"it's subjective..." as a comeback

[Daveman]

So I have been posting infrequently, discussing my opinions on this and that, flitting from one thread to the next in my usual fashion. However there has been a substantial increase in people telling me off for use of terms such as "good" and "easy" on the grounds that I'm not being objective enough. What further annoys me is that even when I may back it up with the fact that it is "generally" considered to be such they continue to say it's bloody subjective.

It's not subjective when the majority of people bloody agree.

I can't go on. It's wearing me down. This and exam stress is going to cause me to... oh no...

beep... beep... beep... beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..."

 

[El Poncho]

aww

 

[Curtmiester]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh...pointless.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Uhm... whe?

I suggest punching anyone who tells you to do so sir.

 

[Calobi]

Where are you using these terms? I, personally, don't see a problem with them being used, but if they're all in reviews you do (I'm guessing they're not) then that might be a problem.

Also, here's an exam hint: Don't think about them at all before taking them. Trust me, makes life easier. Then, once it's over, forget about it since you can't change anything. Life is so much simpler that way.

 

[Erana]

Well, no one can be truely subjective. If they say, "This is this way from a certain group's perspective" and having said perspective is a defining factor of said group, then what they are saying is pretty solid. Really, everything is subjective, so you might as well throw yourself into an oblivion of insanity if you want to be entirely subjective.

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

Its all good man. just relax, maybe you'll live through this

 

[Daveman]

Well, no one can be truely subjective. If they say, "This is this way from a certain group's perspective" and having said perspective is a defining factor of said group, then what they are saying is pretty solid. Really, everything is subjective, so you might as well throw yourself into an oblivion of insanity if you want to be entirely subjective.

this is almost exactly my point, it's impossible not to be, but we do our best

so is there really any point in using it as a response

Where are you using these terms? I, personally, don't see a problem with them being used, but if they're all in reviews you do (I'm guessing they're not) then that might be a problem.

Also, here's an exam hint: Don't think about them at all before taking them. Trust me, makes life easier. Then, once it's over, forget about it since you can't change anything. Life is so much simpler that way.

Thanks for the tip. That's mostly what I do anyway, but I've just got so damn many!

And no, I haven't done any reviews yet, and I may use them but I would qualify it with why I think it to be so.

 

[Baby Tea]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh...pointless.

That's subjective.

But seriously, I get what the OP is saying.
It's like saying: Climbing the stairs is easy.

Technically, that's subjective. People with physical disabilities, or who are severely obese might not think climbing the stairs is easy. But why would anyone point that out? Especially in regular conversation? If we're talking about two pretty regular Joes and one trips up the stairs, and the other says 'Haha, you idiot. It's just the stairs! It's easy!', why in the world would the other guy say 'Well that's subjective you you know. People with disabilities can't climb stairs very well.' We aren't talking about someone with cerebral palsy or a bum leg. We're talking about the moron who tripped up the stairs.

Now in certain situations, I think a simple clarification is fine, like: 'I found this easy'. Rather then 'This is easy'. You'd use that, say, when referring to a game's boss, or what ski-hill you like going down. Thus not saying it is generally easy, but specifically easy to you.

However, and let's be honest here, why would you come back with 'well that's subjective!' when a guy says 'that game was easy.' If you found it hard, just say something like 'Wow, you found it easy? I thought it was hard!' There. Now you don't look like a douche-bag who just scrolls around looking for people's posts to jump all over because they didn't use the EXACT words to make it opinion rather then general fact.

Of course this is the internet, and people can't help but be ass-hats most of the time.
But I suppose that's subjective, right?

 

[Erana]

Well, no one can be truely subjective. If they say, "This is this way from a certain group's perspective" and having said perspective is a defining factor of said group, then what they are saying is pretty solid. Really, everything is subjective, so you might as well throw yourself into an oblivion of insanity if you want to be entirely subjective.

this is almost exactly my point, it's impossible not to be, but we do our best

so is there really any point in using it as a response

Where are you using these terms? I, personally, don't see a problem with them being used, but if they're all in reviews you do (I'm guessing they're not) then that might be a problem.

Also, here's an exam hint: Don't think about them at all before taking them. Trust me, makes life easier. Then, once it's over, forget about it since you can't change anything. Life is so much simpler that way.

Thanks for the tip. That's mostly what I do anyway, but I've just got so damn many!

And no, I haven't done any reviews yet, and I may use them but I would qualify it with why I think it to be so.

Well, its a good way to change topics and confuse the hell outta people.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

It's alright if things are subjective, but if you don't have anything to back your opinions up with, they don't have real weight. So someone could have a subjective opinion that people will take more seriously, because they demonstrate that they know what they're talking about. Support and reasoning helps your argument. If you're just saying, "That's subjective. I disagree." Great. Thanks. Why?

I don't like the "200 Million Smokers Can't Be Wrong" argument, because that's a fallacy. It doesn't matter how many people agree with your opinion. Consensus doesn't make right. Your argument doesn't get more points through repetition.

So if you have a subjective opinion, explain why you have it, with reasons other than "these other people agree" and we'll talk.

 

[EeveeElectro]

Nuke their houses.

 

[megapenguinx]

If it's in a review you shouldn't be using those terms. But I agree there are certain things which can be deemed easy. Like Lego Star Wars for instance

 

[Random Argument Man]

Subjective: based on or influenced by personnal feelings, tastes or opinions. In other words, if someone liked it or didn't, it's subjective.

It's a harsh reality.

 

[Daveman]

Funny-ass thread.

thank you?

 

[pigeon_of_doom]

It's a bit of a cop out. Usually all that come back does is allows someone to justify their gut reaction to something without having to analyse why it makes them feel that way.

 

[Twilight_guy]

If the majority of people agree then that can be proved. That makes the statement a fact and facts are not subjective. Then it becomes a mater of finding the proof. Also, people on the Internet are generally idiots and extremely stubborn. Many will argue a losing point even when it has been proven totally wrong. Ignore the losers when you know you're right about a point.

 

[D_987]

Nobody will say that if you explain your reasoning behind it.

 

[Bat Vader]

So I have been posting infrequently, discussing my opinions on this and that, flitting from one thread to the next in my usual fashion. However there has been a substantial increase in people telling me off for use of terms such as "good" and "easy" on the grounds that I'm not being objective enough. What further annoys me is that even when I may back it up with the fact that it is "generally" considered to be such they continue to say it's bloody subjective.

It's not subjective when the majority of people bloody agree.

I can't go on. It's wearing me down. This and exam stress is going to cause me to... oh no...

beep... beep... beep... beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..."

people have their own opinions on a subject though. If everyone in the world agreed with you except one person that is their opinion not to agree. I say just agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Skeleon]

It's not subjective when the majority of people bloody agree.

Technically, that's not true considering the majority of people was sure the Earth was flat not too long ago. You need proof. If you have proof that can't be denied, then you're objectively right even if the majority disagrees with you.

I agree with you that it's stupid to remind everybody of their opinion being subjective, though.
Of course is my opinion subjective, that's why I am writing it in my post. Duh.