Leave it to a bunch of Marxists to have an accurate appreciation of the differences between the real economy and the financial economy.
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That’s because the US hasn’t leveraged food sanctions on China. Like with the USSR. Also the US is much more self sufficient in tech, and energy than China. Also rare earth processing is old tech, it takes a while but its old, AI, quantum computing, sixth generation CCA aka air to air combat drones, precision hypersonic missiles, and even 4th generation nuclear SMRs are new tech.
China tightens export rules for crucial rare earths
Beijing's monopoly over rare earths is a key bargaining chip in its trade negotiations with the US.www.bbc.co.uk
Response to this has been strangely muted in much of the media, but... holy shit.
The West has long operated controls over trade and extensive rights to dictate trade and industrial policy on other nations. Now China has used the same policy tools to do it to the West - of course including the USA. Underlying this is the fact that - arguably - China now has a larger economy than the USA. I think we've also long lived with an assumption that the USA would win a trade war with China. Increasingly, it's looking like China would win because it could absolutely cripple the USA's access to key products, and whilst it would take a major financial hit, it's built a domestic economy and global reach capable of surviving loss of sales to the USA.
I'm sure the government famously devoted to studying and avoiding what led to the collapse of the Soviet Union hasn't thought of that.
They have 1.3-1.4 billion people. They would, at the very least, eat less meat and have lower calorie intake if this were to happen, which is pivotal for highly complex organisms and complex work in terms of diversity of food and calorie count.
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This is what happens when you have a senior-citizen-dominated world: they get afraid of everything and anything that looks unstable or causes potential instability gets erased. That guy, Whatifalthist, mentioned how we need to coerce women to marry and have more kids via an anti-feminist civil war, EDIT what a ludicrous misdirection. At some point, we will need to accept that reactionary, conservative old people shouldn't dictate everything just because they have the free time to vote and lots of money.
They are eating our jobs, hobbies, money, tax dollars, and ultimately our happiness and future. What are we getting out of banning property taxes to defund our public schools, or banning video games for the young? Go fucking vote unless you want more of this to happen, people on this forum.
Mark my words, everything we like will eventually get banned, toned down, ostracized, etc. You like that One Piece anime, too. Politically unstable fuck you, we need to control you.
and plenty of other trade partners who are neither committed to the primacy of the United States nor particularly interested in trying to starve the people of China for any other reason.
Right now, there are no sanctions, but if that changes, I doubt many would support them. Again, it's not really starvation; it's more likely an embargo with BRICs minus India on one side and the US, NATO, and major non-NATO allies on the other. China would likely figure out how to get out of it, but would not be able to be as dynamic.
Again, this is old news. The US wants to get along with China and Russia. So Russia and China can fight over Siberia, Outer Mongolia, etc.
Dude, surely you understand how modern trade works. The USA stops selling stuff to China? China just pays more for food from third parties. Other countries will be outbid by China, and so they will find another provider for their food (which will very possibly be the USA, seeing as the USA will have all that food lying around it's not selling to China). Basically, this is lots of disruption, lower availability of some types of food, additional cost etc. but let's not pretend China's going to run out of food.
Where do you think China might be able to readily source coal, oil and gas from? As a hint, you literally just mentioned the USSR.
Weapons are irrelevant unless someone's actually shooting. They make the military fanboys cream their pants, but they're not that big a deal. This is a trade war, and what matters is who is least able to tolerate economic pain.
And my point is that it is increasingly likely that the USA would fold first. Partly, I suspect, because Americans just aren't used to doing without, and they will make life intolerable for their leaders first. A lot because China makes just so much of the material products that the USA's economy depends on - including its much vaunted tech sector.
You want to say that the USA owns the tech? You mean it owns the intellectual property. Much of the stuff then made from that IP is made in China. If push really comes to shove, China just ignores US patents, then it's got both the tech and the factories. LOL!
You do realize China hates the UK and Europe, right? If given the chance to ally with the US or the EU, they would choose the US since during the 1800s and early 1900s, more European powers were in China doing imperialism, and their imperialism was worse than the US's by a mile. You should think of US policymakers for doing you a favor. Also, China hates Russia. If I were to guess, it's Taiwan's DPP, Japan, Russia, the UK, the EU, and then they hate the US.
Dude, surely you understand how modern trade works. The USA stops selling stuff to China? China just pays more for food from third parties. Other countries will be outbid by China, and so they will find another provider for their food (which will very possibly be the USA, seeing as the USA will have all that food lying around it's not selling to China). Basically, this is lots of disruption, lower availability of some types of food, additional cost etc. but let's not pretend China's going to run out of food.
Where do you think China might be able to readily source coal, oil and gas from? As a hint, you literally just mentioned the USSR.
Weapons are irrelevant unless someone's actually shooting. They make the military fanboys cream their pants, but they're not that big a deal. This is a trade war, and what matters is who is least able to tolerate economic pain.
And my point is that it is increasingly likely that the USA would fold first. Partly, I suspect, because Americans just aren't used to doing without, and they will make life intolerable for their leaders first. A lot because China makes just so much of the material products that the USA's economy depends on - including its much vaunted tech sector.
You want to say that the USA owns the tech? You mean it owns the intellectual property. Much of the stuff then made from that IP is made in China. If push really comes to shove, China just ignores US patents, then it's got both the tech and the factories. LOL!
They are likely using the Russians, too. The moment they see an opening, they are taking Siberia.
Forget it. The US has started trade wars with all its allies. There is no goodwill left to help the US to punish China. Also all those allies have their own economy to think of and don't want China trade wars. Unless it is for their own domestic interests.
The US has to do this alone.
Not remotely that much. I know that the century of humiliation was a thing, but it certainly not more important than the current rivalry with the US. Europe and China don't really clash in their geopolitical interests, making them pretty promising partners.
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Germany and Japan were in the bad books with (the rest of) Europe and the US more recently, but that's mostly overlooked now.
It is not quite the same as current China derives legitimacy from having brought back the land from the disaster that was the end of the Qing. So the communist party drags those events to the front again and again.
However, the idea that the US, who let the Kuomintang escape to Taiwan and protected them there, made them the UN representatives of China and then fought in the Korean war is somehow more loved for historical reasons than the EU is pretty ludicrious.
However, the idea that the US, who let the Kuomintang escape to Taiwan and protected them there, made them the UN representatives of China and then fought in the Korean war is somehow more loved for historical reasons than the EU is pretty ludicrious.
I would love Russia to lose Siberia. And then so much more. But maybe Europe and China can come to some sort of understanding with Europe supporting China taking Russian lands in exchange from China butting out of the war in Ukraine.
There’s some contradicting land claims between the two. But yes anyone who thinks it’s likely to happen is being overly optimistic.
I’d like to see China kicking those barbarians to the curb though.
China ain't much better.
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I suppose not currently. But the Chinese state hasn't been rotten to the core in literally all its incarnations. There have been functioning and reasonably benign Chinese leaders and government before.China ain't much better.
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Does not makeup for all the human rights violations and shit they are still pulling right now.
I didn't say that. Just that they aren't inherently barbaric like the Russians are and that on the whole I'm rooting against Russia more than I'm rooting against China.
But they are further away from Europe, which makes such a proposition quite attractive from European point of view.
They are also significantly less belligerant, making them less of a threat to other countries, even if they are similarly repressive inside.