It's Luke vs. Vader in Stars Wars #2 Preview Pages

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It's Luke vs. Vader in Stars Wars #2 Preview Pages

Marvel and Disney have released preview pages showcasing a fight between Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader in Star Wars #2.

Warning: Spoilers Ahead!

Marvel and Jason Aaron's new Star Wars comic released last month and ended on a rather ominous cliffhanger. An untrained Luke Skywalker standing across from Darth Vader, lightsaber in hand and ready to take the dark lord on. While the comic's position as an interquel meant that nothing too serious could happen, it was still a dramatic image on which to end the first entry in the franchise's new comic continuity.

Issue two of <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/tag/view/star%20wars?os=star+wars>Star Wars released today and, with the book now landing on comic store shelves, Marvel decided to give eager readers an advance look at its first few pages. Picking up right where the first issue left off, it will open with Luke trying to kill Darth Vader. As one would expect at this early stage in the story, Vader completely trounces him and then spends the remainder of the revealed pages disparaging Luke, insulting Obi-Wan and demanding that the young Skywalker help him find "the rebel pilot who destroyed the Death Star."

Oh Mr. Vader! If only you knew!

While I do like how this sequence plays with Luke and Vader not knowing they're father and son, I will say that I'm a bit disappointed by Aaron feeling it was necessary to bring the two face-to-face so quickly. As I wrote <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/comicsandcosplayreviews/12867-Star-Wars-1-Review>in my review of issue one, part of what made their confrontations in the movies special for me was how rare they were. Fighting Darth Vader was treated like a monolithic feat for Luke. Some of that will, honestly, be spoiled for me if it's revealed that they ran into each other constantly in-between the films. Now granted, others might feel differently and there are ways this encounter could play into the already established story from the movies (Vader learning Luke was behind the Death Star's destruction), but I'm still hopeful that going forward the comic will be a bit more sparse with its Vader vs. Luke moments.

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[Frankster]

So vader could sense Luke's presence in the force (despite not knowing he was there) in Return of the Jedi from across a considerable distance but not when is standing right in front of him?

Bleh.

 

[Vivi22]

So vader could sense Luke's presence in the force (despite not knowing he was there) in Return of the Jedi from across a considerable distance but not when is standing right in front of him?

Bleh.

To be fair, Luke had next to no control over the force at this point, whereas by the time of Return he was essentially a full Jedi.

 

[Svarr]

Well... at the bright side... um, at least Disney did not make a musical in comic form yet? haaa...haaaa... ugghmm.

Can't wait to see the movie. :3

 

[Frankster]

To be fair, Luke had next to no control over the force at this point, whereas by the time of Return he was essentially a full Jedi.

Fair point.

In which case I refer to Vader's line in A new hope: "The force is strong with this one!" versus the one he says in this comic preview "The Force will never be with you!"

He was able to feel the force of the "mysterious" rebel pilot he was chasing at a few hundred meters, and said pilot is now standing right in front of him yet can't feel it anymore?

 

[Arpegus]

Umm, isn't Luke using Anakin's lightsaber at this point? The one that Anakin handmade? So Vader just snagged his OWN lightsaber in this scene, and doesn't recognize it? Or if he DOES recognize it, he doesn't immediately ask WHY Obi-wan gave it to this simple farmboy?

The advantage of throwing out the convoluted Expanded Universe is that you can build a universe that is consistently well thought out and planned. Of course, if you just want to print money, you don't need to plan anything. It astounds me though that they thought of putting Luke vs. Vader into this thing, as it radically changes the meaning of their encounter in Empire. It reminds me of the really early Star Wars books, back before the writers even knew how the movies were to end.

One thing on my mind concerning all of this new "canon" is whether or not they are even fact-checking with the new movies being made. Early Star Wars comics and books contradicted what would later happen in the films, but if they run into similar discrepancies this early in the Disney-era, when one company controls everything, that would be really sad.

 

[CommanderL]

Umm, isn't Luke using Anakin's lightsaber at this point? The one that Anakin handmade? So Vader just snagged his OWN lightsaber in this scene, and doesn't recognize it? Or if he DOES recognize it, he doesn't immediately ask WHY Obi-wan gave it to this simple farmboy?

The advantage of throwing out the convoluted Expanded Universe is that you can build a universe that is consistently well thought out and planned. Of course, if you just want to print money, you don't need to plan anything. It astounds me though that they thought of putting Luke vs. Vader into this thing, as it radically changes the meaning of their encounter in Empire. It reminds me of the really early Star Wars books, back before the writers even knew how the movies were to end.

One thing on my mind concerning all of this new "canon" is whether or not they are even fact-checking with the new movies being made. Early Star Wars comics and books contradicted what would later happen in the films, but if they run into similar discrepancies this early in the Disney-era, when one company controls everything, that would be really sad.

he does regonize it

and then shit happens

 

[Randomvirus]

Shouldn't this not happen?

A pre-ESB confrontation between Vader and Luke weakens the impact of that moment.

DISREGARDING! DISREGARDING! I CAN'T HEAR YOU NAH NAH NAH!

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Umm, isn't Luke using Anakin's lightsaber at this point? The one that Anakin handmade? So Vader just snagged his OWN lightsaber in this scene, and doesn't recognize it? Or if he DOES recognize it, he doesn't immediately ask WHY Obi-wan gave it to this simple farmboy?

In Revenge of the Jedi, Obi-Wan took that lightsaber from Anakin/Vadar. Luke just mentioned "Master Kenobi," which handily explains why this child so weak in the force has Vadar's old lightsaber. Obi-Wan was trying to teach this kid (Vadar may even remembered Luke from the first Death Star escape) the ways of the Force but died before the training got far. You need a special crystal (established in the Clone Wars cartoons) to make lightsabers, crystals that are in only a few locations, most of which the Empire knows about and is guarding. Building a new lightsaber is nearly impossible.

Since Obi-Wan didn't give his own lightsaber (Obi-Wan died with it), it seems reasonable that Obi gave this kid the only spare lightsaber he had lying around. Vadar came to this logical conclusion, at this point he doesn't know his child/children survived Padma's death or that Obi-wan wouldn't give off the lightsaber to anyone who showed any force signature at all.

To be fair, Luke had next to no control over the force at this point, whereas by the time of Return he was essentially a full Jedi.

Fair point.

In which case I refer to Vader's line in A new hope: "The force is strong with this one!" versus the one he says in this comic preview "The Force will never be with you!"

He was able to feel the force of the "mysterious" rebel pilot he was chasing at a few hundred meters, and said pilot is now standing right in front of him yet can't feel it anymore?

The force is dependent on a person's concentration and emotions at any given moment. Here, Luke is charging at Vader in a blind rage. Luke hasn't gained the lightside training required to attack without anger, or the darkside training to use his emotions as a fuel source. Also, when Vader detected Luke last time, Obi-Wan was guiding Luke, putting Luke's mind at ease to forge a better connection with the force, while here Luke is attacking Vader without Obi-Wan's guidance. So, Luke has a weaker connection to the force at the moment, and Vader assumes Luke is someone different to the pilot.

 

[Neverhoodian]

I think people are missing the REAL problem with this comic; Luke is still wearing that godawful yellow jacket from the Yavin award ceremony. That thing is so 70's in the most painful way.

The advantage of throwing out the convoluted Expanded Universe is that you can build a universe that is consistently well thought out and planned. Of course, if you just want to print money, you don't need to plan anything. It astounds me though that they thought of putting Luke vs. Vader into this thing, as it radically changes the meaning of their encounter in Empire. It reminds me of the really early Star Wars books, back before the writers even knew how the movies were to end.

You mean books like Splinter of the Mind's Eye? I remember reading that book years ago. It doesn't mesh at all with the story of the classic trilogy, but it did offer an interesting "what if" scenario.

Apparently the idea for the novel stemmed from a contingency plan by Lucas. He was considering a low-budget sequel in the event that A New Hope bombed at the box office. Splinter of the Mind's Eye was the book adaptation of that plan, with cost-saving elements like a fog-shrouded planet (no props necessary, just some dry ice) and no Han Solo (Harrison Ford hadn't signed on for any sequels yet).

Other early EU authors like Brian Daley took the more sensible approach and deliberately distanced their works from the events of the film. Incidentally, I highly recommend his Han Solo novels if you haven't given them a read.

DISREGARDING! DISREGARDING! I CAN'T HEAR YOU NAH NAH NAH!

Ah yes, an all too familiar refrain. It's my reaction to about 80% of all EU content. Hell, I consider Episodes II and III to be apocryphal at best.

 

[Frankster]

The force is dependent on a person's concentration and emotions at any given moment. Here, Luke is charging at Vader in a blind rage. Luke hasn't gained the lightside training required to attack without anger, or the darkside training to use his emotions as a fuel source. Also, when Vader detected Luke last time, Obi-Wan was guiding Luke, putting Luke's mind at ease to forge a better connection with the force, while here Luke is attacking Vader without Obi-Wan's guidance. So, Luke has a weaker connection to the force at the moment, and Vader assumes Luke is someone different to the pilot.

That makes sense, I always saw being able to detect a bit like reading Power Levels DBZ style ever since the newer films showed you could measure midichlorians to determine force sensitivity but your explanation seems to me a lot more in the spirit of the original films and I'd much rather believe that.

Very well I'll defer to your superior Star Wars expertise on this and retract my original grumbling.

 

[Arpegus]

he does regonize it

and then shit happens

Ok, now I'm thinking of Vader on the toilet a few days after this fight, suddenly remembering that lightsaber and where he had seen it before. A stormtrooper walking down the corridor of the star destroyer pauses as the words "Nooooooo!" come drifting from the men's room.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

The advantage of throwing out the convoluted Expanded Universe is that you can build a universe that is consistently well thought out and planned. Of course, if you just want to print money, you don't need to plan anything. It astounds me though that they thought of putting Luke vs. Vader into this thing, as it radically changes the meaning of their encounter in Empire. It reminds me of the really early Star Wars books, back before the writers even knew how the movies were to end.

You mean books like Splinter of the Mind's Eye? I remember reading that book years ago. It doesn't mesh at all with the story of the classic trilogy, but it did offer an interesting "what if" scenario.

Apparently the idea for the novel stemmed from a contingency plan by Lucas. He was considering a low-budget sequel in the event that A New Hope bombed at the box office. Splinter of the Mind's Eye was the book adaptation of that plan, with cost-saving elements like a fog-shrouded planet (no props necessary, just some dry ice) and no Han Solo (Harrison Ford hadn't signed on for any sequels yet).

Other early EU authors like Brian Daley took the more sensible approach and deliberately distanced their works from the events of the film. Incidentally, I highly recommend his Han Solo novels if you haven't given them a read.

At the time, 20th Century Fox was in serious finical troubles. Part of the reason they approved of the original film was because they thought it would be a minor success and they would make a cheap sequel afterwards (similar to the Planet of Ape sequels) to keep themselves afloat. No one expected it to break every box office record, and Lucas could push for the much, MUCH better Empire to be made instead.

"According to [the author], Lucas' only request upon inspecting the manuscript was the removal of a dogfight in space undertaken by Luke and Leia before they crash-land on Mimban. Presumably, this sequence would have cost too much money to film."

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Splinter_of_the_Mind%27s_Eye