I've about had it with the gender wars around here.

[Jinxzy]

This thread has gone so far off topic.........

OT:
everything is men's fault!

Sorry, but it's all the woman's fault.
Our Nagging caused they great gender war of 1963. It was also the first time the frying pan was used as a weapon.

Yea, but you wouldn't have to nag if we would just put the damn toilet seat down for once!

I know! Gosh...would it really kill you to put the seat down? I'm sick of falling into the toilet!

 

[lumenadducere]

But we do keep giving Michael Bay a career. I mean, that definitely makes me have some contempt for my fellow men. Can't really blame anyone for being upset by that.

 

[RatRace123]

I agree we all suck, and both genders are equally horrible.

But people must keep on insisting that one gender is slightly less assholish than the other, or one gender is more assholish than the other.

Sooner or later we'll both have to accept that we're all terrible for our own reasons and learn to find the very very small amount of good traits about each other.

 

[anthony87]

Well then I think it's obvious what we have to do....

We've all got to invest heavily in genetic engineering so that in the future we can get rid of all gender discrimination.

Get all Futanari up in this *****!

If you're unsure what Futanari means and decide to look it up....please don't think any less of me....please?

 

[Richardplex]

Well then I think it's obvious what we have to do....

We've all got to invest heavily in genetic engineering so that in the future we can get rid of all gender discrimination.

Get all Futanari up in this *****!

If you're unsure what Futanari means and decide to look it up....please don't think any less of me....please?

If a word is in big blue letters, one has to look it up. I fear the day when you can put scat or guro in a similar situation. But then you'll be helping the economy for all the brain bleach sold. But I agree, futanari is the way forward.

OT:

 

[Brad Calkins]

You really want to know what I think of this, okay. Women are selfish, spoiled little cunts. Today, they have all the advantages of that men have, but are expected to take none of the responsiblities. Men are expected to take care of themselves and those around them, to hold a job, but for a woman, this is optional. Women have welfare to fall back on 80% of all homeless are male, only men are made to fight in wars, and women are allowed to marry to avoid working. When two people marry the man is expected to take care of the woman, while nothing is expected from her, unless she WANTS to do it. My mother is the perfect example, she does nothing around the house but drink and collect my late father's pension checks, while her boyfriend holds a job and raises her children, he does literally all the parenting, because her whole parenting style is to say "no" and walk away expecting the problem to fix itself. Okay, so it's probably better if he does that, but what about her doing something for him once in a while, anything. And even with things like this they still complain that they're being exploited. HOW? They complain about fanservice in everything, from TV, to anime, to video games, but what are we asking them for, in alot of cases, nothing, literally nothing, just that they don't make asses out of themselves, but apparently that makes us the devil. It's like we're constantly giving the neighbor presents, but then they throw a tantrum because we have nice china in our house, it doesn't matter that they have nice china too, it's not like it harms them, only they're allowed to have nice things. So they kick and scream until we break it all, is that fair?
Sure men have issues to but I assure you women have all those flaws too, in addition to the above.

 

[AnotherAvatar]

Women: While they are indeed deeply confusing due to the game they play and their common trait of not really being into nice guys, I am in no way mad at them. They play those games to attempt to weed out the hundreds of ass holes who would fuck them and hurt them, and it is also because of general trust issues created either by our male run society or by encounters with the aforementioned ass holes that they don't trust or desire nice guys (fear of being hurt anyone). Plus, at the end of the day, they're so beautiful and oddly charming I can't help but adore them, hence why I'm not sucking every cool guy I knows dick, and am less likely to show them attention than I am a beautiful and charming woman.

Men: We're generally dicks, no, seriously, we get off on it, it gives us a laugh, and some of us like to be dicks to women in fucked up ways. That said, I love my brothers in the human race, we all share this odd instant bond if we meet each other in the right mood, and hanging with your best male friends getting into some crazy adventure is as much fun as life can get really.

That said, I think it all comes down to our hormones. Men, well we get testosterone, which makes us want to beat the shit out of anyone who would touch something we deem as ours (women, bar stools, characters in fighting games, seriously name it and men have fought over it, thats why we have wars for fucks sake), and it also makes us want to fuck, like a lot. Ladies: Picture how you feel when you're ovulating, you know, when you're really horny before your period. Now picture that shit all the time, that's being a guy, and fuck our lives for how distracting it is. I'd love to quit staying up all night worrying about this cute girl in my class, or I'd love to not ditch my studying to get drinks with a cute girl I met at a festival, but I'm still gonna do it and I really can't help it at all. Not fun... Well, okay, sometimes it's fun.

As for women they get estrogen, and it makes them very sympathetic, and loving. This often leads to heartbreak at a young age (when the boys with the will and skills to approach women are only interested in one thing, or the men are older and again only interested in one thing), which leads to the trust issues I mentioned earlier. Honestly I love how empathetic women are, and it's worth breaking through the natural barriers they put up to get close to them.

My advice to the guys is as follows: Be more considerate of how hard it is to be a woman these days. If you don't think sexism still exists then you're not paying attention, and it swings in our favor. Mix that with how horny every guy is, and how it's likely every girl has been deeply hurt by a first love (no seriously, I've had hundreds of conversations with different women, and they all had this), and just cut them some slack. If you really want the love of a woman your best bet is to be her friend first, put yourself in the friend zone before she can, and then show her why she should be with you. Along the way you might figure out why you want her, and any time I've seen this happen it ends happily. Plus female friends usually lead to more female friends.

Also, if you don't want that, be honest with yourself and them and don't go for a relationship: It's 2012, most of the prudes have died off and the concept of casual sex is a lot more common. With no heart strings attached everything tends to go smoother, and I've also had some great relationships blossom out of this.

I have no advice for the women, other than to trust their instincts and be considerate (and careful) of how absurdly fucking horny we are. I've had so many female friends prance around in absurdly revealing outfits in front of me while they're dating friends, almost physically painful to resist (though that girl and I did later hook up after she broke up with my friend, I guess that was an open chance really, but even then it's not fair to tempt my morals).

That said, I will never complain about a beautiful woman prancing around in a revealing outfit, so I guess I take that last bit back.

To everyone: Good luck, and I hope you find someone you can love, and who can love you.

/Cool story

 

[loc978]

Spoiler: a wall of generalized misogyny

You really want to know what I think of this, okay. Women are selfish, spoiled little cunts. Today, they have all the advantages of that men have, but are expected to take none of the responsiblities. Men are expected to take care of themselves and those around them, to hold a job, but for a woman, this is optional. Women have welfare to fall back on 80% of all homeless are male, only men are made to fight in wars, and women are allowed to marry to avoid working. When two people marry the man is expected to take care of the woman, while nothing is expected from her, unless she WANTS to do it. My mother is the perfect example, she does nothing around the house but drink and collect my late father's pension checks, while her boyfriend holds a job and raises her children, he does literally all the parenting, because her whole parenting style is to say "no" and walk away expecting the problem to fix itself. Okay, so it's probably better if he does that, but what about her doing something for him once in a while, anything. And even with things like this they still complain that they're being exploited. HOW? They complain about fanservice in everything, from TV, to anime, to video games, but what are we asking them for, in alot of cases, nothing, literally nothing, just that they don't make asses out of themselves, but apparently that makes us the devil. It's like we're constantly giving the neighbor presents, but then they throw a tantrum because we have nice china in our house, it doesn't matter that they have nice china too, it's not like it harms them, only they're allowed to have nice things. So they kick and scream until we break it all, is that fair?
Sure men have issues to but I assure you women have all those flaws too, in addition to the above.

Sounds like you need to move outta the damn bible belt, son. Over here on the left coast, we've got men mooching off women, women mooching off men, and surgery to switch you from one to the other with a little work.

...seriously, I know no fewer than 6 house-husbands. Our society is in the middle of kicking a religion habit, these things happen.

Honestly, I think once religion is made to be irrelevant in the public and social eye then gender issues wil largely cease to be a recurring problem.

I think that one deserves a

Spoiler: seal of approval

 

[Vault101]

Women suck. Men suck. Women want unrealistic sensitive tough guys, men want unrealistic friendly porn models. Women are overly defensive, men are apathatic, women watch too many rom coms, men keep giving micheal bay a career, both genders are as shallow as each other, which is pretty damn shallow. Get it? Sure, it ain't all men and women that are like this just most of them. So basically, most people suck. Here we are all arguing endlessly about which gender sucks more, well, they just suck differently, and meanwhile, we're being a**holes to each other in possibly one of the only online communities with a deficiancy of people who suck.

.

generalisations are half the problem

most of the stuff you listed there is cultrual

 

[Chemical Alia]

You really want to know what I think of this, okay. Women are selfish, spoiled little cunts. Today, they have all the advantages of that men have, but are expected to take none of the responsiblities. Men are expected to take care of themselves and those around them, to hold a job, but for a woman, this is optional. Women have welfare to fall back on 80% of all homeless are male, only men are made to fight in wars, and women are allowed to marry to avoid working. When two people marry the man is expected to take care of the woman, while nothing is expected from her, unless she WANTS to do it. My mother is the perfect example, she does nothing around the house but drink and collect my late father's pension checks, while her boyfriend holds a job and raises her children, he does literally all the parenting, because her whole parenting style is to say "no" and walk away expecting the problem to fix itself. Okay, so it's probably better if he does that, but what about her doing something for him once in a while, anything. And even with things like this they still complain that they're being exploited. HOW? They complain about fanservice in everything, from TV, to anime, to video games, but what are we asking them for, in alot of cases, nothing, literally nothing, just that they don't make asses out of themselves, but apparently that makes us the devil. It's like we're constantly giving the neighbor presents, but then they throw a tantrum because we have nice china in our house, it doesn't matter that they have nice china too, it's not like it harms them, only they're allowed to have nice things. So they kick and scream until we break it all, is that fair?
Sure men have issues to but I assure you women have all those flaws too, in addition to the above.

I'm sorry to hear about your personal problems, you must really be hurting inside. I sure hope someday you get better and rejoin society.

Women: While they are indeed deeply confusing due to the game they play and their common trait of not really being into nice guys, I am in no way mad at them.

As for women they get estrogen, and it makes them very sympathetic, and loving. This often leads to heartbreak at a young age (when the boys with the will and skills to approach women are only interested in one thing, or the men are older and again only interested in one thing), which leads to the trust issues I mentioned earlier. Honestly I love how empathetic women are, and it's worth breaking through the natural barriers they put up to get close to them.

What?

Ladies: Picture how you feel when you're ovulating, you know, when you're really horny before your period. Now picture that shit all the time, that's being a guy, and fuck our lives for how distracting it is.

I don't know what you're talking about, sorry. What the hell.

The generalizations in this thread are starting to get really weird.

 

[Brad Calkins]

I'm sorry to hear about your personal problems, you must really be hurting inside. I sure hope someday you get better and rejoin society.

Please you think I'd want to, your society is so degenerate I'm surprised it exists at all. You marginalize for the sake of marginalizing, the media is composed of fearmongers, and every argument is invariably skewed in one direction based entirely on outdated information. Stephen Colbert is one of the bes sources of information out there, that says a lot. Why would I want to join a society that takes ad homenom as an argument over facts. The fact of the matter is that everything society does is either stupid, disgusting or both. At least you're getting better, but you still have a long way to go.

 

[Brad Calkins]

Sounds like you need to move outta the damn bible belt, son. Over here on the left coast, we've got men mooching off women, women mooching off men, and surgery to switch you from one to the other with a little work.

...seriously, I know no fewer than 6 house-husbands. Our society is in the middle of kicking a religion habit, these things happen.

I live in Edmonton, Alberta.

 

[asacatman]

At first I was thinking 'gender wars' as in women's rights, but with guns.
However, it's more of a 'red rover, red rover, I call bitter, lonely, misanthropist over'.
I don't care about your love life. Hell, I don't even care about mine. If the people around you are representations of Spike or Cosmo, then stop doing whatever is making you suck so much. Hakuna Matata, don't worry be happy, blah, blah, this is an internet forum, not Dr. Phil. I've got no time for this, I'm too busy eating microwavable dinners, punching things and watching NASCAR.

I know, I know. The people around me are nice, because they are the people I keep around me. Unfortunately, I find myself unable to ignore sh**ty people or simple stupidity.

Sorry, this is totally unrelated to the thread at hand, but...why do you censor yourself? Because every time I see sh**ty I think in my head shitty, and I'm pretty sure that's what you thought when you typed it too. So, er, why?

I agree, gender wars are stupid and based on meaningless generalizations... there, don't shout at me.

 

[Doclector]

At first I was thinking 'gender wars' as in women's rights, but with guns.
However, it's more of a 'red rover, red rover, I call bitter, lonely, misanthropist over'.
I don't care about your love life. Hell, I don't even care about mine. If the people around you are representations of Spike or Cosmo, then stop doing whatever is making you suck so much. Hakuna Matata, don't worry be happy, blah, blah, this is an internet forum, not Dr. Phil. I've got no time for this, I'm too busy eating microwavable dinners, punching things and watching NASCAR.

I know, I know. The people around me are nice, because they are the people I keep around me. Unfortunately, I find myself unable to ignore sh**ty people or simple stupidity.

Sorry, this is totally unrelated to the thread at hand, but...why do you censor yourself? Because every time I see sh**ty I think in my head shitty, and I'm pretty sure that's what you thought when you typed it too. So, er, why?

I agree, gender wars are stupid and based on meaningless generalizations... there, don't shout at me.

Because I just know the moment I stop doing that the mods are gonna crack down on uncensored swearing.

That, and although I'm pretty sure most adult people aren't shockingly offended by it, some people might be.

 

[Chemical Alia]

I'm sorry to hear about your personal problems, you must really be hurting inside. I sure hope someday you get better and rejoin society.

Please you think I'd want to, your society is so degenerate I'm surprised it exists at all. You marginalize for the sake of marginalizing, the media is composed of fearmongers, and every argument is invariably skewed in one direction based entirely on outdated information. Stephen Colbert is one of the bes sources of information out there, that says a lot. Why would I want to join a society that takes ad homenom as an argument over facts. The fact of the matter is that everything society does is either stupid, disgusting or both. At least you're getting better, but you still have a long way to go.

Please go on. This is all very informative.

 

[Brad Calkins]

Ah, no. Pointing at your mom is not a very solid argument against women. It just sounds like you have issues with your mom and are projecting them on all women. It's ridiculous.

But is it not the mother's responsiblity to ensure that her offspring grow up with a halthy a view of women.

 

[Brad Calkins]

Please go on. This is all very informative.

What are you a psychiatrist, alright here it goes. You know how often I've heard anything intelligent coming from your 'society', never. Not once. I once called the whole argument on child-rearing black and white thinking, and do you know what the only feed bak I got on it was.

What does colour have to do with anything. People like you should never have been born.

No, I did not make that up, that was the first response. I rarely get one any better than that. Everyone thinks that quoting classical literature is an actual point. BULL-SHIT. I very well know that 90% of you have never read half the books you seem to think prove your point and even if you did it still doesn't matter. Ray Bradbury thought his book Fahrenheit 451 was the logical continuation of the invention of television, but it's been 60 years and books are still legal, what does that tell you. And don't come to me with that whole "it's about censorship" crap, it's not, bradbury stated so numerous times yet no one believed him. Then they "corrected" and told him he was mistaken about his own book. Does that seem reasonable to you.

 

[Brad Calkins]

Are you a blob of flesh with no agency of your own? No? Then it's your responsibility to correct your own views.

When people insist on proving me right?

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Holy shit this thread took a hard left turn into crazy, didn't it? This is amazing.

As for the rest of it, what's with all the overstated misanthropy? Misanthropy isn't cool, guys. It's incredibly fucking boring.

 

[Brad Calkins]

They don't. In all liklihood it's your own fault for your inability to see past your biases. That you even tried to use your mother, a single woman, as some kind of convincing example hints at issues with your ability to form an unbiased assessment.

At least I gave something other than my thesis. Your whole argument is based on the presumption that you are inherently infallible.