's going to work (There's a reason Mosin Nagant has been been used as a military rifle from before WWI up until quite recently). Ammo for extended periods is the only issue I see with this choice, but I have no issue picking something else up later. Bonus point: The M44 is the rifle that Simo Häyhä, better known as "The White Death" used to devastating effect against the Russians during the Winter War.

Secondary: Browning HP [http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/2/23/BrowningHP-BevHillsCop.jpg/600px-BrowningHP-BevHillsCop.jpg]. Outwardly similar to the M1911, chambered for 9mm. They're smooth shooters, fairly accurate, quite reliable. Good for smaller game or people, and 9mm is a retardedly common round so I shouldn't have to worry to much on running out completely. I honestly would prefer a Glock or a Cz.75, but sadly neither were designed until much later.

Close Quarters: A Kukri [http://www.dealease.com/images/_products/tmkglobal/25-901120.jpg]. Great for just about anything you could possibly need a knife or hand axe for, whether that's splitting melons, trees, or heads. Shouldn't need to say anything more on that.

Anti-Material: Opting out, too much weight. Also, let's be practical: You are not going to take on the military as a lone scavenger. Any armed and armoured group you come across is not a group you want to take on. Since I would be actively avoiding confrontations with military and paramilitary (and large groups, period), any anti-material weapon is a poor choice for me.

Grenade: Opting out for weight reasons.

Transport:
If this seems like an odd choice, allow to explain. For one, it's quiet, and I believe I've mentioned my desire to avoid conflicts. Since I would quickly be leaving urban environments for rural, fuel wouldn't be an issue either. Since I'm not going in heavy, and would probably be relying on hunting to feed myself, weight won't be too much of an issue either. So enjoy your heavy, heavy weapons and vehicles. I'll be nice and cozy out in the woods, so shut up woman and get on my horse.


I spent a good long while on this list, lol, researching and looking over choices. This was fun!

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Dango said:
Thank you Dango, for giving me the idea to add the following:

The M79 I was waffling over earlier, with a couple of WP grenades into the ammunition and explosives bins (From a safe distance), after I had cleared what I wanted from the cache. Why? No sense in just leaving shit behind for people to take and try and kill me with later! The Thumper could then be discarded as I ride off (VERY QUICKLY) into the sunset, and away from the hilariously dangerous fires that would be raging behind me somewhere.
 

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Koeryn said:
Vampire cat said:
Primary Weapon: To enable myself to take out most living things at ranges of an impressive 800 meters and over with relative ease, I would chose the M14 Assault Rifle [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M14_rifle]
Ahem. The M14 is a BATTLE rifle, not an assault rifle.
"The term 'battle rifle' is used mainly in the USA as distinction between the M14 and M16 rifle models. No similar term exists in most other languages." - Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle]

I'm Norwegian...
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That being said, nice to see a good full list at last, and yes it's a blast making these XD.
 

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Primary Weapon: HK G3 Assault Rifle.

Secondary Weapon: Browning Hi-Power pistol

Close Combat: Falchion.

Anti-Vehicle:RPG 7

Grenade: Stielhandgranate "potato masher"


Vehicle: Bell UH-1, love Huey's.
 

Koeryn

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Vampire cat said:
Koeryn said:
Vampire cat said:
Primary Weapon: To enable myself to take out most living things at ranges of an impressive 800 meters and over with relative ease, I would chose the M14 Assault Rifle [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M14_rifle]
Ahem. The M14 is a BATTLE rifle, not an assault rifle.
"The term 'battle rifle' is used mainly in the USA as distinction between the M14 and M16 rifle models. No similar term exists in most other languages." - Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle]

I'm Norwegian...
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That being said, nice to see a good full list at last, and yes it's a blast making these XD.
lol, fair enough.
 

Master Kuja

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Primary weapon: FN FAL (Preferably the 50-63 model given that it's the lightest, but I'm uncertain if it was developed within the time period specified, if not, my apologies), considering its wide spread usage and the prevalence of ammo, it wouldn't exactly be difficult to find replacement parts if required, or additional ammo if needed.

Secondary weapon: The M1911 would be overdone, and besides, the .45 rounds its chambered for wouldn't be anywhere near as commonplace as the 9mm rounds the Browning HP uses, so I'll opt for that.

Close combat: Kukri, just...Kukri.

Anti vehicle: Pass, too heavy and in a situation like this I'd like to lighten the load as much as possible, as well as avoid direct conflict.

Grenades: Again, pass, I'd probably end up blowing my own ass up with them.

Transport: I'll side with Koeryn on this one and take a horse for the exact same reasons, no need for finite amounts of fuel when, with enough care and attention, I can travel by horse in a stealthy, much more maneuverable manner.

So there we go, no need to go in heavy when there's no way in hell I'd want to get into direct confrontation unless I absolutely had to. Weapons with significant abundance during those time periods, with quite a fair bit of ammo lying around too, I dare say I could make whatever ammo I can carry without being weighed down too much last as well, seeing as I have no desire to get into battles.

Enjoy your heavy vehicles, looks like me and Koeryn will be riding it up like badasses on our faithful stallions, staying alive.
 

KeyMaster45

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the rye said:
KeyMaster45 said:
the rye said:
primary weapon: a pointed stick, i am certain no one knows how to defend themselves against a pointed stick
secondary weapon: a basket of raspberries, because how many people are going to be carrying 16 ton weights (or a tiger) with them?
You'll need a gun to deal with anyone that's got a banana though.
Oh no what if they...have a bunch :(
Well that's what the pointed stick is for. Though I have to admit you're down right screwed if they come at you with a handful of legumes.
 

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1965 huh? Looks like I won't be enjoying this since my birth hasn't even been a thought in my parent's head. My equipment would be whatever I could find and work with. However, I'll play the chance I'm going to die since you would probably have a better chance of winning the lottery twice than surviving.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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Primary weapon: Short Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle. It was in service with the british army until 1970, uses .303 ammunition which was widely available at the time and its a weapon i am familiar with having used one many times. Its a bolt action with a ten round magazine and is highly accurate.
Secondary: Sten mk1, because i'm a sucker for the classics xD. It uses 10 or 20 round box mags, has a decent rate of fire, is very lightweight and more reliable than an ak.
Sidearm: .38 webly service revolver, because it looks nice and has some nice stopping power.
Blade: the bayonet for the lee-enfield. It will serve all the functions of a normal knife and it gives me a bayonet for my rifle.
Finally, some smoke grenades, incase i need to disappear right sharpish
Vehicle: FV432 apc, command vehicle variant. Its amphibious, has lots of space on the inside for cargo, a bed and passengers if i wish to have any. Its nbc capable and it has two map boards and communications facilities. It was first introduced in 1962 and, after numerous upgrades, is still in service today in iraq and afghanistan.
 

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Master Kuja said:
Koeryn said:
-double snip-
Just felt like commenting here, for the sake of discussion ^^.

I see where both of you are coming from with the horses, and the sacrifice of heavier weapons for mobility and stealth. It would also be my reasoning that it is the best way to travel under such circumstances, but I chose not to for a couple of reasons:

First of all: I HATE, absolutely HATE, to come unprepared. Not being able to sport a grenade or some sort of heavy weaponry when needed would really grind my gears, and so it made sense to me to bring these things.

Secondly: Although the horse is amazingly self sufficient and adaptive, it cannot carry anywhere near as much as for example a car, and it has it's own physical limitations in addition to the drivers (that's not to say any vehicle doesn't have limitations, but I hope you know what I mean). Having a vehicle that can carry most of what you will need for most situations (like food and water supplies in larger quantities, in case of unforeseen events) is in my opinion pretty valuable, and I know personally that the possibility to sleep in a vehicle during nasty weather, and be somewhat fresh at the beginning of each day would be a godsend.

And finally: I opt for a relatively large armored vehicle because my nature is to seek out other people so that I myself could stand stronger. I wouldn't choose what I chose if the plan or expected was that I'd be spending my time all alone, or dodging unfriendly eyes, but if I'm intending to find other like-minded "wastelanders" to band up with, being able to bring some heavier weapons as well as a vehicle with a large carrying capacity and a safe interior would likely be a major plus.

One thing I sure would bring is a camo net, to hide my vehicle from Nickolai77 and his Huey XD.
 

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Vampire cat said:
Master Kuja said:
Koeryn said:
-double snip-
Just felt like commenting here, for the sake of discussion ^^.

I see where both of you are coming from with the horses, and the sacrifice of heavier weapons for mobility and stealth. It would also be my reasoning that it is the best way to travel under such circumstances, but I chose not to for a couple of reasons:

First of all: I HATE, absolutely HATE, to come unprepared. Not being able to sport a grenade or some sort of heavy weaponry when needed would really grind my gears, and so it made sense to me to bring these things.

Secondly: Although the horse is amazingly self sufficient and adaptive, it cannot carry anywhere near as much as for example a car, and it has it's own physical limitations in addition to the drivers (that's not to say any vehicle doesn't have limitations, but I hope you know what I mean). Having a vehicle that can carry most of what you will need for most situations (like food and water supplies in larger quantities, in case of unforeseen events) is in my opinion pretty valuable, and I know personally that the possibility to sleep in a vehicle during nasty weather, and be somewhat fresh at the beginning of each day would be a godsend.
I see where you're coming from, though my entire survival plan would revolve around avoiding combat as much as possible and keeping myself as light as possible while still having a solid selection for self defence.

In regards to shelter, I'd end up either finding other survivors with shelter, or ducking in and out of abandoned houses for the night so I at least have a bed to sleep in.

Mobility and being light weight has always been the idea for a survival plan in such a hypothetical situation for me and a horse would serve the purpose of mobility perfectly.
While I'm aware that the horse has its own physical limitations, there'd be no way I'd push it beyond its own limits anyway, as if I can't find any other survivors, then the horse would pretty much become my only companion to stave off some form of insanity, so I'd be sure to give it a great deal of care.

Then again, failing all of that I'd make some attempt to establish a sort of makeshift, Megaton style community built out of scrap and salvage, carefully policed but welcome to visitors who just need a place to stay for the night.
 

Koeryn

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Vampire cat said:
Master Kuja said:
Koeryn said:
-double snip-
Just felt like commenting here, for the sake of discussion ^^.

I see where both of you are coming from with the horses, and the sacrifice of heavier weapons for mobility and stealth. It would also be my reasoning that it is the best way to travel under such circumstances, but I chose not to for a couple of reasons:

First of all: I HATE, absolutely HATE, to come unprepared. Not being able to sport a grenade or some sort of heavy weaponry when needed would really grind my gears, and so it made sense to me to bring these things.

Secondly: Although the horse is amazingly self sufficient and adaptive, it cannot carry anywhere near as much as for example a car, and it has it's own physical limitations in addition to the drivers (that's not to say any vehicle doesn't have limitations, but I hope you know what I mean). Having a vehicle that can carry most of what you will need for most situations (like food and water supplies in larger quantities, in case of unforeseen events) is in my opinion pretty valuable, and I know personally that the possibility to sleep in a vehicle during nasty weather, and be somewhat fresh at the beginning of each day would be a godsend.

And finally: I opt for a relatively large armored vehicle because my nature is to seek out other people so that I myself could stand stronger. I wouldn't choose what I chose if the plan or expected was that I'd be spending my time all alone, or dodging unfriendly eyes, but if I'm intending to find other like-minded "wastelanders" to band up with, being able to bring some heavier weapons as well as a vehicle with a large carrying capacity and a safe interior would likely be a major plus.

One thing I sure would bring is a camo net, to hide my vehicle from Nickolai77 and his Huey XD.
I have no problem with joining a larger group, but I'm much more a loner. Add to that the fact that if production of fuel ended with the apocalypse, it doesn't keep forever. Much like twinkies, in that respect (though Gasoline admittedly has a longer shelf life). I also get what your saying with the protected interior should you need to deal with inclement weather.

That said, I think I'll take a ghillie suit over the camo net. Horses aren't so uncommon as to be targetted for anything other than food (and let's face it: A guy on a horse riding through the woods vs a guy in an APC driving down the road; which one is more likely a threat / target for having fat, fat loots?), and bushes? Who's going to shoot perfectly innocent bushes? =p


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Master Kuja said:
I see where you're coming from, though my entire survival plan would revolve around avoiding combat as much as possible and keeping myself as light as possible while still having a solid selection for self defence.

In regards to shelter, I'd end up either finding other survivors with shelter, or ducking in and out of abandoned houses for the night so I at least have a bed to sleep in.

Mobility and being light weight has always been the idea for a survival plan in such a hypothetical situation for me and a horse would serve the purpose of mobility perfectly.
While I'm aware that the horse has its own physical limitations, there'd be no way I'd push it beyond its own limits anyway, as if I can't find any other survivors, then the horse would pretty much become my only companion to stave off some form of insanity, so I'd be sure to give it a great deal of care.

Then again, failing all of that I'd make some attempt to establish a sort of makeshift, Megaton style community built out of scrap and salvage, carefully policed but welcome to visitors who just need a place to stay for the night.
 

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The answer for me is obvious: Set up shop and sell everything except my favorite few weapons. That way I'm wealthy and well armed.