It's ok to be angry about capitalism

[crimson5pheonix]

Capitalism is great, when it stops being capitalism, apparently.

 

[Worgen]

At which point it sorta stops looking that much like capitalism, mind.

Except it doesn't.

 

[Seanchaidh]

practicing capitalism is immoral. participating in capitalism (as a worker) is coerced.

 

[Chimpzy]

https://www.thestreet.com/retail/costco-makes-controversial-move-to-avoid-high-tariff-costs

Lol. Lmao even

 

[Phoenixmgs]

What's a better system than capitalism?

 

[Silvanus]

What's a better system than capitalism?

Microsoft Windows. Well, maybe not Vista.

 

[Samtemdo8]

Microsoft Windows. Well, maybe not Vista.

Preferably either Windows 98 or XP or 7

 

[Gordon_4]

Preferably either Windows 98 or XP or 7

Windows 2000 does not get the love it deserves.

 

[Seanchaidh]

What's a better system than capitalism?

communism

 

[Phoenixmgs]

communism

If humans weren't humans, then sure.

 

[Seanchaidh]

If humans weren't humans, then sure.

communism is better than capitalism irrespective of whatever hangup you have about that.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

communism is better than capitalism irrespective of whatever hangup you have about that.

No, it's not at all.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Being better than capitalism isn't really the high bar people seem to think it is, given the *gestures wildly*. It's great success seems to be outsourcing its problems.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Being better than capitalism isn't really the high bar people seem to think it is, given the *gestures wildly*. It's great success seems to be outsourcing its problems.

Uh-huh... So capitalism didn't work in the prior to modern times when there wasn't much trade?

 

[Silvanus]

Uh-huh... So capitalism didn't work in the prior to modern times when there wasn't much trade?

What exactly do we mean by the "prior to modern times" (lol)? Capitalism as we describe it emerged between the 16th and 18th centuries.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

What exactly do we mean by the "prior to modern times" (lol)? Capitalism as we describe it emerged between the 16th and 18th centuries.

Before you could massively outsource stuff to other countries.

 

[Silvanus]

Before you could massively outsource stuff to other countries.

So, if you're talking about wide use of global trade routes, you'd be looking at the 19th Century.

You think capitalism worked well between the 16th and 18th Centuries, then...? I assume you're drawing from your vast expertise on the Early Modern Period for this?

 

[Phoenixmgs]

So, if you're talking about wide use of global trade routes, you'd be looking at the 19th Century.

You think capitalism worked well between the 16th and 18th Centuries, then...? I assume you're drawing from your vast expertise on the Early Modern Period for this?

Not just world wide trade routes but the ability to source every part of something with tons of parts from any country you want essentially. Or just make something in another country and ship it here. Hell, a friend of a friend used to make pottery before NAFTA and then had to switch careers. How much more worldwide trade there is now than even 50 years ago is rather massive. And don't you guys call this late stage capitalism where it sorta all falls apart? What's wrong with pre late stage capitalism? It's still the best system we have, not that it's amazing or perfect, but it's still the best.

 

[Silvanus]

Not just world wide trade routes but the ability to source every part of something with tons of parts from any country you want essentially. Or just make something in another country and ship it here. Hell, a friend of a friend used to make pottery before NAFTA and then had to switch careers. How much more worldwide trade there is now than even 50 years ago is rather massive. And don't you guys call this late stage capitalism where it sorta all falls apart? What's wrong with pre late stage capitalism? It's still the best system we have, not that it's amazing or perfect, but it's still the best.

So when are you talking about exactly, then? Pre-1900s? Pre-1950s? When was it working great? Be specific. Because honestly, I think you just threw this vague nonsensical line out with zero comprehension of the history of capitalism, mercantilism, trade, or anything at all really.

I hate to tell you this, but the early modern period was not nice to live in.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

So when are you talking about exactly, then? Pre-1900s? Pre-1950s? When was it working great? Be specific. Because honestly, I think you just threw this vague nonsensical line out with zero comprehension of the history of capitalism, mercantilism, trade, or anything at all really.

I hate to tell you this, but the early modern period was not nice to live in.

Again, capitalism is better than the other alternatives, I never said it was great.